2025-26 Roster Standing Thread

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RedlessWardrobe said:

3Cats4CAL said:

If he did decide to come back to Cal he would be heralded as our saviour and Madsen would surely showcase him first and foremost like he did with Jaylon.
As usual, if he leaves it's easier to deal with if he doesn't join a team in the ACC.

Bring him back to the Haas floor, please, for heckling purposes. If we agree to pay Andrej after this BS dance he's put us through that would be the final straw of lost pride for me, instant season ticket cancellation.
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barsad said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

3Cats4CAL said:

If he did decide to come back to Cal he would be heralded as our saviour and Madsen would surely showcase him first and foremost like he did with Jaylon.
As usual, if he leaves it's easier to deal with if he doesn't join a team in the ACC.

Bring him back to the Haas floor, please, for heckling purposes. If we agree to pay Andrej after this BS dance he's put us through that would be the final straw of lost pride for me, instant season ticket cancellation.
Well the way things go down now, ANYTHING is possible. My guess is if he came back, you just might have second thoughts on cancelling your tickets. All the crap that goes on now can easily mess with our emotions as fans.
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Just confirming with the others tracking this… we only have four players from last year's roster remaining after Mahoney and Curtis got sucked into the portal.
DeJuan (DJ) Campbell
Rytis Petraitis
Vladimir Pavlovic
Lee Dort

3 scholarships available by my count.
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barsad said:

Just confirming with the others tracking this… we only have four players from last year's roster remaining after Mahoney and Curtis got sucked into the portal.
DeJuan (DJ) Campbell
Rytis Petraitis
Vladimir Pavlovic
Lee Dort

3 scholarships available by my count.
Seems to me that Pavlovic will always be remembered as the guy we got, the guy that was going to be gone, and ultimately the guy who stayed but never played a significant minute
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RedlessWardrobe said:

barsad said:

Just confirming with the others tracking this… we only have four players from last year's roster remaining after Mahoney and Curtis got sucked into the portal.
DeJuan (DJ) Campbell
Rytis Petraitis
Vladimir Pavlovic
Lee Dort

3 scholarships available by my count.
Seems to me that Pavlovic will always be remembered as the guy we got, the guy that was going to be gone, and ultimately the guy who stayed but never played a significant minute

I thought Pavlovic was in the transfer portal. I guess I was wrong thinking that.
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He might be. It feels like this guy's status changes once an hour.
barsad
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The Mad Montenegrin is staying, nothing on the Internet about entering the portal.
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ryan forrest is the staff's number one target right now. He would fit into Stojakovic's role.

If you watch his tape, he's the best slasher we've had in a while and although his shooting percentages don't look great, he takes really hard shots that Madsen will cut out.

I would project him at 17 points per game with a 38% 3 point percentage (assuming Madsen helps him with shot selection on 3's that he helped Omot a lot with).

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I don't see how he would be useful. According to ESPN he shot 25% from 3 (slightly lower than claimed here). If you want to say he took bad shots than why did he shoot 64% from the line? The easiest answer is that he is a bad shooter.

We do not know where Omot would have ended up because he barely played. But Blacksher, Campbell, Petraitis, and JOJ came way down as three point shooters under Madsen. Even Stojakovic sightly declined. You think Forrest will go up two levels in competition and increase by 13%? I say he will shoot 25% and score 12 points per game.

One advantage is that his team went 7-25 last year. He should be comfortable with losing a lot.
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This may mean nothing.....so FWIW

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Johnfox said:

ryan forrest is the staff's number one target right now. He would fit into Stojakovic's role.

If you watch his tape, he's the best slasher we've had in a while and although his shooting percentages don't look great, he takes really hard shots that Madsen will cut out.

I would project him at 17 points per game with a 38% 3 point percentage (assuming Madsen helps him with shot selection on 3's that he helped Omot a lot with).


I really hope the staff can do a lot better than Forrest in replacing Stojakovic. His percentages are awful in a vacuum...the fact that they're so terrible despite playing in a very bad league is a red flag to say the least.

