Jason Kidd Is Now On The Market
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Well, he owns Bobby Hurley, that's for sure...
How important is it that the coach has graduated from college?
How important is it that the coach has graduated from college?
Rules no longer matter.
"At Cal, you either get to the league or get your degree" Fine with me...Big C said:
Well, he owns Bobby Hurley, that's for sure...
How important is it that the coach has graduated from college?
Big C said:
Well, he owns Bobby Hurley, that's for sure...
How important is it that the coach has graduated from college?
I'm no Bobby Hurley fan, but "owns"???
Hurley did have a career high 32 points that day. Regardless, I think the lack of a degree and a domestic violence arrest would make it a tough sell.
Blame it on the bobblehead. 
It was about time to fire the worst coach in the NBA. If they get someone decent, this could turn into a Mark Jackson/Steve Kerr situation. They are very talented.
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Cal should sign him now: 10 years; $100 million; 5 years guaranteed; perks to include home in Piedmont and Claremont Country Club membership.
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The question is not so much what Cal should/would do, it's what does Jason want in life.
He could be set here, back home, with a lifetime gig if he wanted. Smaller stage than the NBA but he'd always recruit well and that's enough.
Where does he go from here? Not a tv guy, I don't think.
He could be set here, back home, with a lifetime gig if he wanted. Smaller stage than the NBA but he'd always recruit well and that's enough.
Where does he go from here? Not a tv guy, I don't think.
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
Isn't there a requirement that one be a good coach? Wait, strike that.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
I'd love to see where this requirement is.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
I'm guessing his former team is still paying him per contract, so maybe we can luck out and get Kidd as one of these cheap "consultants" other schools seam to have.
Isn't there a requirement you have to have an attractive job (admin support, a practice facility and solid, competitive pay...) to attract a good coach?KoreAmBear said:Isn't there a requirement that one be a good coach? Wait, strike that.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
SFCALBear72 said:
Blame it on the bobblehead.
When I saw the title of the thread, I assumed it was about his bobble head
Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
ducky23 said:SFCALBear72 said:
Blame it on the bobblehead.
When I saw the title of the thread, I assumed it was about his bobble head
That mini bobblehead wouldn't fetch jack sh*t on the open market. The box was the best part of it.
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I'm not one who thinks Wyking is a bust because I think the jury is still out. The team had hardly any carry over from last year, and the better players are mostly freshmen. With that being said, if Jason wants to come here and make Cal his home, fire Wyking and hire Jason. As far as the graduation requirement, he can take some part time classes to work towards a degree.
Yeah because there are no academic requirements to be a professor at Cal (or at least, there weren't when I was there). Sure, they all end up having PhDs, but, in theory, they could become a professor while being a HS drop-out.Chapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
Well there are plenty of employees at Cal that don't have college degrees. Question is, are there specific laws for specific roles or are these just arbitrary rules Cal self imposes.Big C said:Yeah because there are no academic requirements to be a professor at Cal (or at least, there weren't when I was there). Sure, they all end up having PhDs, but, in theory, they could become a professor while being a HS drop-out.Chapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
Ok let's be serious about this for a second, cause I don't think it's necessarily that far fetched (maybe not next year, but the year after, once Jason takes one year off and wyking has another losing season).
Positives
- recruiting: is there any doubt Jason will be able to recruit? If you're an east bay kid and Jason Kidd walks into your living room, its going to very very hard to say no
- head coaching experience: say what you will about his time with Milwaukee, but at least he got several years of experience being a head coach. He won't be someone who will have to "learn on the job"
- respect: I think this is a bigger factor than people think. I think players quit on their coaches all the time. I have to think that if Jason tells you something, you're going to do it
- staff: Jason can probably bring in a pretty accomplished staff since he's surely made many many connections through the years playing and coaching in the nba. It'd also be cool if he could bring in someone like Theo, gates, shareef or hell bring in his bff Monty Buckley and give him some made up position like director of basketball.
Negatives
- coaching acumen: I still think it's possible he's a better coach than people think, but I think it's safe to say he's no Monty. But if I had to guess, I'd say he's average and nothing worse than slightly below average. I don't think you can be completely incompetent and last that long in the nba. He's surely just as good as Braun, lavin or Bozeman and they've all made it to the sweet 16. Something Monty was unable to do at cal.
- off court stuff: hasn't grauduated and alleged sexual assault.
- nba aspirations: possible that he'll bounce once he starts winning. But considering the current state of the program, I'd gladly take that problem.
