Defensive Move

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RedlessWardrobe
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Real good game last night (I guess an understatement based on this season.)

What I really liked was the decision to temporarily switch to man to man midway through the second half. You could see that the Bears were starting to slip a little bit on the defensive end ,so the coach switched out of the zone for a few minutes. Although it didn't completely stop the Huskies, it seemed to slow down their momentum and allowed the Bears to regain the lead.

Also real good performances all around. Even Bradley, who struggled much of the night made a couple of key plays in the 2nd half. Hopefully they can put together another game plan and effort like this on Saturday.
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good coaching
RedlessWardrobe
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calgo430 said:

good coaching
Wow! (Not sure if you're being sarcastic.) Care to expand on that?
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The dumb coaching move of the night belongs not to Jones, but to Mike Hopkins. OK, I don't know all of what was going on behind the scenes, but it made no sense to me that, as soon as UW tied the game at 71-71 with 4:36 left, Hopkins called an immediate TO, his last remaining one. Having been on an 11-4 run and having scored 5 points to Cal's none in the last 27 seconds, you'd think momentum was on UW's side and Cal might be getting a little panicky. A timeout was probably what Cal needed and UW didn't want. Yet Hopkins called his last TO?

UW was 1 for 8 from the floor in 4:36 after that TO, with the only 2 UW points a transition bucket after a steal by Crisp.

I loved the game that Cal played for the first 31 minutes, not so much the game we played the last 9 minutes, but thanks to UW's play after the Hopkins TO (and give the Bears some credit defensively), our offensive issues didn't kill us.

Last night, for the first 31 minutes, we had 20 assists to 5 turnovers. That was good basketball, if you want to know why this looked like the best game of the year up to that point, go no further than that 20-5 ratio over 31 minutes. I can't imagine we had any stretch of more than a half where we did that well this year (SD State was a watchable game where we had 18 assists to 8 TO's). Unfortunately, from that point on, it was bad offensive basketball. 2 assists and 6 turnovers, including 3 in a row on the first 3 possessions.

The only good news is that there was bad basketball on both sides, UW's coming especially after the inexplicable timeout. The last 4:36 was a little like watching the first 9 or 10 minutes of the game in Tucson, or pretty much the entire UCLA game at Haas, neither side playing watchable basketball. Over the next 4 minutes, Cal outscored UW 3-2, one FG for each team and 1-2 from the line Cal. 3 TO's for Cal in that stretch, 1 TO for UW and the aforementioned 1-8 floor. THERE'S great crunch time play for two teams. Then UW had no choice but to foul and at least we went 2-2 one of the two times they fouled, missing the front end the other time to make the last few seconds a little more exciting.

But the first 31 minutes made up for the lousy play by both teams at the end. I am very happy the players got to enjoy a conference win. Has the 12 seed in the Pac-12 tourney ever defeated the 1 seed in a regular season game? If this was the first time, it was a good time for it.
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I totally agree. I thought Cal called that timeout and was perplexed realizing it was UW. Maybe CP radioed in some game management advice from Seattle?
RedlessWardrobe
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Good points, I completely agree. While the Bears played their best offensive basketball the first 32 minutes, some of their final possessions were very sketchy, reminding us much more of their season. Still, there appeared to be obvious progress in this one. I know that take can be frowned upon based on how bad things have been, but it was still hard to not be slightly encouraged watching it. Hope it continues.
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Good points, I completely agree. While the Bears played their best offensive basketball the first 32 minutes, some of their final possessions were very sketchy, reminding us much more of their season. Still, there appeared to be obvious progress in this one. I know that take can be frowned upon based on how bad things have been, but it was still hard to not be slightly encouraged watching it. Hope it continues.
Let them frown.
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"Learning how to win" is such a big part of the process for young players. The last 5 minutes they got tentative - not attacking the zone with off ball movements like they had before and trying to be perfect rather than good.

I thought the coaching move that was good was Jones figuring out a way to get the kids to listen to him that they needed to run the guys off the three point line. if we were actually in the hunt (as opposed to a nice sugar high on the way to a single digit win season) I would go back and track three points shot and made by the Huskies during the game. Running them off the line really helped because they are just "OK" off the bounce and in attacking the rim.
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Cal8285 said:

The dumb coaching move of the night belongs not to Jones, but to Mike Hopkins. OK, I don't know all of what was going on behind the scenes, but it made no sense to me that, as soon as UW tied the game at 71-71 with 4:36 left, Hopkins called an immediate TO, his last remaining one. Having been on an 11-4 run and having scored 5 points to Cal's none in the last 27 seconds, you'd think momentum was on UW's side and Cal might be getting a little panicky. A timeout was probably what Cal needed and UW didn't want. Yet Hopkins called his last TO?

UW was 1 for 8 from the floor in 4:36 after that TO, with the only 2 UW points a transition bucket after a steal by Crisp.

