One of the best women's game In have seen - US wins by one point. France came within one or two inches of putting the game into overtime (a made French shot right before the buzzard was correctly deemed to be for 2 points, not three because the shooter was on the line). This is the first time the women have very been even is a competitive game, and they had to overcome a double digit French lead to win. The rest of the world is catching-up on both the men's and women's side.
Women's Olympic Final
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Not just a tense game, but a downright stressful one: kind of like Cardiac Cal, only elite. The French played swarming defense, and kept their poise; it's good to see the women's game progress to the point that the USA has real challengers. (Although I can't resist pointing out that their star player, Gabby Williams, is a UConn graduate.)
U.S. WBB is the one thing I am truly chauvinistic about.
U.S. WBB is the one thing I am truly chauvinistic about.
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
Gabby Williams was heartbroken at the end when she realized her foot was on the 3-point line when she took that last shot.BearBint said:
Not just a tense game, but a downright stressful one: kind of like Cardiac Cal, only elite. The French played swarming defense, and kept their poise; it's good to see the women's game progress to the point that the USA has real challengers. (Although I can't resist pointing out that their star player, Gabby Williams, is a UConn graduate.)
U.S. WBB is the one thing I am truly chauvinistic about.
Fun fact: Gabby Williams is also the sister of incoming grad transfer, Jayda Noble. Jayda was in Paris to watch her sister play and documented her travels on Instagram.
Jayda Noble - Women's Basketball - California Golden Bears Athletics (calbears.com)
The pass from Marine Johannes forced Williams inside the three-point line. She had to go there to catch the ball. Had the pass been a foot further away from the basket, Williams would have been shooting a three.
I was surprised how close this game was. I thought US would win easily by double digit (as they have done in almost every game).
If France (and other countries) have players that can compete so well against the best of the WNBA, there should be a lot of overseas recruiting opportunities for Cal WBB.
Go Bears!
If France (and other countries) have players that can compete so well against the best of the WNBA, there should be a lot of overseas recruiting opportunities for Cal WBB.
Go Bears!
calbear80 said:
I was surprised how close this game was. I thought US would win easily by double digit (as they have done in almost every game).
If France (and other countries) have players that can compete so well against the best of the WNBA, there should be a lot of overseas recruiting opportunities for Cal WBB.
Go Bears!
It wasn't the best of the WNBA. They lost to the non-Olympic all stars, which was the best of the players not selected to the Olympics.
Think guard play for the USA was a weak with DT past her prime and Gray still recovering from her injury. Too much pressure for Stewart & Wilson to carry the load. Should had Clark, Reese, or Arike on the team for the experience. Think all were better condirion than DT and Gray
I agree.
Kahleah Copper gave them energy and quickness off the bench in the 2nd half - 12 points/5 rebounds.
Likewise, Kelsey Plum.
We couldn't handle their pressure defense particularly in the first half - which led to 15 turnovers.
France also had more ball movement, passing around the perimeter in their offensive scheme.
The World is catching up with US WBB. Let's see what the LA Games bring.
Kahleah Copper gave them energy and quickness off the bench in the 2nd half - 12 points/5 rebounds.
Likewise, Kelsey Plum.
We couldn't handle their pressure defense particularly in the first half - which led to 15 turnovers.
France also had more ball movement, passing around the perimeter in their offensive scheme.
The World is catching up with US WBB. Let's see what the LA Games bring.
Agreed. The French team was quick, smart and well coached. They also had the advantage of home court. It was good for the USA women, still the best in the world, to get pushed and stretched.SFCALBear72 said:
I agree.
Kahleah Copper gave them energy and quickness off the bench in the 2nd half - 12 points/5 rebounds.
Likewise, Kelsey Plum.
We couldn't handle their pressure defense particularly in the first half - which led to 15 turnovers.
France also had more ball movement, passing around the perimeter in their offensive scheme.
The World is catching up with US WBB. Let's see what the LA Games bring.
