Musselman staying at UNR

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TheSouseFamily
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tsubamoto2001;842823642 said:

Why Tom Crean? You're just looking at his record, especially at Marquette. He failed at Indiana, which is a hard job to fail at. He usually had really good talent and still couldn't win big there. There's a reason(s) it didn't work out there and it's not because of their fans being nuts. This would like hiring Howland.

He's a no-starter for me. I'd take a chance on even Gates or Pasternack rather than go with a retread.


He's a known commodity with a track record or success at different levels including the Big 10 where was coach of the year last year. What other guy being publicly discussed has a track record of success? Ok fine so he's got a winning % similar to Cuonzo's. Who do you think will do better and what evidence is there if it? Plus, Crean is universally considered a high character guy. Just look at the outpouring of support when he got canned. IU may not have been ok with his 18-16 record last year which was his worst in 10 years there but it comes in the heels of a Big 10 title and plenty of good seasons and tourney appearances before that. That's fine if you're comfortable rolling the dice on an unproven guy but that comes with a huge range of outcomes. We know what we'd get with a guy like Crean (or Howland) and it's a level of success that we don't get to see very often at Cal.

He averaged 23 wins in his last 6 seasons at Indiana. Sign me up for that kind of "failure". I don't see anyone on our list that could replicate that.
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Basketball Bear;842823655 said:

This is Cal spin leaked to a reporter.
I think it is highly likely he was made an offer but the negotiations didn't work out for everything muscleman wanted...money, assistants etc.


Don't think so. Site's sources were consistent throughout despite what other places were reporting.
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Maybe or he is worn out like Tedford
LOUMFSG2
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BTW, Musselman turning us down, and him not being offered aren't necessarily contradictory. We could have been deciding whether or not to offer, and he could have decided to remove himself from consideration, deciding he wasn't interested in the job.
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Basketball Bear;842823655 said:

This is Cal spin leaked to a reporter.
I think it is highly likely he was made an offer but the negotiations didn't work out for everything muscleman wanted...money, assistants etc.


Only Ben and Nevada beat writers were on this rumor. Everyone else on the Cal side was skeptical at best. And what do you know...
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socaliganbear;842823668 said:

Only Ben and Nevada beat writers were on this rumor. Everyone else on the Cal side was skeptical at best. And what do you know...


Yes, I suspect this was leaked from Musselman's camp as a negotiating ploy.
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ducky23;842823582 said:

Hey at least we hired a good football coach. I say we offer Wilcox an extension now, cause its clear we want as few coaching searches in the future as possible.


Agree 110%
Bear19
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This whole thing is a definite fubar by Williams. Everyone is confused, donors angry, a mess.
bluesaxe
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Yeah, I don't get all the Crean love at all. More money for nothing.

tsubamoto2001;842823642 said:

Why Tom Crean? You're just looking at his record, especially at Marquette. He failed at Indiana, which is a hard job to fail at. He usually had really good talent and still couldn't win big there. There's a reason(s) it didn't work out there and it's not because of their fans being nuts. This would like hiring Howland.

He's a no-starter for me. I'd take a chance on even Gates or Pasternack rather than go with a retread.
KoreAmBear
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So what was Jon Wheeler ranting about?

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2017/3/22/15019780/california-golden-bears-eric-musselman-ashwin-puri-mike-williams-athletic-director?utm_content=bufferb8f48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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KoreAmBear;842823693 said:

So what was Jon Wheeler ranting about?

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2017/3/22/15019780/california-golden-bears-eric-musselman-ashwin-puri-mike-williams-athletic-director?utm_content=bufferb8f48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


Not being included, is my guess.
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UrsaMajor;842823585 said:

According to Jon Wheeler, the search process is Mike Williams and Aswin Puri and basically no one else. Basketball alums and donors are being frozen out. Now that could be sour grapes on Wheels part because he's not involved, but it is consistent with how Williams handles himself.


