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Last: 10 yr ago by ClayK
On the contrary, it may make the draw stronger, as Sabrina was her AAU teammate and Sopek was her AAU coach.
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Congrats to Natalie Romeo on her commitment 2 @coachneighbors & @UW_WBB #onetwostars #boom #zoom
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Congrats to Natalie Romeo on her commitment 2 @coachneighbors & @UW_WBB #onetwostars #boom #zoom
Will this have any effect on Cayton? Less likely to stay at Nebraska?
I really don't think she's staying at Nebraska regardless
Good, I'd love to see her at Cal. Do you know if she'll decide this week?
stu;842689650 said:
Good, I'd love to see her at Cal. Do you know if she'll decide this week?
I would think so. If not, soon after.
Word is that Washington is pushing for immediate eligibility for Romeo.
In the meantime, check out the Husky gear for Sopak
In the meantime, check out the Husky gear for Sopak
MoragaBear;842689757 said:
Word is that Washington is pushing for immediate eligibility for Romeo.
In the meantime, check out the Husky gear for Sopak
Looks to me like an honest broker objectively looking out for the best interests of his student athletes. What a guy.
SFCALBear72;842689626 said:
In your opinion, does this commitment impact Ionescu's decision regarding UW and Oregon? Does it push her more towards Oregon?
The question should be does Coach Neighbors want Ionescu bad enough to offer her high school coach a job? What kind of money would they throw to Sopak to land Sabrina?
Isn't that the last real domino to fall? Would you want to go to a college under those circumstances that some may think you were part of a deal?
Really would have like to seen Romeo.
Looks to me like an honest broker objectively looking out for the best interests of his student athletes. What a guy.
uhh, Which guy? The one who is interviewing or the one who wants Romeo to play right away? LOL!
Clay and /or Moraga, what is the read from Miramonte or CAL Stars on possibly losing a coach? I am surprised someone like you has not asked. The word on the street and coffee shop?
uhh, Which guy? The one who is interviewing or the one who wants Romeo to play right away? LOL!
Clay and /or Moraga, what is the read from Miramonte or CAL Stars on possibly losing a coach? I am surprised someone like you has not asked. The word on the street and coffee shop?
Let's not be talking about throwing money anyone's way. A Pac-12 collegiate job is enough of an enticement to give a hs coach to make a move without risking major sanctions with payoffs for delivering players. And maybe it's enough to get his star player, too. They're pretty tight and comfort level is of major importance to Sabrina.
MoragaBear;842689787 said:
Let's not be talking about throwing money anyone's way. A Pac-12 collegiate job is enough of an enticement to give a hs coach to make a move without risking major sanctions with payoffs for delivering players. And maybe it's enough to get his star player, too. They're pretty tight and comfort level is of major importance to Sabrina.
You and I and the board knows that fine line but the average Joe full of general perceptions is going to say uhhhh, rrrrright which is unfortunate for those involved all around. The comfort level is obviously important but for continued growth parting ways and growing up may be better in a players growth and development. It could even create certain team issues and a situation at Washington that could complicate matters with your high school coach on board and a head coach running the show. Get my drift?
It really is a shame but maybe it is my lingering disappointment but it seems like the whole show now is a little tainted. And shame on Coach Sopak for not pushing for a quicker decision for sake of Cal Stars and Miramonte. Everyone should be concerned of a pipe line getting established directly to Seattle. That is my biggest concern at this point. Certainly the winners here are fewer and farther between as this drags out longer.
It's not his position to push his players into anything. That would be irresponsible.
And I really don't see any difference between a program offering a preferred walk-on slot way ahead of when those things are normally determined to a star recruit's very average (prior to this season) brother, with vague promises of potential future scholarships vs. hiring one of the most successful high school and AAU coaches in the country, whether it's to get an AAU pipeline or increasing the likelihood of getting his star player plus a star transfer.
I don't like either of them, personally.
And I really don't see any difference between a program offering a preferred walk-on slot way ahead of when those things are normally determined to a star recruit's very average (prior to this season) brother, with vague promises of potential future scholarships vs. hiring one of the most successful high school and AAU coaches in the country, whether it's to get an AAU pipeline or increasing the likelihood of getting his star player plus a star transfer.
I don't like either of them, personally.
MoragaBear;842689842 said:
It's not his position to push his players into anything. That would be irresponsible.
And I really don't see any difference between a program offering a preferred walk-on slot way ahead of when those things are normally determined to a star recruit's very average (prior to this season) brother, with vague promises of potential future scholarships vs. hiring one of the most successful high school and AAU coaches in the country, whether it's to get an AAU pipeline or increasing the likelihood of getting his star player plus a star transfer.
I don't like either of them, personally.
If my kid's coach just happened to be offered a job at the school that my kid just happened to be recruited by, I would tell both that coach and that school where to go. If a coach can't make it on his own merits, he shouldn't think that he is going to be able to use my kid in that way.
MoragaBear;842689842 said:
It's not his position to push his players into anything. That would be irresponsible.