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
I didn't watch a minute of the games but looking at box score and USA's poor assists and 3 pt shooting It appears Caitlin Clark would have contributed more that Diana T who DNP
Cooper showing off Philly toughness....SFCALBear72 said:
I agree.
Kahleah Copper gave them energy and quickness off the bench in the 2nd half - 12 points/5 rebounds.
Likewise, Kelsey Plum.
We couldn't handle their pressure defense particularly in the first half - which led to 15 turnovers.
France also had more ball movement, passing around the perimeter in their offensive scheme.
The World is catching up with US WBB. Let's see what the LA Games bring.
The U.S. trailed France because of 13 first-half turnovers, and turnovers have always been the weakness of USA teams, which don't play together for long. (The French WNBA players stayed home to work as a unit.)
Caitlin Clark's major weakness is turnovers. They have shooters and passers, but what they absolutely didn't need was another player who had turnover issues.
Even if Clark were on the team, I can't imagine her playing in a game like that one.
Caitlin Clark's major weakness is turnovers. They have shooters and passers, but what they absolutely didn't need was another player who had turnover issues.
Even if Clark were on the team, I can't imagine her playing in a game like that one.
ClayK said:
The U.S. trailed France because of 13 first-half turnovers, and turnovers have always been the weakness of USA teams, which don't play together for long. (The French WNBA players stayed home to work as a unit.)
Caitlin Clark's major weakness is turnovers. They have shooters and passers, but what they absolutely didn't need was another player who had turnover issues.
Even if Clark were on the team, I can't imagine her playing in a game like that one.
CC had 10 assists and only 2 turnovers in the non-Olympic WNBA teams victory against the Olympic team, where they were up by 20 points or so with 10 minutes left. She could have definitely helped the team. Dokic and Wembayana and LeBron and Giannis lead the NBA in turnovers. Caitlin is one of the top players in the WNBA and will win rookie of the year.
Agree. Some thought the USA team would blow out every team, but the French said differently
CC would have absolutely helped them beat the French in a more comfortable win.
She also would have drew more fans to the games, which besides one game had low attendance (stadium was only half full and TV ratings weren't good)
She proved she can help an "all-star team with new players around her when the all-stars beat the Olympic team
CC would have absolutely helped them beat the French in a more comfortable win.
She also would have drew more fans to the games, which besides one game had low attendance (stadium was only half full and TV ratings weren't good)
She proved she can help an "all-star team with new players around her when the all-stars beat the Olympic team
oski003 said:ClayK said:
The U.S. trailed France because of 13 first-half turnovers, and turnovers have always been the weakness of USA teams, which don't play together for long. (The French WNBA players stayed home to work as a unit.)
Caitlin Clark's major weakness is turnovers. They have shooters and passers, but what they absolutely didn't need was another player who had turnover issues.
Even if Clark were on the team, I can't imagine her playing in a game like that one.
CC had 10 assists and only 2 turnovers in the non-Olympic WNBA teams victory against the Olympic team, where they were up by 20 points or so with 10 minutes left. She could have definitely helped the team. Dokic and Wembayana and LeBron and Giannis lead the NBA in turnovers. Caitlin is one of the top players in the WNBA and will win rookie of the year.
Numbers (source for Olympics, media writer, Richard Deitcch):HoopDreams said:
Agree. Some thought the USA team would blow out every team, but the French said differently
CC would have absolutely helped them beat the French in a more comfortable win.
She also would have drew more fans to the games, which besides one game had low attendance (stadium was only half full and TV ratings weren't good)
She proved she can help an "all-star team with new players around her when the all-stars beat the Olympic teamoski003 said:ClayK said:
The U.S. trailed France because of 13 first-half turnovers, and turnovers have always been the weakness of USA teams, which don't play together for long. (The French WNBA players stayed home to work as a unit.)
Caitlin Clark's major weakness is turnovers. They have shooters and passers, but what they absolutely didn't need was another player who had turnover issues.