I loved the game that Cal played for the first 31 minutes, not so much the game we played the last 9 minutes, but thanks to UW's play after the Hopkins TO (and give the Bears some credit defensively), our offensive issues didn't kill us.

Last night, for the first 31 minutes, we had 20 assists to 5 turnovers. That was good basketball, if you want to know why this looked like the best game of the year up to that point, go no further than that 20-5 ratio over 31 minutes. I can't imagine we had any stretch of more than a half where we did that well this year (SD State was a watchable game where we had 18 assists to 8 TO's). Unfortunately, from that point on, it was bad offensive basketball. 2 assists and 6 turnovers, including 3 in a row on the first 3 possessions.

The only good news is that there was bad basketball on both sides, UW's coming especially after the inexplicable timeout. The last 4:36 was a little like watching the first 9 or 10 minutes of the game in Tucson, or pretty much the entire UCLA game at Haas, neither side playing watchable basketball. Over the next 4 minutes, Cal outscored UW 3-2, one FG for each team and 1-2 from the line Cal. 3 TO's for Cal in that stretch, 1 TO for UW and the aforementioned 1-8 floor. THERE'S great crunch time play for two teams. Then UW had no choice but to foul and at least we went 2-2 one of the two times they fouled, missing the front end the other time to make the last few seconds a little more exciting.

But the first 31 minutes made up for the lousy play by both teams at the end. I am very happy the players got to enjoy a conference win. Has the 12 seed in the Pac-12 tourney ever defeated the 1 seed in a regular season game? If this was the first time, it was a good time for it.
I didn't see the whole game, just about the last 15 minutes, but even when we went cold, we still did get a couple of buckets -- Anticevich had a couple of mid range Js, as well as that Vanover baseline 15 footer (which should be his bread and butter, a la Don MacLean). That kept us going. What I liked about that were two things:

For them to be open, they had to make entry passes into the post, which we rarely did most of the season. Anticevich and Conor both were not afraid to just turn around and calmly drain what are open 15 footers.

Secondly, our problem in many games was that we would basically make it a game for about a half and then have that one 5-10 minute stretch where we completely do nothing on offense. That usually has been the time where our opponents gain confidence and separation, and essentially win the game. Those baskets disrupted that flow, and decent teams do that. Decent teams never have a dark period of 10 minutes every game.

Hopefully we are learning from this. I would love to see them beat Wazzu and make a run in the Pac-12 tournament. Yes, Wyking still should be fired, but I have nothing against him personally and hope he has a really good March. I was so happy for him, the coaching staff, the players and team managers, and all of their families. They all have families. They all have friends. Imagine what a brutal stretch this has been for them. I was so happy for their celebration last night in the locker room. Go Bears!
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KoreAmBear said:



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Hopefully we are learning from this. I would love to see them beat Wazzu and make a run in the Pac-12 tournament. Yes, Wyking still should be fired, but I have nothing against him personally and hope he has a really good March. I was so happy for him, the coaching staff, the players and team managers, and all of their families. They all have families. They all have friends. Imagine what a brutal stretch this has been for them. I was so happy for their celebration last night in the locker room. Go Bears!
Very good points Koream. I enjoyed your post, and was relieved to see that someone who prefers to see the coach removed can express his opinions with some dignity and class for a change. Wish some others could take your cue.
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SFCityBear said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

Good points, I completely agree. While the Bears played their best offensive basketball the first 32 minutes, some of their final possessions were very sketchy, reminding us much more of their season. Still, there appeared to be obvious progress in this one. I know that take can be frowned upon based on how bad things have been, but it was still hard to not be slightly encouraged watching it. Hope it continues.
Let them frown.
Yes SFCB, I agree.
Cal8285
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Good points, I completely agree. While the Bears played their best offensive basketball the first 32 minutes, some of their final possessions were very sketchy, reminding us much more of their season. Still, there appeared to be obvious progress in this one. I know that take can be frowned upon based on how bad things have been, but it was still hard to not be slightly encouraged watching it. Hope it continues.
I don't frown on that take, but I will take a wait an see attitude. It is only "progress" if it continues. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I thought we showed obvious progress after the San Diego St. game, it made me hopeful that the team would at least be enjoyable to watch even if we lost a lot of games. As I said at the time, it wasn't about the quality of SDSU as an opponent, it wasn't about whether the Bears won or lost, it was about the way the Bears played.

But that was about it for most of the rest of the season. Until last night, the Stanford, and Oregon St. games were the closest since SDSU where it felt like we were playing the way we should (until last night, I thought Oregon St. was our best conference game of the season).

