DrDanger;842298723 said:

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Again...let me reiterate: Larry Krystkowiak.

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Sounds good to me. You say he'd be "more than interested". What makes you say that?

Moreland Smith

Excellence

DrDanger;842298723 said:

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Again...let me reiterate: Larry Krystkowiak.

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I know we're not exactly Cal State Northridge, but what would be the big draw for him here? Utah can pay him well and they're building new bball facilities as well as updating the always packed Hunstman Center. Does he want to be in Ca that badly?

I personally would love him.

PappyVW65;842298726 said:

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Moreland Smith

Excellence

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Great.

Carter Blanchard or Ty Keenan.

Norman Dale would be good too.

Lets just say I hope he is in the mix.
Nothing would surprise me.

I think we need to consider a different model. Former player with pro experience and be ok they do not arrive with much coaching experience. Another name to think about would be Shareef. He has a degree, no off court baggage, and also highly regarded by many of the area coaches involved with the recruits we need to start getting.

smokeyrover;842298729 said:

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Great.

Carter Blanchard or Ty Keenan.

Norman Dale would be good too.

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It's a proven fact: big time recruits want to play for Norman Dale.

BC Calfan;842298573 said:

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Jay wright - remember hearing he was interested before Monty. I think his sister lives here, married to frank Somerville?

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Yes, she lives in Oakland.

Was Wright really rumored to be interested in Cal last time around?

It's a horrible area to recruit. Ask Creighton....or Kansas.....or Iowa State.

I'm giving you a hard time but you get the idea. Miles can go down to KC or St. Louis or Chicago or Texas just like any other coach in the Midwest. He came from Colorado State, after all. If you look at the current Husker team, it's about half Nebraska kids, 2 imports from out of the US, and a mix of young men from places like Wisconsin, Arkansas, Kansas, and Texas.

The B1G is brutal, but so is the new "Big East". So is the Pac 12.

And, he's already well paid.

I like Miles, though. Really good Coach and I think he'd be a good fit at Cal. However, If we are going after a Nebraska Coach, make a run at Greg McDermott. With the graduation of his son, Dougie McBuckets, his team is sure to take a step back next year. He's well paid by Creighton, so that may be an issue for Cal, but he can coach at least as well as Dana Altman could.

GB54;842298688 said:

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Charles would put people in the seats

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No kidding! He'd add a little excitment to a program that could use it. Might be a pretty attractive recruiter too!

antipattern;842298722 said:

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Somewhere between 75 and 90% of the names listed in this thread would never come here. Tommy Amaker just turned down Wake Forest. Shaka Smart has turned down everybody there is in the last two years (which may have been a mistake on his part, but he still has lots of options). Sluggo pointed out that his list is unrealistic, is that what's going on for everyone? Just spit-balling names that you'd like to see regardless of reality? Well, in case you believe what you're saying, let me just say that Archie Miller is not coming to Cal. He's one of the hottest young names around, and will hold out for an offer at a blue-blood program. Fred Hoiberg? Puh-lease!

And yet when some one who isn't Archie Miller or Fred Hoiberg or Gregg Marshall gets hired, a lot of you same people are going to bitch and moan that Sandy should be fired for not hiring some one who was never going to come here. It makes it tough to take those kind of criticisms seriously.

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Agree...a lot of flailing around right now with the flavors of the month hot off the press.

I'm on record at wanting DeCuire to get a chance. But I can understand arguments against.

One name that hasn't been mentioned is Russ Turner at U.C. Irvine. Former Monty asst at Furd and Warriors, so the system would be very similar -- you get the continuity aspect that DeCuire would bring, but Turner has more experience as a head coach.

Double ditto - who could have confidence in Barbour after the Dykes/Buh disaster...

she's got a chance to get it right this time.


Buh is available. already have him under contract.

Go Sandy go.............

Go bears!

drdanger;842298529 said:

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1. Played for monty.
2. Pac 12 experience as a hc. Also coached at montana.
3. Imo was coach of the year with what he did at utah after last year.
4. Is not a mormon.
5. Nba experience as a 10 year player. Still young enough to relate.
6. He would be more than interested in the job....

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Cal Panda Bear;842298555 said:

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Not ready yet to be a HC IMO.

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I have no opinion on this - but I am curious what you base your opinion on.

grandmastapoop;842298765 said:

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I have no opinion on this - but I am curious what you base your opinion on.

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If you look at DeCuire's resume, it consists of:

High School Head Coach
Community College Head Coach for two years
Five years as an assistant coach at a decent mid-major
Six years as an assistant coach at a decent major conference school

I would hope this program could find a candidate with a stronger resume than that.

This guy is young but he is a riser and is headed for a major D-I job, should Cal take a chance?