Advanced stats also hate his defense. Evan Miya has him at -1.59 BPR last year (yes, that's a negative)...with an OBPR of -0.35 and a DBPR of -1.24

In terms of his performance against P4 competition last year, he only played 11 minutes against Wake Forest. In the two full games against P4 competition he played, he shot 23.1% against Virginia Tech and 28.6% against Arkansas.

Sorry but this would be a dreadful addition as an Andrej replacement. I'd sincerely hope that the NIL $ we had allocated to Andrej could get us a much higher quality player than this.
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sluggo said:

I don't see how he would be useful. According to ESPN he shot 25% from 3 (slightly lower than claimed here). If you want to say he took bad shots than why did he shoot 64% from the line? The easiest answer is that he is a bad shooter.

We do not know where Omot would have ended up because he barely played. But Blacksher, Campbell, Petraitis, and JOJ came way down as three point shooters under Madsen. Even Stojakovic sightly declined. You think Forrest will go up two levels in competition and increase by 13%? I say he will shoot 25% and score 12 points per game.

One advantage is that his team went 7-25 last year. He should be comfortable with losing a lot.

Yeah, Forrest looks like he'd be Don Coleman 2.0

An awful shooter who scores based purely on volume, and offers nothing else in his game

I'd be extraordinarily disappointed if this is the best the staff can do with Andrej's NIL $
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Doubt it could be Mahany- now visiting Florida and Santa Barbara- no scheduled revisits to Cal and sounds highly unlikely with Andreij - may be choosing Illinois???
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Jabri Abdur-Rahim? Sean Stewart? Let's get them legacies.
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Johnfox said:

ryan forrest is the staff's number one target right now. He would fit into Stojakovic's role.

If you watch his tape, he's the best slasher we've had in a while and although his shooting percentages don't look great, he takes really hard shots that Madsen will cut out.

I would project him at 17 points per game with a 38% 3 point percentage (assuming Madsen helps him with shot selection on 3's that he helped Omot a lot with).


Omot played in 4 games. That is not statistically significant. Even then, he improved by 6 percentage points. Jalen Cone became an absolute chucker under Madsen and his FG percentages crashed. Blacksher also took worse shots. I would say that defense and shot selection have been the absolute weakest features of Madsen's teams. Nobody on the entire team shot close to 38% from 3. I don't see how you think a 25% 3pt shooter is going to improve 13 percentage points moving up a level. If Madsen had that kind of secret sauce, we'd be finishing in the top of the conference.
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I care much more about getting a good player who will fit in with the others than the closest available replacement for Stojakovic.
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Hard pass. Not likely what we need.
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Chris Bell makes the 2,781-mile move within the conference from Syracuse NY to Berkeley CA. Pretty standard, really.



Highlight reels here and here.



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brevity said:

Chris Bell makes the 2,781-mile move within the conference from Syracuse NY to Berkeley CA. Pretty standard, really.


he is from Concord in the Bay Area
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Welcome home, Chris! Looks like you will be a big help to our team this year!!
RedlessWardrobe
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Great news! A starter for sure. Let's hope we get guards that can penetrate and dish. If we get that Chris will light it up!
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HoopDreams said:

brevity said:

Chris Bell makes the 2,781-mile move within the conference from Syracuse NY to Berkeley CA. Pretty standard, really.


he is from Concord in the Bay Area


Went to De La Salle. The highlight clips look great, I love that he can shoot the three and can drive and finish. He was a starter as a freshman and sophomore then lost his starting role midway through last season. His advanced stats are a bit perplexing (below average) given his scoring efficiency. The issues appear to be low rebounds, low assists, too many turnovers and poor defense. All of which he can hopefully improve. All in all a good addition with high upside.

I am looking forward to our being a good three point shooting team. Last year we were #356 in 3 pt % and #311 in 3 pt % defense.
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Back to the whole roster, I now guess:
PG. Ames/Carr
SG. Pippen/Ruff/Campbell
SF and PF. 2 of Petraitis/Camden/Bell
C. Dort/Ilic
wildcard SG/SF. Dorsey
wildcard PF/C. Yeanay
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stu said:

Back to the whole roster, I now guess:
PG. Ames/Carr
SG. Pippen/Ruff/Campbell
SF and PF. 2 of Petraitis/Camden/Bell
C. Dort/Ilic
wildcard SG/SF. Dorsey
wildcard PF/C. Yeanay



This lineup would actually be pretty interesting if we still had Stojakovic. Without him…yikes, it might be a long year.