And I hear that the initial pool was essentially Musselman. They did a token telephone interview with Dennis Gates, apparently. If you didn't know he would accept, why would you narrow down the pool? Man, Cal athletics is some kind of dysfunctional.
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socaliganbear;842823694 said:

Not being included, is my guess.


He sounded so sure that Musselman was hired. I guess he was just sure that the committee of 2 offered a candidate pool of one. smh.
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KoreAmBear;842823697 said:

He sounded so sure that Musselman was hired. I guess he was just sure that the committee of 2 offered a candidate pool of one. smh.


Or he was wrong?
joe amos yaks
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Coach Musselman has been good for the Reno business community.
KoreAmBear
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socaliganbear;842823699 said:

Or he was wrong?


Yep. Maybe Mike Williams got this? Nah.
socaliganbear
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KoreAmBear;842823702 said:

Yep. Maybe Mike Williams got this? Nah.


I'm not particularly fond of Williams, but angry ranting guy on radio proven wrong is not in any way a more reliable source. . . Clearly...
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DrDanger;842823545 said:

According to CBS
That tells me he was never offered.


I'm assuming Yanni is fired as soon as the ink is dry on Musselman's extension. Never screw with you boss on social media until he publicly takes the new job.
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socaliganbear;842823668 said:

Only Ben and Nevada beat writers were on this rumor. Everyone else on the Cal side was skeptical at best. And what do you know...



Not exactly. You have Yanni on social media and everyone in the Reno area saying an announcement of Muscleman to Cal was imminent.
socaliganbear
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I don't think Yanni did? Did I miss something?
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socaliganbear;842823711 said:

I don't think Yanni did? Did I miss something?


i read somewhere, on bi thread, that yanni removed his twitter pic [maybe profile pic?] that had him and musselman in it.
socaliganbear
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Yeah, he removed all Nevada stuff from his twitter page last night, and is now not on their staff. Which would make sense if he's going elsewhere.
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Yanni no longer at UNR
wifeisafurd
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socaliganbear;842823714 said:

Yeah, he removed all Nevada stuff from his twitter page last night, and is now not on their staff. Which would make sense if he's going elsewhere.
this was widely interpreted to mean Musselman was going to Cal by everyone in Reno, even by some very experienced BI insider types. Not to mention others supposedly close to the Cal program indicating Musselman was coming, based on comments purportedly attributed to Yanni. This guy must love to burn bridges.
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wifeisafurd;842823731 said:

this was widely interpreted to mean Musselman was going to Cal by everyone in Reno, even by some very experienced BI insider types. Not to mention others supposedly close to the Cal program indicating Musselman was coming, based on comments purportedly attributed to Yanni. This guy must love to burn bridges.

Yeah, a lot of people incorrectly connected dots.
GoCalBears
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DrDanger;842823718 said:

Yanni no longer at UNR


what happened?
MoragaBear
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Using twitter to read tea leaves is often a fool's errand
85Bear
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MoragaBear;842823742 said:

Using twitter to read tea leaves is often a fool's errand


I use Twinings for my tea leaves. :rimshot
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I don't know who the targets are but I think Bennet is a bad fit and both Bennet and Musselman would have taken they job if they were actually given the chance.
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wifeisafurd;842823731 said:

this was widely interpreted to mean Musselman was going to Cal by everyone in Reno, even by some very experienced BI insider types. Not to mention others supposedly close to the Cal program indicating Musselman was coming, based on comments purportedly attributed to Yanni. This guy must love to burn bridges.


Yeah, I hear Yanni and what's-her-face aren't even on speaking terms anymore! So sad that they couldn't even remain friends...
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MoragaBear;842823742 said:

Using twitter to read tea leaves is often a fool's errand


This is fake news. Twitter is the I-Ching. The sum of all wisdom.
MoragaBear
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BearBackerinLA;842823912 said:




That's the weasel spin.

Whatever helps them sleep at night.
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more like this?

MoragaBear
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BearBackerinLA;842823921 said:

more like this?




That's been the word pretty much all day for those that actually got it right.
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