Positives
- recruiting: is there any doubt Jason will be able to recruit? If you're an east bay kid and Jason Kidd walks into your living room, its going to very very hard to say no
- head coaching experience: say what you will about his time with Milwaukee, but at least he got several years of experience being a head coach. He won't be someone who will have to "learn on the job"
- respect: I think this is a bigger factor than people think. I think players quit on their coaches all the time. I have to think that if Jason tells you something, you're going to do it
- staff: Jason can probably bring in a pretty accomplished staff since he's surely made many many connections through the years playing and coaching in the nba. It'd also be cool if he could bring in someone like Theo, gates, shareef or hell bring in his bff Monty Buckley and give him some made up position like director of basketball.
Negatives
- coaching acumen: I still think it's possible he's a better coach than people think, but I think it's safe to say he's no Monty. But if I had to guess, I'd say he's average and nothing worse than slightly below average. I don't think you can be completely incompetent and last that long in the nba. He's surely just as good as Braun, lavin or Bozeman and they've all made it to the sweet 16. Something Monty was unable to do at cal.
- off court stuff: hasn't grauduated and alleged sexual assault.
- nba aspirations: possible that he'll bounce once he starts winning. But considering the current state of the program, I'd gladly take that problem.
Are you reading impaired? He doesn't have a bachelor's degree, therefore he isn't a possibility.ducky23 said:
Ok let's be serious about this for a second, cause I don't think it's necessarily that far fetched (maybe not next year, but the year after, once Jason takes one year off and wyking has another losing season).
Positives
- recruiting: is there any doubt Jason will be able to recruit? If you're an east bay kid and Jason Kidd walks into your living room, its going to very very hard to say no
- head coaching experience: say what you will about his time with Milwaukee, but at least he got several years of experience being a head coach. He won't be someone who will have to "learn on the job"
- respect: I think this is a bigger factor than people think. I think players quit on their coaches all the time. I have to think that if Jason tells you something, you're going to do it
- staff: Jason can probably bring in a pretty accomplished staff since he's surely made many many connections through the years playing and coaching in the nba. It'd also be cool if he could bring in someone like Theo, gates, shareef or hell bring in his bff Monty Buckley and give him some made up position like director of basketball.
Negatives
- coaching acumen: I still think it's possible he's a better coach than people think, but I think it's safe to say he's no Monty. But if I had to guess, I'd say he's average and nothing worse than slightly below average. I don't think you can be completely incompetent and last that long in the nba. He's surely just as good as Braun, lavin or Bozeman and they've all made it to the sweet 16. Something Monty was unable to do at cal.
- off court stuff: hasn't grauduated and alleged sexual assault.
- nba aspirations: possible that he'll bounce once he starts winning. But considering the current state of the program, I'd gladly take that problem.
bearister said:ducky23 said:SFCALBear72 said:
Blame it on the bobblehead.
When I saw the title of the thread, I assumed it was about his bobble head
That mini bobblehead wouldn't fetch jack sh*t on the open market. The box was the best part of it.
My bad:
https://www.ebay.com/i/323015198870?chn=ps&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fi%25252F323015198870%25253Fchn%25253Dps%2526itemid%253D323015198870%2526targetid%253D313776934696%2526device%253Dm%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9032076%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D833559251%2526adgroupid%253D39417365901%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-313776934696%2526abcId%253D1123856%2526merchantid%253D6296724%2526gclid%253DEAIaIQobChMI7vWtuIXt2AIVxGB-Ch1s2g_BEAQYASABEgKYP_D_BwE%2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1422471482966
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Yogi Bear said:
Are you reading impaired?
Do you mean illiterate?
Yogi Bear said:Are you reading impaired? He doesn't have a bachelor's degree, therefore he isn't a possibility.ducky23 said:
Ok let's be serious about this for a second, cause I don't think it's necessarily that far fetched (maybe not next year, but the year after, once Jason takes one year off and wyking has another losing season).
Positives
- recruiting: is there any doubt Jason will be able to recruit? If you're an east bay kid and Jason Kidd walks into your living room, its going to very very hard to say no
- head coaching experience: say what you will about his time with Milwaukee, but at least he got several years of experience being a head coach. He won't be someone who will have to "learn on the job"
- respect: I think this is a bigger factor than people think. I think players quit on their coaches all the time. I have to think that if Jason tells you something, you're going to do it
- staff: Jason can probably bring in a pretty accomplished staff since he's surely made many many connections through the years playing and coaching in the nba. It'd also be cool if he could bring in someone like Theo, gates, shareef or hell bring in his bff Monty Buckley and give him some made up position like director of basketball.
