SFCityBear said:

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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Oregon State rolled Northwest 114-42. I don't think Oregon State is a 12th place kind of team.

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Either that, or being only about 20 points better than NAIA Northwest is not a good sign for our Bears, compared to Oregon State being 70 points better than Northwest.

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I wouldn't read too much into those scores. Cal doesn't have the firepower top to bottom or the offensive scheme to score 114 points. That doesn't mean Cal can't be a good basketball team, or that Cal can't beat OSU in conference games. This week's Cal-OSU game, played on their court with only a last minute notice, allowing for hardly any practice for Cal beforehand, was not an easy win for OSU, and Cal still made it close at the end. OSU was much better practiced and better prepared for that game, and it showed. Cal won't always have a lid on the basket, like they did in that game. Barring serious injuries or illnesses for Cal players, it is not a stretch to predict that Cal will beat OSU in Haas, and also have a 50-50 shot to beat them in Corvallis in conference games this season.

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Of course, OSU was picked 12th in conference so, yeah.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I have little faith in pre-season picks. I think OSU may be better than 12th, or else the conference is improving overall, which I am a little skeptical about, based on the number of quality PAC12 players drafted by the NBA for this season. That OSU transfer from Nichols gives OSU another dimension. They look more athletic than last year. Of course, a very rusty unprepared Cal may have made OSU look better than they are.

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BearSD said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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Oregon State rolled Northwest 114-42. I don't think Oregon State is a 12th place kind of team.

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Either that, or being only about 20 points better than NAIA Northwest is not a good sign for our Bears, compared to Oregon State being 70 points better than Northwest.

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I wouldn't read too much into those scores. Cal doesn't have the firepower top to bottom or the offensive scheme to score 114 points. That doesn't mean Cal can't be a good basketball team, or that Cal can't beat OSU in conference games. This week's Cal-OSU game, played on their court with only a last minute notice, allowing for hardly any practice for Cal beforehand, was not an easy win for OSU, and Cal still made it close at the end. OSU was much better practiced and better prepared for that game, and it showed. Cal won't always have a lid on the basket, like they did in that game. Barring serious injuries or illnesses for Cal players, it is not a stretch to predict that Cal will beat OSU in Haas, and also have a 50-50 shot to beat them in Corvallis in conference games this season.

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Of course, OSU was picked 12th in conference so, yeah.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I have little faith in pre-season picks. I think OSU may be better than 12th, or else the conference is improving overall, which I am a little skeptical about, based on the number of quality PAC12 players drafted by the NBA for this season. That OSU transfer from Nichols gives OSU another dimension. They look more athletic than last year. Of course, a very rusty unprepared Cal may have made OSU look better than they are.

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Well according to Sagarin's Recent:
1. Oregon #29
2. UCLA #34
3. Colorado #40
4. ASU #48
5. Arizona #49
6. Stanford #59
7. USC #67
8. Utah #80
9. UW #83
10. OSU #103
11. WSU #120
12: Cal #152

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SFCityBear said:

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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calumnus said:

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SFCityBear said:

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BearSD said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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Oregon State rolled Northwest 114-42. I don't think Oregon State is a 12th place kind of team.

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Either that, or being only about 20 points better than NAIA Northwest is not a good sign for our Bears, compared to Oregon State being 70 points better than Northwest.

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I wouldn't read too much into those scores. Cal doesn't have the firepower top to bottom or the offensive scheme to score 114 points. That doesn't mean Cal can't be a good basketball team, or that Cal can't beat OSU in conference games. This week's Cal-OSU game, played on their court with only a last minute notice, allowing for hardly any practice for Cal beforehand, was not an easy win for OSU, and Cal still made it close at the end. OSU was much better practiced and better prepared for that game, and it showed. Cal won't always have a lid on the basket, like they did in that game. Barring serious injuries or illnesses for Cal players, it is not a stretch to predict that Cal will beat OSU in Haas, and also have a 50-50 shot to beat them in Corvallis in conference games this season.

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Of course, OSU was picked 12th in conference so, yeah.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I have little faith in pre-season picks. I think OSU may be better than 12th, or else the conference is improving overall, which I am a little skeptical about, based on the number of quality PAC12 players drafted by the NBA for this season. That OSU transfer from Nichols gives OSU another dimension. They look more athletic than last year. Of course, a very rusty unprepared Cal may have made OSU look better than they are.

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Well according to Sagarin's Recent:
1. Oregon #29
2. UCLA #34
3. Colorado #40
4. ASU #48
5. Arizona #49
6. Stanford #59
7. USC #67
8. Utah #80
9. UW #83
10. OSU #103
11. WSU #120
12: Cal #152

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Does this include the most recent games played?

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gooski said:

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Foreman and Betley with nice 3's - Bowser with a beautiful flush - Northwest's only big man out with two fouls

Everyone should play minutes Today

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concordtom said:

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gooski said:

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Foreman and Betley with nice 3's - Bowser with a beautiful flush - Northwest's only big man out with two fouls

Everyone should play minutes Today

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Never heard of them.
Are those guys ours?

My, how far we've fallen if I don't know that.

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stu said:

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I won't defend Jones' coaching but he did recruit Bradley, Kelly, Brown, Thorpe, and Vanover.

FWIW in 2 games at Arkansas Vanover has 29 points (on 75% shooting), 24 rebounds, and 9 blocks.

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SFCityBear said:

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concordtom said:

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gooski said:

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Foreman and Betley with nice 3's - Bowser with a beautiful flush - Northwest's only big man out with two fouls

Everyone should play minutes Today

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Never heard of them.
Are those guys ours?

My, how far we've fallen if I don't know that.

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The fall began with Cuonzo taking his finger off the recruiting trigger in his 3rd season, or maybe it began with the hiring of Hufnagel who gave us a sexual harassment case, and then Cuonzo fleeing the program altogether for a bucket full of cash. Then came the brilliant hiring of a longtime mediocre assistant coach who had never been a head coach anywhere, not even on his kids' playground team, to my knowledge. His name was Wyking, or Why King? or Why Head Coach? His brilliant recruiting, astonishing strategy and in-game tactics rode us down to oblivion. We had officially fallen just about as far as a team can fall.

We are now on the way back up. We have a coach who is a Fox. Ryan Betley is Grant Mullins in disguise, sneaking back onto the Cal roster for another grad transfer season. Malik Foreman is the first Cal player to sport a beard. He is not James Harden, but he will score, be a quarterback, and can make threes. Bowser is not the famous "Bowzer" a singer in the group Sha Na Na, who dressed as a greaser with a pack of cigs rolled up in the sleeve of his T-shirt, who currently is hawking CDs of '50s Rock and Roll and Doo Wop music on TV infomercials, and othewise known as Jon Bauman. Bowser is Monty Bowser, a kid from Bishop O'Dowd, who made the best dunk seen at Cal since Jaylen Brown. He has nothing but upside. And he will lead Cal to landing the services of O'Dowd's 6-9 PF Jalen Lewis, the best big man in the Bay high school scene since Ivan Rabb.

We have fallen, we have bottomed, and we are rising! Get on board Tom, and enjoy the ride.

SFCB

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oskidunker said:

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Why would anyone here care about what Suing is doing? He left Cal, did not care about the program or the University.

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