UCLA vs Kentucky

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concordtom
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bar20;842427183 said:

Kentucky is illegitimate! :p


Reminds me of that time at the big game at furd when we were losing at the end and someone for Cal hacked into the PA system late in the game, a blowout, and said something like, "penalty on Stanford, unsportsmanlike arrogance." then there was something else, and it made all us cal fans brighten up. Hilarious. Then our drunk male students evaded their security by running down to the Stanford section, poured onto the field and tore the tree to shreds. It was glorious! And perhaps 1999.
CalBearsWinNC
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Everyone's laughing at UCLA, UK would beat us just as bad.
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CalBearsWinNC;842427193 said:

Everyone's laughing at UCLA, UK would beat us just as bad.

You think we'd go 3 for 37? i don't. Even Columbia didn't look this bad vs UK lol. Imagine what Columbia would do to UCLA..
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Halftime score 41 - 7. UK.

Jesus. Kentucky is much better than UCLA but they shouldn't be THAT much better.
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MinotStateBeav;842427195 said:

You think we'd go 3 for 37? i don't. Even Columbia didn't look this bad vs UK lol. Imagine what Columbia would do to UCLA..


Yeah, I'm sure they'd beat us, but it wouldn't be such a complete embarrassment as this. Coach Martin wouldn't stand for that.
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MinotStateBeav;842427195 said:

You think we'd go 3 for 37? i don't. Even Columbia didn't look this bad vs UK lol. Imagine what Columbia would do to UCLA..


With our lack of scoring yes.
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If we don't beat ucla we're sad
chazzed
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Geez, just enjoy the baby bears getting beat down (which could make us more attractive to recruits) for now. Plenty of other threads here for decrying our team's weaknesses.
concordtom
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Antoine Walker: "I know I wouldn't want to go someplace with 9 or 10 other all-americans. I'd want to go somewhere where I could get lots of playing time."
24-67 with 8:20 to go.
Kentucky's defense has sucked this half!
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concordtom;842427191 said:

Reminds me of that time at the big game at furd when we were losing at the end and someone for Cal hacked into the PA system late in the game, a blowout, and said something like, "penalty on Stanford, unsportsmanlike arrogance." then there was something else, and it made all us cal fans brighten up. Hilarious. Then our drunk male students evaded their security by running down to the Stanford section, poured onto the field and tore the tree to shreds. It was glorious! And perhaps 1999.


I know the "Excessive Arrogance Guy". A couple of Big Games earlier some guys tossed him in the trunk of my car and he was in there for 15-20 minutes. I'm convinced that's when he came up with his "plan".
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a) Glorious to see this
B) REALLY bad for the health of college basketball. However it is what it is. Until the NBA/NCAA decide to do something about one and dones this will occur at Kentucky on a regular basis. I am not sure it could/would go one at other places but the lack of
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BearDevil;842427220 said:

I know the "Excessive Arrogance Guy". A couple of Big Games earlier some guys tossed him in the trunk of my car and he was in there for 15-20 minutes. I'm convinced that's when he came up with his "plan".


Oh my god! Are you serious?
You gotta get him on here to tell his story!
That is my second favorite Cal football moment, obviously behind The Play.
concordtom
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Wow, Alford has a stroke!
Beware!
concordtom
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And he just hit another 3?
I think that's 4 triples for him!
concordtom
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socaltownie;842427223 said:

a) Glorious to see this
B) REALLY bad for the health of college basketball. However it is what it is. Until the NBA/NCAA decide to do something about one and dones this will occur at Kentucky on a regular basis. I am not sure it could/would go one at other places but the lack of


Jeez, go ahead and blow it up.
The kids should be paid, so this is already distorted from the get go.
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Cal88;842427140 said:

UCLA's cheerleader squad is unusually hot this year.




You'd have to try to not end up with at least one Asian girl on the UCLA squad. Strange. That's about as representative of the school as the FB team I suppose.
concordtom
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Kentucky is 12-25 from 3.
I thought they were all about size.
What a joke.

Lee is 3-6 from the line, 1-1 FG, with 6 boards. Clearly not quite as good as Cauley-stein, towns, or lyles. Though, that is not an insult, considering the draft order of those 3.
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socaliganbear;842427230 said:

You'd have to try to not end up with at least one Asian girl on the UCLA squad. Strange. That's about as representative of the school as the FB team I suppose.


Black athletes, white cheerleaders, Asian academics?
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Final score:
UCLA: 44
NBA farm team: 83
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socaltownie;842427223 said:

a) Glorious to see this
B) REALLY bad for the health of college basketball. However it is what it is. Until the NBA/NCAA decide to do something about one and dones this will occur at Kentucky on a regular basis. I am not sure it could/would go one at other places but the lack of


Simple, take the top 200 recruits and have a draft just like they do n the NBA. It isn't healthy for college BB to let a team like Kentucky monopolize all the great HS players.
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concordtom;842427224 said:

Oh my god! Are you serious?
You gotta get him on here to tell his story!
That is my second favorite Cal football moment, obviously behind The Play.