Even if Clark were on the team, I can't imagine her playing in a game like that one.
CC had 10 assists and only 2 turnovers in the non-Olympic WNBA teams victory against the Olympic team, where they were up by 20 points or so with 10 minutes left. She could have definitely helped the team. Dokic and Wembayana and LeBron and Giannis lead the NBA in turnovers. Caitlin is one of the top players in the WNBA and will win rookie of the year.
The U.S women's basketball team's tense win over France on Sunday drew 7.8 million viewers on NBC and Peacock. That's for a 9:30am ET time start.
The game peak at 10.9 million viewers for final half hour (11-11:30am ET).
Iowa-S.Carolina Final Four was 5.6 million viewers
2023 LSU-Iowa Final 4 was 9.9 million
I don't think this is a bad number (I'm not doing the historical research) and this certainly downplays the notion that NBC controls everything: this is not a good time slot relative to
Caitlin Clark averages two more turnovers per game than the next worst player in the WNBA. It is her biggest issue right now. To cherrypick one game and say "Oh, it's not a problem" ignores statistical reality.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
ClayK said:
Caitlin Clark averages two more turnovers per game than the next worst player in the WNBA. It is her biggest issue right now. To cherrypick one game and say "Oh, it's not a problem" ignores statistical reality.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
You vastly underestimate Caitlin Clark. She is instant offense. Her WNBA turnovers are caused by the insane amount of defensive attention she gets (WNBA players treat guarding her like it is their Superbowl) and the sheer amount of ball handling she does for a team that only won 13 games last season. Some of her turnovers are certainly her forcing the issue and some are her teammates' lack of athleticism. She is not a ride the pine player like Diana Taurasi is now. She would certainly have electrified their offense.
Why all the campaigning for Caitlin Clark now? There's another thread for that. The Olympics are over.
Let's see how she does in the tryouts for LA 2028 Games. You too, Angel Reese.
Let's see how she does in the tryouts for LA 2028 Games. You too, Angel Reese.
SFCALBear72 said:
Why all the campaigning for Caitlin Clark now? There's another thread for that. The Olympics are over.
Let's see how she does in the tryouts for LA 2028 Games. You too, Angel Reese.
We won gold, even if we squeaked by underwhelming opponents. Hopefully, we will send the best next time.
I rewatched the second half of the game just to see that shark-like little grin on Kelsey Plum's face when she was taking free throws. K.P. has developed into a real dog, craving the ball and savoring clutch shots.
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
Can't help myself.oski003 said:ClayK said:
Caitlin Clark averages two more turnovers per game than the next worst player in the WNBA. It is her biggest issue right now. To cherrypick one game and say "Oh, it's not a problem" ignores statistical reality.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
You vastly underestimate Caitlin Clark. She is instant offense. Her WNBA turnovers are caused by the insane amount of defensive attention she gets (WNBA players treat guarding her like it is their Superbowl) and the sheer amount of ball handling she does for a team that only won 13 games last season. Some of her turnovers are certainly her forcing the issue and some are her teammates' lack of athleticism. She is not a ride the pine player like Diana Taurasi is now. She would certainly have electrified their offense.
Caitlin Clark is 13th in the WNBA in scoring. She is a below-average three-point shooter (32.7%).She is first in turnovers. She's a bad defender.
She does get lots of attention in the W, but so does every lead guard. She also plays with an outstanding post player in Aliyah Boston.
And she can't guard at the level needed to win gold. Defense is an absolutely critical part of any team that wants to win gold, and Clark does not defend. She will eventually, I'm sure, but right now she could not be trusted on the court at key moments. She does not defend. She does not shoot the three well. She turns the ball over way too much.
If you want instant offense, both Arike Ogwunbowale and Chennedy Carter are more productive. Why aren't they on the team? Neither of them defends and Ogwumbowale turns the ball over (second to Clark in the league, but two fewer per game). As for Carter, punching your teammates in the locker room after a game isn't exactly what USA Basketball is looking for.
