ASU Game Thread.

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Big C said:


That play might be the turnaround point in Lars Thiemann's college career. (decisive jam over another, albeit shorter, player)

Waited all last year for him to go up without hesitation and jam it. Good to see it.
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bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.
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NYCGOBEARS said:

Big C said:


That play might be the turnaround point in Lars Thiemann's college career. (decisive jam over another, albeit shorter, player)

Waited all last year for him to go up without hesitation and jam it. Good to see it.
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MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.
Betley needs to start heating up again.
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I love Matt Bradley.
KoreAmBear
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Matt just bullies his way to the basket. Love it.
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I cannot be wearing sunglasses in my living room in the evening: Ant Man needs to get a little sun on those shoulders.
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MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.


So are you saying as among college players the better FT shooters are in better cardiovascular condition? I'm passing on that purchase.
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bearister said:

MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.


So are you saying as among college players the better FT shooters are in better cardiovascular condition? I'm passing on that purchase.
The best ft shooters tend to be able to maintain their form despite fatigue
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That defenders feet weren't set on that flop. Brutal...
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I love Matt, but he needs to rest the step-back 3 for awhile. He is 1 for 8 tonight on 3s, and 2 for 25 for the season. I think last season he was more a a catch and shoot 3 point shooter and was deadly
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IssyBear said:

I love Matt, but he needs to rest the step-back 3 for awhile. He is 1 for 8 tonight on 3s, and 2 for 25 for the season. I think last season he was more a a catch and shoot 3 point shooter and was deadly
I think he's a little gassed. Just go to the rim. We need a couple of treys from Betley and Foreman.

Joel doing a good job overall on Remy. That was a charge. I think extended his arm.
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Is there a James Harden point guard program at ASU?
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Agreed on the call against Joel.
KoreAmBear
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Undermanned Cal doing a great job keeping this game within range.
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Foul on Kelly? That is such a bull**** flop. Now I remember why I hate Pac-12 refs so much.
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MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.


So are you saying as among college players the better FT shooters are in better cardiovascular condition? I'm passing on that purchase.
The best ft shooters tend to be able to maintain their form despite fatigue

I realize you have a valid point. But I think it may have been J Kidd that said that with FT shooting you are either naturally good at it or you have to work at it. Karl Malone went from making less than 50% of his FT's to having 3 seasons in a row late in his career at 79%. He practiced.
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BS call on Kelly
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sonofabear51 said:

BS call on Kelly
Pac-12 basketball officiating is just as suspicious as Pac-12 football officiating.
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Exactly
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bearister said:

MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

MoragaBear said:

bearister said:

KoreAmBear said:

Nice take by Joel Brown he has to attack the basket. But FT ugh.


I have never understood how college players can't make free throws. My kids rarely missed in CYO games from 6th grade on.
CYO players don't exert themselves nearly as much as collegiate players do. Fatigue usually plays a role in altering ft's.


So are you saying as among college players the better FT shooters are in better cardiovascular condition? I'm passing on that purchase.
The best ft shooters tend to be able to maintain their form despite fatigue

I realize you have a valid point. But I think it may have been J Kidd that said that with FT shooting you are either naturally good at it or you have to work at it. Karl Malone went from making less than 50% of his FT's to having 3 seasons in a row late in his career at 79%. He practiced.
Just referencing the comparison between CYO and collegiate. Most of these guys can hit a high percentage in practice or in a light scrimmage comparable to CYO ball.
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Ouch, looks like Bagley tore an Achilles.
bearister
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Is that an Achilles tear? Seemed too delayed to be the result of any interaction with Bradley as suggested by Ben.
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We have to take better care of the ball. WAY too many turnovers. They are killing us.
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Man that's not good for Bagley.

It is good to see Bowser in his polo shirt on the bench.

We have played well but too many turnovers to expect to win.

Cal just let ASU run out the game really.

We stopped shooting treys in the second half. We need those treys.
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Bears fail to cover the 6.5. Good effort, though.
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sonofabear51
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I also thought the Bears played well against a pretty deep and talented ASU team. Too many TO's and a couple of questionable calls didn't go Cal's way.

Go Bears!
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KoreAmBear said:

Man that's not good for Bagley.

It is good to see Bowser in his polo shirt on the bench.

We have played well but too many turnovers to expect to win.

Cal just let ASU run out the game really.

We stopped shooting treys in the second half. We need those treys.
Maybe it was because we were 1 for 11 in the second half.
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sonofabear51 said:

I also thought the Bears played well against a pretty deep and talented ASU team. Too many TO's and a couple of questionable calls didn't go Cal's way.

Go Bears!
Rebounding was a lot better. D was good for most of the game. Joel Brown did a good job on Remy Martin. You can't stop him all game. We are still not very strong with the ball and have to value every possession. We need to shoot a lot of threes and make like 30-40% of them as we can't expect to match the firepower on offense of most of the Pac-12 teams. Can't say our guys didn't give full effort.
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Bradley and ASU's Cherry still talkin' after the buzzer. I guess Cherry didn't get the memo about who not to f*** with.
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IssyBear said:

KoreAmBear said:

Man that's not good for Bagley.

It is good to see Bowser in his polo shirt on the bench.

We have played well but too many turnovers to expect to win.

Cal just let ASU run out the game really.

We stopped shooting treys in the second half. We need those treys.
Maybe it was because we were 1 for 11 in the second half.
At least for Matt he seemed gassed - probably from having to bully his way to the basket so much. He even air balled one which he never does.
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Cool that all the Sun Devil players decided to have the same hair this season!
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Big C said:


Bradley and ASU's Cherry still talkin' after the buzzer. I guess Cherry didn't get the memo about who not to f*** with.
Lot of floppers at ASU. I don't know why P12 refs buy it like it's legit. Didn't Bobby use to do that at Duke?
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Good effort by Cal on defense but Matt Bradley is a turnover machine on offense, right now.. 20 turnovers is never acceptable especially when 75% of them were unforced. We were fortunate that Arizona State was missing two good players but I thought that we played well in the first half. Remi Martin, as is usually the case, was the difference in Berkeley again. Hope that we can play a cleaner game against UCLA on Sunday and that Foreman, Betley, Grant and Matt can shoot a decent percentage from the 3 point line. Go Bears.
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