Arizona Game Thread

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annarborbear
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Suarez with 4 TO's in first quarter,

Nice to see King getting some run.
annarborbear
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Putting some new players out on the floor is refreshing. And it is working so far.
SFCALBear72
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Donez with 2 steals!

Love the energy with the freshmen and Maul in the line-up!

Everyone is contributing. Great game experience.
BearBint
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I love the commentator's comparison of Michelle's last OR and bucket to a baby bird's reaching up to be fed.
"Don't get distracted, myself. Don't get distracted." Self-talk from a young relative
HoopDreams
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Michelle on fire

AZ in Marta's head

Bench doing good job
CalFanatic
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What do you know. We stopped turning the ball over and are now seeing success. Funny how that works =)

Go Bears!
RedlessWardrobe
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Lulu gets tomahawked on drive to the hoop and the ref just looks at it. Horrible. And Shocky , just because there's a game where the refs aren't calling it even, it doesn't necessarily mean the have a "bias" against one team. Sometimes they're just plain bad.
ethan0l
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I don't understand why Charmin doesn't just change the way we use Marta. She isn't as effective as a point forward as she would be if we put her down in the block.
ethan0l
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Yes, they are equally bad for both teams. But that can really hurt us, when we are so reliant on dominant and aggressive inside play.
BearBint
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I notice in the stats that, once again, Lola has the highest +/- (14 at half time): https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=544405

Her shooting's not great, but her vision and defense look pretty mature.
annarborbear
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Outrebounding them 21-14. Williams and Maul both going to the boards. That is helping.
Shocky1
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RedlessWardrobe said:

Lulu gets tomahawked on drive to the hoop and the ref just looks at it. Horrible. And Shocky , just because there's a game where the refs aren't calling it even, it doesn't necessarily mean the have a "bias" against one team. Sometimes they're just plain bad.
agreed, some refs are bad but almost universally they are not biased

michelle also went into a vertical blocking position on a wildcat drive to the bucket, there wuz a lotta lower body contact but no foul

it wuz clearly a foul on onyiah, if the refs call this 3rd foul on her, the 2nd half outlooks looks quite a big different

the refs are not the issue re: the cal wbb & have never been the issue
annarborbear
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Hope that we won't be afraid to make the same type of substitutions that we made in the first half.
Shocky1
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cal's pg just intuitionally tried to run threw the wildcat post player causing her to fall backwards & almost become concussed

that would be a technical with most refs, the bears lucky to only get a common foul
CalFanatic
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Michelle can't miss! 22 points
ethan0l
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Why do these announcers feel like they chose to cheer against Cal in both games in this tournament? They seemed to be in the bag for both Michigan State and now UA.
CalFanatic
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Twidale takes a hard charge. Not sure if she'll see action for the remainder of the game..... looks like she was walking to the training room?

Big sigh of relief. Lulu's back in
ethan0l
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Maul looks good. And when we got Noble back that'd be great too. When is Langarita expected to be ready to go?

Our depth right now is too dependent on unproven freshmen but that might get better during the season.
CalFanatic
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Great answer against U of A. Rest up and get ready for #22 Alabama next week.

25 and 13 for Onyiah!

18 for Lulu

10 for Maul
gwashburn14
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They certainly loved Jada Williams. We heard a lot about her.
BearBint
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Palms of Victory! (As symbolized by Charmin riding off the court on Michelle's back.)
gljone
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Nice bounce back win.

I hope Marta takes this the right way - she needs to be better. And she's fully capable. She just needs to understand her limitations. Only 19 minutes, not in the closing lineup and the only Bear that was a minus. This should get her attention.

Kayla had a nice line...except for the 5 TOs. She too has to make better decisions but some of those happen because sometimes her teammates don't give her timely options.

The team as a whole has to get better with limiting TOs.

-11 in FGAs although a bit offset by the FT margin.

Michelle with a monster game. Although I only saw some of the 4Q, Maul was in there and looks like she had a good game. Good for her!

Hope Lulu comes out of this game in good shape. If I had to guess, Noble had her bell rung in the Auburn game - I would think this the reason she's wasn't playing.

Nice to see a postgame discussion of the game on TV.
Schroeder71
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I was wrong on the outcome but most of the issues that I discussed happened. I have not watched the game, yet. I'll watch it tonight. It appears that Cal dominated inside because Arizona's top scorer and rebounder, 6-4 Cunningham, DNP! Onyiah took advantage as high scorer and rebounder of the game. Bears won at the free throw line. The Wildcat's defense forced 21 turnovers and held 3 of the Bear's 4 double-digit scorers on the season to single digit points. For the third consecutive game, they shutdown Krimili. She only had a single basket!

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cal drew so many 'Zona personal fouls. Also, I cannot believe that Maul turned her game around and contributed a key ten points to the victory. It appears that Charmin sat Suarez to send her a message that she is responsible for her actions (turnovers) out there. Backup post Ackerman also did not see PT.