Jamion Christian of Mount St. Mary's

http://www.mountathletics.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/index

HKBear97;842298777 said:

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If you look at DeCuire's resume, it consists of:

High School Head Coach
Community College Head Coach for two years
Five years as an assistant coach at a decent mid-major
Six years as an assistant coach at a decent major conference school

I would hope this program could find a candidate with a stronger resume than that.

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We're a school with mediocre administrative support, mediocre alumni and student support, and mediocre facilities. No established head coach, like those on the earlier list, is going to leave their current job to come here. Therefore, the next coach will be one of the coaches fired from their current job, someone toiling in obscurity, like the UC Irvine coach, or an assistant. I actually think Dennis Gates would be a good choice, as he was a defensive specialist, and is young enough to relate to players.

My biggest fear is that the retirement is going to result in a wave of transfers, requiring the program to be completely rebuilt from the ground floor.

I think T.D. is not a bad option but if that wasn't on the table then I would tap into the Pitino-Donovan coaching tree

Jeff82;842298793 said:

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We're a school with mediocre administrative support, mediocre alumni and student support, and mediocre facilities. No established head coach, like those on the earlier list, is going to leave their current job to come here. Therefore, the next coach will be one of the coaches fired from their current job, someone toiling in obscurity, like the UC Irvine coach, or an assistant. I actually think Dennis Gates would be a good choice, as he was a defensive specialist, and is young enough to relate to players.

My biggest fear is that the retirement is going to result in a wave of transfers, requiring the program to be completely rebuilt from the ground floor.

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I disagree with the statement that we have mediocre administrative support, mediocore alumni and student support, and mediocre facilities. History has shown if we can hire the right coaching staff, we can succeed. Look at what Coach Tedford's success did - we had record attendance and were able to massively upgrade our facilities. I don't know this for certain, but I believe Dykes noted support from the administration for the changes on the academic side he is pushing for. It can be done. Have some faith!

SoFlaBear;842298609 said:

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If all else failed, get Seth Greenberg from ESPN -- but I like this list.

Miles won't come. Nebraska's program is rising, and he just got a stunning new arena.

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Jerod Haase, anyone? 18-13 this year at UAB with an upset over UNC. Plus, coaching stints at UNC and Kansas. Inherited a 15-16 team and has them now at 18-13 in two years. Not great but certainly not bad either.

Jeff82;842298793 said:

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We're a school with mediocre administrative support, mediocre alumni and student support, and mediocre facilities. No established head coach, like those on the earlier list, is going to leave their current job to come here. Therefore, the next coach will be one of the coaches fired from their current job, someone toiling in obscurity, like the UC Irvine coach, or an assistant. I actually think Dennis Gates would be a good choice, as he was a defensive specialist, and is young enough to relate to players.

My biggest fear is that the retirement is going to result in a wave of transfers, requiring the program to be completely rebuilt from the ground floor.

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But we are an established program in a major conference which means we are still on the way up for mid major head coaches. We don't have to take people without significant head coach experience.

TheSouseFamily;842298825 said:

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Jerod Haase, anyone? 18-13 this year at UAB with an upset over UNC. Plus, coaching stints at UNC and Kansas. Inherited a 15-16 team and has them now at 18-13 in two years. Not great but certainly not bad either.

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He bailed on Cal. I know about the whole Bozeman thing, but he bailed. I'd even go for Rex Walters over him.

Amaker from Harvard is not coming as his wife also holds a very high position at Harvard. I like Howland.

socaltownie;842298557 said:

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You are showing your youth. He struggled at UCLA - in large part because 5 stars will NOT - in all but the rarest circumstances - buy into a system that demands in your face defensive on ball pressure. But at Pitt his teams were amazing to watch. They played with a huge amount of intensity on the defensive side of the rock and just frustrated the "crap" out of teams.

Again, the unknowable (by us) is how Ben is seen by the audience that matters - recruits, players, AAU types. If he is damaged, move on. If he is not, then I think you simply have to make a call to feel him out and talk about stuff.

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Please, no! With Howland at Cal we would have Montgomery's recruiting and player unhappiness (all worse actually) combined with Braun's stagnant offense.

calumnus;842298848 said:

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Please, no! With Howland at Cal we would have Montgomery's recruiting and player unhappiness (all worse actually) combined with Braun's stagnant offense.

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In all fairness to Howland, I think he thrust himself into a pretty bad situation at UCLA. The expectation of the type of players he was supposed to recruit and cater to were 180 degrees from what got him there. As he moved through his tenure there he got further from the way he wanted to do things and as a result lost his focus and the support of his players and a very difficult fan base. I don't really like his (Pitt) brand of basketball, but I think it would be much more successful at Cal than what people observed at UCLA.