Negatives
- coaching acumen: I still think it's possible he's a better coach than people think, but I think it's safe to say he's no Monty. But if I had to guess, I'd say he's average and nothing worse than slightly below average. I don't think you can be completely incompetent and last that long in the nba. He's surely just as good as Braun, lavin or Bozeman and they've all made it to the sweet 16. Something Monty was unable to do at cal.
- off court stuff: hasn't grauduated and alleged sexual assault.
- nba aspirations: possible that he'll bounce once he starts winning. But considering the current state of the program, I'd gladly take that problem.
I guess I am reading impaired since I missed seeing the link on this thread that states this rule
Am not impressed with Jason's coaching acumen or his character...
Further I doubt he would want to coach at Cal.
Further I doubt he would want to coach at Cal.
Kidd won 44 games and took the Nets to the 2nd round of the playoffs his season there. They won 38, 21 and 20 since then.
The Bucks won 15 games the season before Kidd came and 41, 33 and 42 since then.
The Bucks won 15 games the season before Kidd came and 41, 33 and 42 since then.
I believe it's an NCAA requirement, not a Cal requirement.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
https://study.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Basketball_Coach_Step-by-Step_Career_Guide.htmlChapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
"Steps to Become A Basketball Coach
Step 1: Earn a Bachelor's Degree
You have the option to pursue programs in exercise and physical education; however, some schools offer degree programs that specialize in coach training. These programs teach students how to work with athletes and develop game plans, as well as plan and implement physical conditioning and skills development programs. Students also receive training in injury prevention."
Anything legit?NewYorkCityBear said:https://study.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Basketball_Coach_Step-by-Step_Career_Guide.htmlChapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
"Steps to Become A Basketball Coach
Step 1: Earn a Bachelor's Degree
You have the option to pursue programs in exercise and physical education; however, some schools offer degree programs that specialize in coach training. These programs teach students how to work with athletes and develop game plans, as well as plan and implement physical conditioning and skills development programs. Students also receive training in injury prevention."
In the google search I did that yielded this, several official postings for college basketball coach searches all turned up with 'Bachelor degree' as a requirement.socaliganbear said:Anything legit?NewYorkCityBear said:https://study.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Basketball_Coach_Step-by-Step_Career_Guide.htmlChapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
"Steps to Become A Basketball Coach
Step 1: Earn a Bachelor's Degree
You have the option to pursue programs in exercise and physical education; however, some schools offer degree programs that specialize in coach training. These programs teach students how to work with athletes and develop game plans, as well as plan and implement physical conditioning and skills development programs. Students also receive training in injury prevention."
How about a honorary degree? heck, the California State Supreme Court has had justices with honorary law degrees.oski003 said:
I'm not one who thinks Wyking is a bust because I think the jury is still out. The team had hardly any carry over from last year, and the better players are mostly freshmen. With that being said, if Jason wants to come here and make Cal his home, fire Wyking and hire Jason. As far as the graduation requirement, he can take some part time classes to work towards a degree.
I totally get that a degree is something that you would post on a listing, and even expect. Sure. What I'm wondering is if its an actual law that we as an public institution have to abide by, or an NCAA rule.NewYorkCityBear said:In the google search I did that yielded this, several official postings for college basketball coach searches all turned up with 'Bachelor degree' as a requirement.socaliganbear said:Anything legit?NewYorkCityBear said:https://study.com/articles/How_to_Become_a_Basketball_Coach_Step-by-Step_Career_Guide.htmlChapman_is_Gone said:Can you (or someone else) provide more concrete information on this rule? Where did it come from? Who enforces it?71Bear said:Yes.Yogi Bear said:
Isn't there a requirement at Cal that the coach have a bachelor's degree?
"Steps to Become A Basketball Coach
Step 1: Earn a Bachelor's Degree
You have the option to pursue programs in exercise and physical education; however, some schools offer degree programs that specialize in coach training. These programs teach students how to work with athletes and develop game plans, as well as plan and implement physical conditioning and skills development programs. Students also receive training in injury prevention."
Or... is it like some of the engineers at my company who don't have degrees, even though it's a requirement we list on all job listings. Because even though we say something, we set our own rules.