And I really don't see any difference between a program offering a preferred walk-on slot way ahead of when those things are normally determined to a star recruit's very average (prior to this season) brother, with vague promises of potential future scholarships vs. hiring one of the most successful high school and AAU coaches in the country, whether it's to get an AAU pipeline or increasing the likelihood of getting his star player plus a star transfer.
I don't like either of them, personally.
Under normal circumstances I would say that is correct in his position unless you knew that person was particularly vulnerable in wanting to please you. That in itself would be irresponsible if you knew that were to be the case.
annarborbear;842689866 said:
If my kid's coach just happened to be offered a job at the school that my kid just happened to be recruited by, I would tell both that coach and that school where to go. If a coach can't make it on his own merits, he shouldn't think that he is going to be able to use my kid in that way.
THank you. You said it more eloquent than I ever could. The difference is where are mom and dad in all of this? I know where you would be if it was your kid. You seem to be an involved parent. Especially if the kid is heavy influenced to please that coach.
Sabrina's not the vulnerable type. She'll do what she thinks is best for her, not her coach. She doesn't need him to tell her to make up her mind faster or publicly announce sooner.
The talk is that she won't announce till June now. I suspect that's when she'll know if Sopak's making a move up to UW and factor that into her decision. I also would be very surprised if they hire him at UW and she didn't end up there, too, with their strong, longtime connection.
The talk is that she won't announce till June now. I suspect that's when she'll know if Sopak's making a move up to UW and factor that into her decision. I also would be very surprised if they hire him at UW and she didn't end up there, too, with their strong, longtime connection.
As for the timing, until Adia Barnes and Fred Castro were hired for head coaching jobs, there were no openings on the Washington staff. That happened relatively recently ...
And along that line, I don't know what would happen to Cal Stars, which is a huge operation with many teams. Presumably Bernard Barnes would take over the top team, but as for the administration, etc., that's a big question.
In terms of Miramonte, it would be a major issue, because the school would have to go through the hiring process. That won't happen during summer vacation, most likely, because administrators take their time off then, and people just aren't around. Presumably, they'd start in August sometime, but even then, it's a crapshoot. Acalanes had won 44 games in the last two years and the coach left, and he was replaced by a young woman who had a 6-61 record at Kennedy of Fremont the past three seasons. Now she may turn out to be just fine, but the coaching talent pool will be pretty shallow if Miramonte doesn't hire until August, though again, Bernard Barnes would be a strong candidate. Still, administrators often have certain agendas and priorities than players, parents and fans don't necessarily share.
And along that line, I don't know what would happen to Cal Stars, which is a huge operation with many teams. Presumably Bernard Barnes would take over the top team, but as for the administration, etc., that's a big question.
In terms of Miramonte, it would be a major issue, because the school would have to go through the hiring process. That won't happen during summer vacation, most likely, because administrators take their time off then, and people just aren't around. Presumably, they'd start in August sometime, but even then, it's a crapshoot. Acalanes had won 44 games in the last two years and the coach left, and he was replaced by a young woman who had a 6-61 record at Kennedy of Fremont the past three seasons. Now she may turn out to be just fine, but the coaching talent pool will be pretty shallow if Miramonte doesn't hire until August, though again, Bernard Barnes would be a strong candidate. Still, administrators often have certain agendas and priorities than players, parents and fans don't necessarily share.
Right now, hearing all this, I'm just like, whatever.
The whole NCAA "amateur" thing is a joke.
The rules around how recruiting works is a joke.
The NCAA big wigs, whether they be athletic departments or head coaches or administrators, make tons of money while the talent makes none.
Everyone should just go get what they can. If it's a job, if it's a walk-on spot, if it's money under the table, fine, go for it - I don't care.
I wish it were money above the table, but they want to set up a system where that can't be, so fine... do what you want.
#jaded
The whole NCAA "amateur" thing is a joke.
The rules around how recruiting works is a joke.
The NCAA big wigs, whether they be athletic departments or head coaches or administrators, make tons of money while the talent makes none.
Everyone should just go get what they can. If it's a job, if it's a walk-on spot, if it's money under the table, fine, go for it - I don't care.
I wish it were money above the table, but they want to set up a system where that can't be, so fine... do what you want.
#jaded
ClayK;842689923 said:
As for the timing, until Adia Barnes and Fred Castro were hired for head coaching jobs, there were no openings on the Washington staff. That happened relatively recently ...
And along that line, I don't know what would happen to Cal Stars, which is a huge operation with many teams. Presumably Bernard Butler would take over the top team, but as for the administration, etc., that's a big question.
In terms of Miramonte, it would be a major issue, because the school would have to go through the hiring process. That won't happen during summer vacation, most likely, because administrators take their time off then, and people just aren't around. Presumably, they'd start in August sometime, but even then, it's a crapshoot. Acalanes had won 44 games in the last two years and the coach left, and he was replaced by a young woman who had a 6-61 record at Kennedy of Fremont the past three seasons. Now she may turn out to be just fine, but the coaching talent pool will be pretty shallow if Miramonte doesn't hire until August, though again, Bernard Butler would be a strong candidate. Still, administrators often have certain agendas and priorities than players, parents and fans don't necessarily share.