CALiforniALUM;842298849 said:

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In all fairness to Howland, I think he thrust himself into a pretty bad situation at UCLA. The expectation of the type of players he was supposed to recruit and cater to were 180 degrees from what got him there. As he moved through his tenure there he got further from the way he wanted to do things and as a result lost his focus and the support of his players and a very difficult fan base. I don't really like his (Pitt) brand of basketball, but I think it would be much more successful at Cal than what people observed at UCLA.

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His Pitt brand of basketball would be a horrible fit for Cal (plus look at our roster next year--you really think we are going to play Big East bang inside basketball?).

The rules have changed since his Pitt days and Pac-12 refs have always called it tighter than the Big East. Morevoer, fouls that were not called on UCLA would be called on Cal. Bank on it.

Bill Walton on Ben Howland basketball:

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Walton: "Do they look like they're having a good time? Are they playing great basketball? Are they selling tickets? Is this an atmosphere that you would say, 'Yeah.' This looks like people are getting ready to go to the dentist."

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He would be a horrible recruiter at Cal.

Our current roster does not fit his brand of basketball (neither does the Pac-12 or the current rules).

Moreover, we would play boring basketball.

Haas would be empty.

His personality would not improve. At least Braun could recruit and be charming. At least Monty could coach.

Please, no more talk of Howland.

californialum;842298849 said:

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in all fairness to howland, i think he thrust himself into a pretty bad situation at ucla. The expectation of the type of players he was supposed to recruit and cater to were 180 degrees from what got him there. As he moved through his tenure there he got further from the way he wanted to do things and as a result lost his focus and the support of his players and a very difficult fan base. I don't really like his (pitt) brand of basketball, but i think it would be much more successful at cal than what people observed at ucla.

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boring!

tsubamoto2001;842298830 said:

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He bailed on Cal. I know about the whole Bozeman thing, but he bailed. I'd even go for Rex Walters over him.

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Ridiculous. If you were working at a company and knew that the boss was doing something illegal that would have ramifications on the company and everyone working there, no one would hold it against you for "bailing". You'd probably be praised for your integrity.

I don't know much about coaches across the country. I'll throw some random names out however:
Danny Manning-Tulsa
Steve Wojciechowski-Duke
Bob Williams-SB
CCSF coach
Would say Larry K but I don't think anyone leaves a PAC 12 job to take over the Bears

grandmastapoop;842298856 said:

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Ridiculous. If you were working at a company and knew that the boss was doing something illegal that would have ramifications on the company and everyone working there, no one would hold it against you for "bailing". You'd probably be praised for your integrity.

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I don't think that is why he bailed, and I seem to remember him somewhat dissing Berkeley in the process (or saying he wasn't comfortable here?), but if we think he would be a good coach and he wants to come then what happened 20 years ago when he was a teenager and circumstances were different should not be a factor.

89Bear;842298859 said:

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Would say Larry K but I don't think anyone leaves a PAC 12 job to take over the Bears

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The latest info though suggests both Tad and Larry would make significant more bank if they took the job. Larry would need a housing allowance. Tad is coming from Boulder which isn't Bay Area ridiculous but isn't Ogden cheap. I am at least calling both those guys and feeling them out - Tad more so because he has shown the ability to recruit well.

calumnus;842298860 said:

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I don't think that is why he bailed, and I seem to remember him somewhat dissing Berkeley in the process (or saying he wasn't comfortable here?), but if we think he would be a good coach and he wants to come then what happened 20 years ago when he was a teenager and circumstances were different should not be a factor.

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He came to Cal primarily because his dad went to Cal. His dad passed away suddenly during Jarrod's freshman year. The reasons he chose Cal changed.
He didn't like Berkeley much coming from South lake Tahoe, and the Bozeman fiasco and all the crap didn't sit well with him.

Haase left for good reasons. I doubt he would be interested in the job. He has been an assistant at Kansas and UNC. I think he''ll wait for a higher profile job.

Just read that Musselman is in the final 2 for the South Florida job. I hope he does not get it. I want him at Cal.

Sluggo

smokeyrover;842298747 said:

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Agree...a lot of flailing around right now with the flavors of the month hot off the press.

I'm on record at wanting DeCuire to get a chance. But I can understand arguments against.

One name that hasn't been mentioned is Russ Turner at U.C. Irvine. Former Monty asst at Furd and Warriors, so the system would be very similar -- you get the continuity aspect that DeCuire would bring, but Turner has more experience as a head coach.

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I didn't see the UC Irvine game when they were here. What was your impression of Turner? He has had back to back good seasons at UC Irvine

http://ucirvinesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/coaches/index