ClayK said:Can't help myself.oski003 said:ClayK said:
Caitlin Clark averages two more turnovers per game than the next worst player in the WNBA. It is her biggest issue right now. To cherrypick one game and say "Oh, it's not a problem" ignores statistical reality.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
You vastly underestimate Caitlin Clark. She is instant offense. Her WNBA turnovers are caused by the insane amount of defensive attention she gets (WNBA players treat guarding her like it is their Superbowl) and the sheer amount of ball handling she does for a team that only won 13 games last season. Some of her turnovers are certainly her forcing the issue and some are her teammates' lack of athleticism. She is not a ride the pine player like Diana Taurasi is now. She would certainly have electrified their offense.
Caitlin Clark is 13th in the WNBA in scoring. She is a below-average three-point shooter (32.7%).She is first in turnovers. She's a bad defender.
She does get lots of attention in the W, but so does every lead guard. She also plays with an outstanding post player in Aliyah Boston.
And she can't guard at the level needed to win gold. Defense is an absolutely critical part of any team that wants to win gold, and Clark does not defend. She will eventually, I'm sure, but right now she could not be trusted on the court at key moments. She does not defend. She does not shoot the three well. She turns the ball over way too much.
If you want instant offense, both Arike Ogwunbowale and Chennedy Carter are more productive. Why aren't they on the team? Neither of them defends and Ogwumbowale turns the ball over (second to Clark in the league, but two fewer per game). As for Carter, punching your teammates in the locker room after a game isn't exactly what USA Basketball is looking for.
Steph Curry doesn't have elite defense either but you could say he contributed to win gold. As far as offense goes, Arike is inefficient and takes almost 30 shots a game. Her field goal percentage is the same as her 3pt percentage. Chennedy's 3 pt percentage is even worse and she doesn't even start on her own team half the time. And neither player can generate the same level of assists and open shots for their teammates that CC can.
bear2034 said:ClayK said:Can't help myself.oski003 said:ClayK said:
Caitlin Clark averages two more turnovers per game than the next worst player in the WNBA. It is her biggest issue right now. To cherrypick one game and say "Oh, it's not a problem" ignores statistical reality.
And Clark is, at best, an indifferent defender. She has never played much team defense, and though she's finally trying, she still has a long way to go. I can't imagine Cheryl Reeve letting her on the court in a game where a single defensive mistake could cost you the goid.
And finally, do you think fans in Lille would go to the games to see Caitlin Clark sit on the bench? How many tickets would Caitlin Clark sell six miles from the French-Belgian border? And, truthfully, what would another 200 tickets matter?
And I don't see ratings skyrocketing for Nigeria-USA no matter who's on the roster.
You vastly underestimate Caitlin Clark. She is instant offense. Her WNBA turnovers are caused by the insane amount of defensive attention she gets (WNBA players treat guarding her like it is their Superbowl) and the sheer amount of ball handling she does for a team that only won 13 games last season. Some of her turnovers are certainly her forcing the issue and some are her teammates' lack of athleticism. She is not a ride the pine player like Diana Taurasi is now. She would certainly have electrified their offense.
Caitlin Clark is 13th in the WNBA in scoring. She is a below-average three-point shooter (32.7%).She is first in turnovers. She's a bad defender.
She does get lots of attention in the W, but so does every lead guard. She also plays with an outstanding post player in Aliyah Boston.
And she can't guard at the level needed to win gold. Defense is an absolutely critical part of any team that wants to win gold, and Clark does not defend. She will eventually, I'm sure, but right now she could not be trusted on the court at key moments. She does not defend. She does not shoot the three well. She turns the ball over way too much.
If you want instant offense, both Arike Ogwunbowale and Chennedy Carter are more productive. Why aren't they on the team? Neither of them defends and Ogwumbowale turns the ball over (second to Clark in the league, but two fewer per game). As for Carter, punching your teammates in the locker room after a game isn't exactly what USA Basketball is looking for.