Lost track of him, but a few of the guys I'm going to the Wisconsin game with probably know his current whereabouts. My favorite part of the story is the assumed name he used. He "named" himself after a guy who knocked somebody up in in the South more than a century ago, fled to Berkeley, and ended up founding a fraternity chapter.
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Wow, it was a national spanking that was administered.
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fallcamp;842427242 said:

Wow, it was a national spanking that was administered.


Couldn't have happened to a more deserving fanbase.
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Not a good sign when you have more claps than points in a half.
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CalBearsWinNC;842427190 said:

The 3 I named are the only ones that have a chance to win it all.


When Texas gets Ike Taylor back they can hang with those 3.
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Bruins were one td short of winning the second half.

:tedford
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"Outstanding effort" by Ucla...say crap. UK is very beatable, platoon or straight up.
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bar20;842427240 said:

simple, take the top 200 recruits and have a draft just like they do n the nba. It isn't healthy for college bb to let a team like kentucky monopolize all the great hs players.


LMAO. This isn't socialism or communism man. The NCAA isn't LETTING Kentucky do anything. Kids have a choice of where they want to go to school. What is the NCAA supposed to do ? Tell kids we can't let you guys go to Kentucky because we can't let them monopolize all the great players ? The draft thing is a terrible idea, and maybe you didn't mean it, but it was still not very wise to even suggest. Every other high school kid in the country, and I'm not talking about athletes, can choose where they want to go to school, but because you have an issue with Kentucky, then the NCAA shouldn't allow high school basketball players chose where they go to school ? And that makes sense to you ? Really ?
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Does the NBA draft make any more sense??
concordtom
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RealScouting;842427682 said:

LMAO. This isn't socialism or communism man. The NCAA isn't LETTING Kentucky do anything. Kids have a choice of where they want to go to school. What is the NCAA supposed to do ? Tell kids we can't let you guys go to Kentucky because we can't let them monopolize all the great players ? The draft thing is a terrible idea, and maybe you didn't mean it, but it was still not very wise to even suggest. Every other high school kid in the country, and I'm not talking about athletes, can choose where they want to go to school, but because you have an issue with Kentucky, then the NCAA shouldn't allow high school basketball players chose where they go to school ? And that makes sense to you ? Really ?

It's not Kentucky or calipari that anyone has a problem with as much as the notion that talent aggregates to disrupt the competitive balance. It is the natural desire for all to want to win, and so you always see it happen. Look at what wade, lebron, and ? Did to the nba in Miami? A lot of people had a problem with that, lebron taking a distorted low wage to fit other talent with in an effort to win. The major leagues implement spending caps and revenue sharing and luxury tax schemes to try and equalize franchises. But some factors cannot be leveled: the fact that NYC and LA and better markets for endorsement deals, eg.

The idea proposed would be revolutionary, and you have to accept it as such. Of course, in exchange for going wherever you get drafted, there would have to be something given in return, and that would be a salary. At which point, why ever talk about classes.

Real, get real - don't you think the players assembled now at Kentucky are generating more $ for the university than they are receiving back in form of scholarship $? And here's another interesting question, when Calipari's contract is up for renewal, how much do you think he should get paid? Think about it - he's got the recruiting thing down! If he prices himself on the open market, don't you think he could now bring the same championship caliper rosters to any of the traditionally top 25 basketball schools? How much is that worth a school in terms of increased revenue, both year over year, and spill over into future years as tradition builds up? Let's say he went to a big sports market like Boston that till now lacked an NCAA hoops champion. How much would they love to have the Kentucky roster there?!?! And not have to increase scholarship expenditures by one dime over the current amt... Or for Cal Berkeley, for that matter. How much would Cal pay to have a sold out Haas and an annually undefeated squad? (Never mind, we would not be able to academically qualify all players.)

There is not parity among the 300 plus D1 schools in the NCAA. The current Kentucky situation merely exemplifies that fact in bold, bright lights. Is it any different from John Wooden's UCLA squads of the 60's? Doubt it. How did the rest of the college basketball universe like it when they never lost for a decade? Is that good for the NCAA overall?
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bearmanpg;842427808 said:

Does the NBA draft make any more sense??


Yep. A lot more sense.
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concordtom;842427828 said:

It's not Kentucky or calipari that anyone has a problem with as much as the notion that talent aggregates to disrupt the competitive balance. It is the natural desire for all to want to win, and so you always see it happen. Look at what wade, lebron, and ? Did to the nba in Miami? A lot of people had a problem with that, lebron taking a distorted low wage to fit other talent with in an effort to win. The major leagues implement spending caps and revenue sharing and luxury tax schemes to try and equalize franchises. But some factors cannot be leveled: the fact that NYC and LA and better markets for endorsement deals, eg.