Bears are 7-1. GO BEARS!.
Bear8995
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Shocky1 said:

cal's pg just intuitionally tried to run threw the wildcat post player causing her to fall backwards & almost become concussed

that would be a technical with most refs, the bears lucky to only get a common foul
I disagree. It was a flop IMO. No one falls with the upper part of one's body first like that. Kayla didn't hit her hard enough for that type of reaction. I wouldn't have called anything there.
SFCALBear72
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Shout out to Michelle with a career high 25 points!

Credit the bench for getting us back into the game in the 2nd quarter and ahead by six at halftime.

A second shout out to Gisella Maul who came off the bench and scored 10 points including a clutch 3-pointer!



Sidebar: Let's back off on some of the criticism of Kayla Williams. She hardly played last season at U$C. Charmin has given her new life and she knows her role. I'm a big fan!!
CalWSportsFan
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I second that! Go Bears.
Shocky1
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Bear8995 said:

Shocky1 said:

cal's pg just intuitionally tried to run threw the wildcat post player causing her to fall backwards & almost become concussed

that would be a technical with most refs, the bears lucky to only get a common foul
I disagree. It was a flop IMO. No one falls with the upper part of one's body first like that. Kayla didn't hit her hard enough for that type of reaction. I wouldn't have called anything there.
that's a dumb azz take, the wildcat wuz in concussion protocol the rest of the game & never returned

u might need to get to america's best if u thought that violent collision ignited by kayla wuz a flop...but if ur just a homer who thinks the refs are corrupt on every questionable call that's ur prerogative
RedlessWardrobe
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Schroeder71 said:

I was wrong on the outcome but most of the issues that I discussed happened. I have not watched the game, yet. I'll watch it tonight. It appears that Cal dominated inside because Arizona's top scorer and rebounder, 6-4 Cunningham, DNP! Onyiah took advantage as high scorer and rebounder of the game. Bears won at the free throw line. The Wildcat's defense forced 21 turnovers and held 3 of the Bear's 4 double-digit scorers on the season to single digit points. For the third consecutive game, they shutdown Krimili. She only had a single basket!

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cal drew so many 'Zona personal fouls. Also, I cannot believe that Maul turned her game around and contributed a key ten points to the victory. It appears that Charmin sat Suarez to send her a message that she is responsible for her actions (turnovers) out there

Bears are 7-1. GO BEARS!.
Let me clue you in. Arizona was determined not to let our 3 point shooters go hog wild. What Charmin did was switch to a 4 guard lineup that was able to negotiate several good lobs into Michele. Michele scored the points, but in the half court offense our guards looked sharp on their passing more often than not.
annarborbear
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We have played eight games, won seven, and have had only one really bad quarter out of 32. I see progress. And when one player has a bad game or is game-planned against, we have options, including with some developing bench players.

The biggest issue is Marta. She is trying to play beyond her skill level. I doubt you can simply coach that out of her. It is going to have to come from within.

Can we beat highly-ranked Alabama? I doubt it. But that's what upsets are for.
Schroeder71
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I think that you have it reversed. Arizona's best player, their center, did not play so the Wildcats used a four guard lineup. Charmin Smith responded to their lineup and that is probably why Ackerman did not play and Suarez was not needed to rebound. I haven't watched the game yet but the Bears had 21 turnovers that led to 25 Wildcat points. How can you state that our guards looked sharp on their passing with horrific stats like that? Cal has in excess of 20 turnovers for at least the last four consecutive games.
wvitbear
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Ackerman is banged up. She didn't play well last game.
Californication
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total flop, obvious to anyone with vision. yes, there was some contact and maybe a foul on Cal, but she never extended her arms once they came together. the true dumb azz was the wildcat who flopped so hard she was in concussion protocol.
gljone
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Michigan State just took down Vanderbilt...so the four teams are now 26-3.

Spartans had another dominant 4th quarter.

Good tournament - not really any weak teams.

RedlessWardrobe
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Schroeder71 said:

I think that you have it reversed. Arizona's best player, their center, did not play so the Wildcats used a four guard lineup. Charmin Smith responded to their lineup and that is probably why Ackerman did not play and Suarez was not needed to rebound. I haven't watched the game yet but the Bears had 21 turnovers that led to 25 Wildcat points. How can you state that our guards looked sharp on their passing with horrific stats like that? Cal has in excess of 20 turnovers for at least the last four consecutive games.
With all due respect, coming to conclusions based on stats only without watching the game isn't really the best approach.

Like Vin Scully said, "Statistics are like girls in bikinis. They show a lot, but they don't show everything."
Shocky1
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haha, ok, bears won so let's just agree that the wildkat is a wannabe world federation wrestler wannabe/actress!!

the fact that she got hit so hard that she's concussed won't really matter with the big 12 truck stop academics in tuscon
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