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When did Trump call the pandemic a hoax?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721

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BearForce2 said:

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When did Trump call the pandemic a hoax?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721

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I could see why he pisses of the Democrats and some Republicans. So good, unmatched.
Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

You lie as much as your crush does. It won't help. He will never notice you. No matter how horny you are for him, Trump will never be your boyfriend.

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You lie as much as your crush does. It won't help. He will never notice you. No matter how horny you are for him, Trump will never be your boyfriend.

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horny? Trump incites your erection.

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

BearFarce2 dreams of meeting Trump...

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support. It turns out they elected a leader that said there's nothing he can do about it.

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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BearFarce2 dreams of meeting Trump...

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Moderators, please send this post to the BEARINSIDER CLASSIC POSTS HALL OF FAME!



*His running gait may be the funniest thing in movie history

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word 'hoax' but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration's handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself."

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media's coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a 'new hoax.'"

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word 'hoax' but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration's handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself."

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media's coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a 'new hoax.'"

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That's not the question I asked. He called something a hoax. What was the hoax?

Looks to me like he was saying the Democrats' claims about the virus were a hoax. Only they were not a hoax. The Dems were right about how bad COVID was.

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sycasey said:

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BearForce2 said:

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word 'hoax' but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration's handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself."

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media's coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a 'new hoax.'"

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I'm glad to see that you now accept Snopes and the Washington Post as legitimate fact-checking outfits, though. Not just the lying liberal media anymore? I'll try to remember that for later.

If we had a BI Off Topic referee, I think he'd be giving BF2 a standing eight count about now.

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word 'hoax' but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration's handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself."

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media's coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a 'new hoax.'"

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I'm glad to see that you now accept Snopes and the Washington Post as legitimate fact-checking outfits, though. Not just the lying liberal media anymore? I'll try to remember that for later.

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No, I don't trust them but you do.

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If we had a BI Off Topic referee, I think he'd be giving BF2 a standing eight count about now.

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Btw, Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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So it's another example of him downplaying the severity of the pandemic in the critical early days, thanks for admitting that.

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Trump meant that the Democrats politicizing the virus is a hoax, not the virus itself.

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Yes, he was trying to say the virus was not as bad as the Democrats were saying it would be. Turns out the Democrats were right.

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He said the Democrats were going to use the virus to gain political support.

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I don't think that's what "hoax" means.

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I don't think Trump called the pandemic a hoax.

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Okay, but he used the word, right? So what was the hoax? A hoax is something people say is true but is not true. What did he mean?

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Factcheck.org: "Trump did use the word 'hoax' but his full comments, and subsequent explanation, make clear he was talking about Democratic attacks on his administration's handling of the outbreak, not the virus itself."

The Washington Post Fact Checker: "The context of the full quote shows Trump criticized Democratic talking points and media's coverage of his response to the coronavirus, but does not call the virus itself a hoax."

Snopes: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus a hoax."

AP Fact Check: "The accusation is misleading. So is the selective video editing that made it appear Trump was calling the coronavirus a 'new hoax.'"

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I'm glad to see that you now accept Snopes and the Washington Post as legitimate fact-checking outfits, though. Not just the lying liberal media anymore? I'll try to remember that for later.

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No, I don't trust them but you do.

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Oh okay. Then I also trust them when they say these things:

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Trump did however downplay the scale of the virus and the danger it posed to the public. At the time he made his remarks, the U.S. had 57 confirmed coronavirus cases, 40 of which came from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which experienced an outbreak of the virus. And health officials were warning that the spread of the virus domestically was "inevitable."

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Trump certainly played down the virus and played up his administration's response. On Thursday, one of Vice President Pence's top aides on the coronavirus task force said Trump called the virus a hoax in a video ad, in which she also said Trump's response to the pandemic showed a "flat-out disregard for human life."

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This would seem to support my original point that Trump tried to downplay the severity of the virus and did not level with the public and tell them things would get worse before they got better, as you claimed. He did not specifically say the virus itself was a hoax, i will grant you that. He just said that criticisms of his administration's handling of it were a hoax (criticisms that have largely been proven right).

Yogi used to stalk me, you too?

All Biden has to do is one up Fauci and say wear 3 masks instead of 2 to slow down the virus. You heard it here first, folks.

People have started calling the vaccine the Fauci Ouchie. I love this on so many levels.

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All Biden has to do is one up Fauci and say wear 3 masks instead of 2 to slow down the virus. You heard it here first, folks.

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Yogi used to stalk me, you too?

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Yogi stalks me a bit too, yes.

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That guy is a walking disaster. He should never come near the Presidency.

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Your team talks out of both sides of your mouth. All I heard on the golf course for months from my tRumpist playing partners was that the Covid deaths were being grossly overstated for two reasons:
1. To get tRump out of office; and
2. Fraudulent doctors misclassifying deaths as Covid related so that they could get government reimbursement.*

I told them at the time that Covid deaths were undoubtedly being under reported (a fact seemingly corroborated today by a report that 40,000 more Californians died in 2020 than 2019 but only 26,000 officially got tagged as Covid),

Do you guys really think that you can change your story 180 degrees within a few months time and no one is going to notice?


*My golfing colleagues were getting this nonsense from Fox News as well as their targeted FaceBook news feeds. A couple of them have made damn sure they took every advantage available to them to get that first vaccination shot.

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Your team talks out of both sides of your mouth. All I heard on the golf course for months from my tRumpist playing partners was that the Covid deaths were being grossly overstated for two reasons:
1. To get tRump out of office; and
2. Fraudulent doctors misclassifying deaths as Covid related so that they could get government reimbursement.*

I told them at the time that Covid deaths were undoubtedly being under reported (a fact seemingly corroborated today by a report that 40,000 more Californians died in 2020 than 2019 but only 26,000 officially got tagged as Covid),

Do you guys really think that you can change your story 180 degrees within a few months time and no one is going to notice?


*My golfing colleagues were getting this nonsense from Fox News as well as their targeted FaceBook news feeds. A couple of them have made damn sure they took every advantage available to them to get that first vaccination shot.

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No doubt both sides will politicize Covid, now it's the GOP's turn to play. But Cuomo had the nerve to criticize Trump while this crap was going on under his nose.

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Your team talks out of both sides of your mouth. All I heard on the golf course for months from my tRumpist playing partners was that the Covid deaths were being grossly overstated for two reasons:
1. To get tRump out of office; and
2. Fraudulent doctors misclassifying deaths as Covid related so that they could get government reimbursement.*

I told them at the time that Covid deaths were undoubtedly being under reported (a fact seemingly corroborated today by a report that 40,000 more Californians died in 2020 than 2019 but only 26,000 officially got tagged as Covid),

Do you guys really think that you can change your story 180 degrees within a few months time and no one is going to notice?


*My golfing colleagues were getting this nonsense from Fox News as well as their targeted FaceBook news feeds. A couple of them have made damn sure they took every advantage available to them to get that first vaccination shot.

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No doubt both sides will politicize Covid, now it's the GOP's turn to play. But Cuomo had the nerve to criticize Trump while this crap was going on under his nose.

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Not only that. While the media was fawning he wrote a book extolling his Covid response and cashed in while he could. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-pandemics-new-york-andrew-cuomo-7a32db5185b86a62d1accfce147f564e