This roster completely lacks top-end talent.
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There's almost nothing good about a full roster churn every year, with one exception. I like that every starting spot is competitive, nobody on the roster comes in thinking they're entitled to something (ahem, Andrej). Instead they will have to battle hard in practice, show their worth to Madsen. I imagine in the first two weeks of practice the starting 5 will rise to the surface quickly. Doubtful a frosh like Carr is ready for PG, and I think Dort is not up to the starting big man role, but every guy deserves a shot.
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barsad said:

There's almost nothing good about a full roster churn every year, with one exception. I like that every starting spot is competitive, nobody on the roster comes in thinking they're entitled to something (ahem, Andrej). Instead they will have to battle hard in practice, show their worth to Madsen. I imagine in the first two weeks of practice the starting 5 will rise to the surface quickly. Doubtful a frosh like Carr is ready for PG, and I think Dort is not up to the starting big man role, but every guy deserves a shot.
Again on Dort. There's still a couple of spots left to upgrade the center position But as of right now, what we're starting with is too soft (unless the GC transfer emerges quickly), to not have Lee out there.
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Gotta think right now we start with:

Ames
SG? Several candidates
Bell
Camden
Dort

6th man - Petraitis
barsad
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Gotta think right now we start with:

Ames
SG? Several candidates
Bell
Camden
Dort

6th man - Petraitis


Why Dort ahead of Ilic?
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barsad said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

Gotta think right now we start with:

Ames
SG? Several candidates
Bell
Camden
Dort

6th man - Petraitis


Why Dort ahead of Ilic?
Barsad, the reason for choosing Dort is that if Camden is at the 4, at least on offense he quite often steps out for the three point shot. Couple that with three smaller players, I think Dort's physicality is needed to keeps us from getting run over. I'm just basing that on reports that Ilic is not a real physical player.
Of course, there's still time for MM to find a diamond in the rough to play center.
barsad
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I hear what you're saying about physicality, Red, and I agree Dort is top 10% on that. But I would trade some physicality for good hands, good rebounding, and reliable scoring within 3 feet of the hoop. I think Ilic will show he has more of that than Dort does. They should probably split minutes depending on the other team's size, game situations, etc, maybe even share the floor in some instances. This will be where Madsen makes his money, figuring out a good strategy at the 5 (and he's got to do better than he did last year).
I do not share your optimism that there are any big men of worth left, but I hope I'm wrong and there's some JuCo gem that comes from nowhere.
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Not really optimistic about MM finding a better center, just hopeful that he gets lucky and stumbles into one.

And if Ilic is more productive than Dort then give him more minutes. If Yeanay makes progress and is on the court more often then we add some physicality right there.
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RedlessWardrobe said:

If Yeanay makes progress and is on the court more often then we add some physicality right there.
Yes.

The writeup on 247 makes me..........hopeful.
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This year they are sending out a Memory Tips pdf with the season tickets to assist older Old Blues with the annual roster memorization task.

https://www.bu.edu/hospitality/files/2018/05/Seven_Tricks_to_Remembering_Names.pdf

*The team formerly known as the Oakland A's has been doing this for years.
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bearister said:

This year they are sending out a Memory Tips pdf with the season tickets to assist older Old Blues with the annual roster memorization task.

https://www.bu.edu/hospitality/files/2018/05/Seven_Tricks_to_Remembering_Names.pdf

*The team formerly known as the Oakland A's has been doing this for years.


Be prepared for mis spelling.

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bearister said:

This year they are sending out a Memory Tips pdf with the season tickets to assist older Old Blues with the annual roster memorization task.

https://www.bu.edu/hospitality/files/2018/05/Seven_Tricks_to_Remembering_Names.pdf

*The team formerly known as the Oakland A's has been doing this for years.
Two seasons ago Cal MBB was easy on the memory. You just needed to say "Jaylon" and there was a great chance you were correct.
 
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