I've seen such jobs posted in the Contra Costa Times. There's no reason it has to be a "major" thing at all.
MHS is a public hs. Big deal.
Let's stop making high school sports into something bigger than it should be.
Academics first, please.
Athletics is a 50-50 proposition, in terms of wins and losses, and 99% of the participants are going to end their involvement upon graduation. Academics, however, continue for life. I'm not against athletics as a source of good health, life lessons, etc (quite FOR IT, actually), but the excessive focus our society places on youth sports is at times nauseating. It doesn't really matter how "good" we collectively become at the activity - what is important is simply that we DO it. If everyone gets better and better at a sport, such that our relative competitiveness doesn't change, what has been gained? Since most will never suit up again anyways.
Back to Romeo: [URL="http://newschannelnebraska.com/huskers-news/its-official-natalie-romeo-leaves-huskers-transfers-to-washington/"][COLOR="#0000FF"]Nebraska story[/COLOR][/URL]
concordtom;842689987 said:
I've seen such jobs posted in the Contra Costa Times. There's no reason it has to be a "major" thing at all.
MHS is a public hs. Big deal.
Let's stop making high school sports into something bigger than it should be.
Academics first, please.
Athletics is a 50-50 proposition, in terms of wins and losses, and 99% of the participants are going to end their involvement upon graduation. Academics, however, continue for life. I'm not against athletics as a source of good health, life lessons, etc (quite FOR IT, actually), but the excessive focus our society places on youth sports is at times nauseating. It doesn't really matter how "good" we collectively become at the activity - what is important is simply that we DO it. If everyone gets better and better at a sport, such that our relative competitiveness doesn't change, what has been gained? Since most will never suit up again anyways.
Tom, I get what you are saying but get a load of this article and we are just talking about a coaching position search at Miramonte.
http://nbc4i.com/2016/05/16/voters-approve-63-million-for-high-school-football-stadium-in-texas/
GOLDEN;842690053 said:
Tom, I get what you are saying but get a load of this article
Wow! Yet another reason I don't live in Texas.
stu;842690049 said:
Back to Romeo: [URL="http://newschannelnebraska.com/huskers-news/its-official-natalie-romeo-leaves-huskers-transfers-to-washington/"][COLOR="#0000FF"]Nebraska story[/COLOR][/URL]
I realize the source - but that story does not put Romeo in a good light.
ncbears;842690164 said:
I realize the source - but that story does not put Romeo in a good light.
She stood up for the former coach and criticized some teammates who didn't. Whether that's good, bad, or indifferent it's probably best for all concerned that she left Nebraska.
As for Romeo, where would you rather live -- Seattle or Lincoln?
As for the state of college sports, it is a huge, huge business, plain and simple, that is based on the essentially unpaid, indentured labor of athletes who in some cases are only nominal students. The system is designed to keep that labor pool ignorant of what's actually happening (note the recruiting process and the LOI) as well as preserve freedom of movement for coaches and administrators so that they can extract the maximum amount of money possible from the industry.
Colleges go along with the system because it generates branding, free marketing and tremendous alumni support (the financial "losses" reported on occasion do not take into account increased enrollment, alumni interest and other ancillary income).
(Sabrina Ionescu is one of the very few young athletes to work outside the system and refuse to play the recruiting game -- though she will become part of the system whenever she signs an aid agreement and enrolls in either Oregon or Washington.)
In the end, fans have to come to terms with the sordid reality (and I chose the word "sordid" carefully) that college athletics at the highest level are professional sports that operate without paying the work force what it deserves, and also binds those workers to restrictive contracts that limit their freedom and ability to negotiate with their employers. Once you accept that, you can enjoy the games for what they are, and hope for reform that eventually allows the labor force the same rights and privileges as their much better-compensated supervisors.
As for the state of college sports, it is a huge, huge business, plain and simple, that is based on the essentially unpaid, indentured labor of athletes who in some cases are only nominal students. The system is designed to keep that labor pool ignorant of what's actually happening (note the recruiting process and the LOI) as well as preserve freedom of movement for coaches and administrators so that they can extract the maximum amount of money possible from the industry.
Colleges go along with the system because it generates branding, free marketing and tremendous alumni support (the financial "losses" reported on occasion do not take into account increased enrollment, alumni interest and other ancillary income).
(Sabrina Ionescu is one of the very few young athletes to work outside the system and refuse to play the recruiting game -- though she will become part of the system whenever she signs an aid agreement and enrolls in either Oregon or Washington.)
In the end, fans have to come to terms with the sordid reality (and I chose the word "sordid" carefully) that college athletics at the highest level are professional sports that operate without paying the work force what it deserves, and also binds those workers to restrictive contracts that limit their freedom and ability to negotiate with their employers. Once you accept that, you can enjoy the games for what they are, and hope for reform that eventually allows the labor force the same rights and privileges as their much better-compensated supervisors.
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