Steph Curry doesn't have elite defense either but you could say he contributed to win gold. As far as offense goes, Arike is inefficient and takes almost 30 shots a game. Her field goal percentage is the same as her 3pt percentage. Chennedy's 3 pt percentage is even worse and she doesn't even start on her own team half the time. And neither player can generate the same level of assists and open shots for their teammates that CC can.
Clark is a decent defender but could be better around the perimeter. She is an elite defensive rebounder for a guard. She does not have good rim protection behind her. She has a better defensive rating than Nalyssa Smith and Kelsey Mitchell and slightly worse than Boston. Indiana is a poor defensive team overall. She certainly makes them much better though.
Yes CC has high turnovers, but she is number 1 in the WNBA in assists, and she is an elite passer
It is always the same issue. Do you want technically the best team or do you want to take advantage of an historic opportunity to build the game. There were better singers than Elvis, but he drew the crowds and put rock-and-roll on the map.
IMHO at the Olympics the primary goal is to win.annarborbear said:
It is always the same issue. Do you want technically the best team or do you want to take advantage of an historic opportunity to build the game. There were better singers than Elvis, but he drew the crowds and put rock-and-roll on the map.
Regarding Elvis, I'm old enough to remember those years. I don't remember at the time any credit going to the African American creators of that music.
Actually, underrated stars like Chuck Berry finally got more fans and recognition after Elvis built up the fan base. Elvis always acknowledged their contributions and sang many of their songs, as did the Beatles.stu said:IMHO at the Olympics the primary goal is to win.annarborbear said:
It is always the same issue. Do you want technically the best team or do you want to take advantage of an historic opportunity to build the game. There were better singers than Elvis, but he drew the crowds and put rock-and-roll on the map.
Regarding Elvis, I'm old enough to remember those years. I don't remember at the time any credit going to the African American creators of that music.
And since Clark's All-Stars beat the Olympic team, I think she would have done just fine if on the team. Even Dawn Staley was re-thinking it.
Should be surprising but isn't: Brits from the Rolling Stones to John Mayall did a lot more than we did to build appreciation of the originators in Americans.annarborbear said:Actually, underrated stars like Chuck Berry finally got more fans and recognition after Elvis built up the fan base. Elvis always acknowledged their contributions and sang many of their songs, as did the Beatles.stu said:IMHO at the Olympics the primary goal is to win.annarborbear said:
It is always the same issue. Do you want technically the best team or do you want to take advantage of an historic opportunity to build the game. There were better singers than Elvis, but he drew the crowds and put rock-and-roll on the map.
Regarding Elvis, I'm old enough to remember those years. I don't remember at the time any credit going to the African American creators of that music.
We also don't know how she would have performed playing along side elite players. Case in point is Joel Embiid, who played nothing like he does mid-season as the key component of the Sixers. Some of that was good, some of it wasn't, but you don't have to be a basketball coach to know that her teammates would have been waay different than they are in Indiana....HoopDreams said:
Yes CC has high turnovers, but she is number 1 in the WNBA in assists, and she is an elite passer
mbBear said:We also don't know how she would have performed playing along side elite players. Case in point is Joel Embiid, who played nothing like he does mid-season as the key component of the Sixers. Some of that was good, some of it wasn't, but you don't have to be a basketball coach to know that her teammates would have been waay different than they are in Indiana....HoopDreams said:
Yes CC has high turnovers, but she is number 1 in the WNBA in assists, and she is an elite passer
The best example of how she plays with elite players is what I posted above, reposted below:
"CC had 10 assists and only 2 turnovers in the non-Olympic WNBA teams victory against the Olympic team, where they were up by 20 points or so with 10 minutes left. She could have definitely helped the team. Dokic and Wembayana and LeBron and Giannis lead the NBA in turnovers. Caitlin is one of the top players in the WNBA and will win rookie of the year."