The idea proposed would be revolutionary, and you have to accept it as such. Of course, in exchange for going wherever you get drafted, there would have to be something given in return, and that would be a salary. At which point, why ever talk about classes.

Real, get real - don't you think the players assembled now at Kentucky are generating more $ for the university than they are receiving back in form of scholarship $? And here's another interesting question, when Calipari's contract is up for renewal, how much do you think he should get paid? Think about it - he's got the recruiting thing down! If he prices himself on the open market, don't you think he could now bring the same championship caliper rosters to any of the traditionally top 25 basketball schools? How much is that worth a school in terms of increased revenue, both year over year, and spill over into future years as tradition builds up? Let's say he went to a big sports market like Boston that till now lacked an NCAA hoops champion. How much would they love to have the Kentucky roster there?!?! And not have to increase scholarship expenditures by one dime over the current amt... Or for Cal Berkeley, for that matter. How much would Cal pay to have a sold out Haas and an annually undefeated squad? (Never mind, we would not be able to academically qualify all players.)

There is not parity among the 300 plus D1 schools in the NCAA. The current Kentucky situation merely exemplifies that fact in bold, bright lights. Is it any different from John Wooden's UCLA squads of the 60's? Doubt it. How did the rest of the college basketball universe like it when they never lost for a decade? Is that good for the NCAA overall?


When did the NCAA ever say they were attempting to create parity in college athletics ? That's not their job and you can't take away a kids right kid to go to wherever school they see fit. This is another example of the bitterness of Cal fans and the inferiority complex some of you guys have, because you know damn well if the tables were turned and Cal was competing for National Championships and top ranked classes every year you would feel the same way I feel. Life isn't fair so get over it
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RealScouting;842427847 said:

When did the NCAA ever say they were attempting to create parity in college athletics ? That's not their job and you can't take away a kids right kid to go to wherever school they see fit. This is another example of the bitterness of Cal fans and the inferiority complex some of you guys have, because you know damn well if the tables were turned and Cal was competing for National Championships and top ranked classes every year you would feel the same way I feel. Life isn't fair so get over it


C'mon guys, he's right. To put it in terms that we can all understand; let's say you aced the SAT and had a 4.7 gpa. You were class president, built toilets in Mexico and can speak three languages. Then you get drafted to Kentucky for undergrad.
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concordtom;842427828 said:

It's not Kentucky or calipari that anyone has a problem with as much as the notion that talent aggregates to disrupt the competitive balance. It is the natural desire for all to want to win, and so you always see it happen. Look at what wade, lebron, and ? Did to the nba in Miami? A lot of people had a problem with that, lebron taking a distorted low wage to fit other talent with in an effort to win. The major leagues implement spending caps and revenue sharing and luxury tax schemes to try and equalize franchises. But some factors cannot be leveled: the fact that NYC and LA and better markets for endorsement deals, eg.

The idea proposed would be revolutionary, and you have to accept it as such. Of course, in exchange for going wherever you get drafted, there would have to be something given in return, and that would be a salary. At which point, why ever talk about classes.

Real, get real - don't you think the players assembled now at Kentucky are generating more $ for the university than they are receiving back in form of scholarship $? And here's another interesting question, when Calipari's contract is up for renewal, how much do you think he should get paid? Think about it - he's got the recruiting thing down! If he prices himself on the open market, don't you think he could now bring the same championship caliper rosters to any of the traditionally top 25 basketball schools? How much is that worth a school in terms of increased revenue, both year over year, and spill over into future years as tradition builds up? Let's say he went to a big sports market like Boston that till now lacked an NCAA hoops champion. How much would they love to have the Kentucky roster there?!?! And not have to increase scholarship expenditures by one dime over the current amt... Or for Cal Berkeley, for that matter. How much would Cal pay to have a sold out Haas and an annually undefeated squad? (Never mind, we would not be able to academically qualify all players.)

There is not parity among the 300 plus D1 schools in the NCAA. The current Kentucky situation merely exemplifies that fact in bold, bright lights. Is it any different from John Wooden's UCLA squads of the 60's? Doubt it. How did the rest of the college basketball universe like it when they never lost for a decade? Is that good for the NCAA overall?


The Cal athletic dept would love to have Calipari here, maybe. But I doubt it would be good for the university as a whole. All those millions would mostly go to the athletic department, and not much to anything else, and the ethos of the endeavor would have a negative effect on the university, in my opinion. In any case, I am sure that Calipari does not have us on his "most desired job" list.
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In any event, Martin is looking to be a great fit at Cal.

Even Monty appears to be impressed with him.
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