IMO, we showed we're capable of playing like that against SDSU, but it was a one off. I claimed obvious progress after that game, and we promptly regressed. If this is a sign of things to come in the last 3 or more games, then yes, it is progress, and I'll be happy. Until then, it could be a one off like SDSU turned out to be.
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Agree, it may have just been a "dead bear bounce." (BTW, the UCLA home game was decent.)

And the fact that probably there are only 3 games left does not leave much time for the coaching staff to make any kind of a remotely positive statement for the season.
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SFCityBear said:

RedlessWardrobe said:

Good points, I completely agree. While the Bears played their best offensive basketball the first 32 minutes, some of their final possessions were very sketchy, reminding us much more of their season. Still, there appeared to be obvious progress in this one. I know that take can be frowned upon based on how bad things have been, but it was still hard to not be slightly encouraged watching it. Hope it continues.
Let them frown.

I have a new thought on this. I think in the absolute best case scenario the jury is still out on Wyking's coaching ability ( many say that because of our record the ship has already sailed on that argument). Don MacLean said at the beginning of the season that Cal's biggest shortcoming was defense but that by mid season Cal would be much better in that regard and would be a "tough out" for opposing teams. Well, Cal did not meet Don's time table although by mid season the Bears showed signs of improvement. Did the Bears fulfill Don's prediction last night, albeit a little later than expected? It looks that way.
Perhaps Wyking's failure was that he was too inexperienced as a coach to bring a young team along as quickly as a more experienced coach could have. The game appeared well coached to me last night. Would Montgomery have achieved a better result last night with his superior coaching ability? Would Braun? Would Lou? Cuonzo loses that game. As I commented after the game, I have no recollection of Cuonzo ever winning a game that was close at the end.
I suppose this analysis will be fleshed out by how the Bears perform in the last two games of the regular season and then in the PAC 12 Tourney. If we revert to our losing ways then my arguments above favorable to Wyking may go down in flames along with his job.
There is one thing we can all agree on: if the Bears don't significantly improve next year to the satisfaction of a sizable portion of the paying fan base, then Wyking will have nowhere to hide, his services will be terminated and a large check written.
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HoopDreams
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Excellent post

I didn't know that was UW's last TO

Why would Hopkins call his last TO in a close game during a big UW run???


Cal8285 said:

The dumb coaching move of the night belongs not to Jones, but to Mike Hopkins. OK, I don't know all of what was going on behind the scenes, but it made no sense to me that, as soon as UW tied the game at 71-71 with 4:36 left, Hopkins called an immediate TO, his last remaining one. Having been on an 11-4 run and having scored 5 points to Cal's none in the last 27 seconds, you'd think momentum was on UW's side and Cal might be getting a little panicky. A timeout was probably what Cal needed and UW didn't want. Yet Hopkins called his last TO?

UW was 1 for 8 from the floor in 4:36 after that TO, with the only 2 UW points a transition bucket after a steal by Crisp.

I loved the game that Cal played for the first 31 minutes, not so much the game we played the last 9 minutes, but thanks to UW's play after the Hopkins TO (and give the Bears some credit defensively), our offensive issues didn't kill us.

Last night, for the first 31 minutes, we had 20 assists to 5 turnovers. That was good basketball, if you want to know why this looked like the best game of the year up to that point, go no further than that 20-5 ratio over 31 minutes. I can't imagine we had any stretch of more than a half where we did that well this year (SD State was a watchable game where we had 18 assists to 8 TO's). Unfortunately, from that point on, it was bad offensive basketball. 2 assists and 6 turnovers, including 3 in a row on the first 3 possessions.

The only good news is that there was bad basketball on both sides, UW's coming especially after the inexplicable timeout. The last 4:36 was a little like watching the first 9 or 10 minutes of the game in Tucson, or pretty much the entire UCLA game at Haas, neither side playing watchable basketball. Over the next 4 minutes, Cal outscored UW 3-2, one FG for each team and 1-2 from the line Cal. 3 TO's for Cal in that stretch, 1 TO for UW and the aforementioned 1-8 floor. THERE'S great crunch time play for two teams. Then UW had no choice but to foul and at least we went 2-2 one of the two times they fouled, missing the front end the other time to make the last few seconds a little more exciting.

But the first 31 minutes made up for the lousy play by both teams at the end. I am very happy the players got to enjoy a conference win. Has the 12 seed in the Pac-12 tourney ever defeated the 1 seed in a regular season game? If this was the first time, it was a good time for it.
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Even better would be a 12 beating a 5 in the first game of the tourney. Has that one ever happened?
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HoopDreams said:

Excellent post

I didn't know that was UW's last TO

Why would Hopkins call his last TO in a close game during a big UW run???
He probably forgot he called 2 in the first half.
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KenBurnski said:

I totally agree. I thought Cal called that timeout and was perplexed realizing it was UW. Maybe CP radioed in some game management advice from Seattle?
Same here. Washington seemed to tighten up a bit after the TO too.
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