Of course she didn't shoot well that game but was hounded defensively and set an assist record. I think Plum was picking her up full court even when she didn't have the ball. Also, late in the game, when her team was destroying the Olympic team by around 20 points, the bench was egging her on to shoot deep threes and she missed a few, which affected her shooting stats.
oski003 said:mbBear said:We also don't know how she would have performed playing along side elite players. Case in point is Joel Embiid, who played nothing like he does mid-season as the key component of the Sixers. Some of that was good, some of it wasn't, but you don't have to be a basketball coach to know that her teammates would have been waay different than they are in Indiana....HoopDreams said:
Yes CC has high turnovers, but she is number 1 in the WNBA in assists, and she is an elite passer
The best example of how she plays with elite players is what I posted above, reposted below:
"CC had 10 assists and only 2 turnovers in the non-Olympic WNBA teams victory against the Olympic team, where they were up by 20 points or so with 10 minutes left. She could have definitely helped the team. Dokic and Wembayana and LeBron and Giannis lead the NBA in turnovers. Caitlin is one of the top players in the WNBA and will win rookie of the year."
Of course she didn't shoot well that game but was hounded defensively and set an assist record. I think Plum was picking her up full court even when she didn't have the ball. Also, late in the game, when her team was destroying the Olympic team by around 20 points, the bench was egging her on to shoot deep threes and she missed a few, which affected her shooting stats.
Good points, thanks...
If you don't care about defense or turnovers, then Clark is very good. Coaches tend to care about those two aspects of the game quite a bit. (And one good game does not offset a season's worth of turnovers -- she averages two more turnovers a game than any other player in the W.)
CC is not a lockdown defender but is known as a smart off ball and help defender
But if you want to focus on defense only, she has high rebounds (6) for her point guard position and solid per game steal stats (1.5)
But don't coaches also value winning? Her Fever team is the same as last year but we're dead last in the standings
I also think she vastly improved from the season starting 10 games when they were playing a ton of games back to back
But if you want to focus on defense only, she has high rebounds (6) for her point guard position and solid per game steal stats (1.5)
But don't coaches also value winning? Her Fever team is the same as last year but we're dead last in the standings
I also think she vastly improved from the season starting 10 games when they were playing a ton of games back to back
ClayK said:
If you don't care about defense or turnovers, then Clark is very good. Coaches tend to care about those two aspects of the game quite a bit. (And one good game does not offset a season's worth of turnovers -- she averages two more turnovers a game than any other player in the W.)
HoopDreams said:
CC is not a lockdown defender but is known as a smart off ball and help defender
But if you want to focus on defense only, she has high rebounds (6) for her point guard position and solid per game steal stats (1.5)
But don't coaches also value winning? Her Fever team is the same as last year but we're dead last in the standings
I also think she vastly improved from the season starting 10 games when they were playing a ton of games back to backClayK said:
If you don't care about defense or turnovers, then Clark is very good. Coaches tend to care about those two aspects of the game quite a bit. (And one good game does not offset a season's worth of turnovers -- she averages two more turnovers a game than any other player in the W.)
Her team is #6 out of 12 in the standings. Last year they were 12 out of 12. Tonight, she put up 29 points with 50% shooting, 5 boards, and 10 assists with a +13 +/- in a 9 point victory over Olympians Taurasi, Griner, and Copper's Phoenix Mercury.
Clark is an awful off-the-ball defender, though she is getting better. (The only way to tell is to watch her, and not the ball, during numerous possessions, which I have done (what that says about me I leave up to you.)
Rebounds have little to do with defense, and in fact, if you're not playing team defense, it's actually easier to get rebounds because you are focusing on the ball, not the offensive players and their movement.
She played well last night against a tired team playing back-to-back nights. She's a brilliant shotmaker and a wonderful offensive player.
Rebounds have little to do with defense, and in fact, if you're not playing team defense, it's actually easier to get rebounds because you are focusing on the ball, not the offensive players and their movement.
She played well last night against a tired team playing back-to-back nights. She's a brilliant shotmaker and a wonderful offensive player.
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