The Senate is proving itself to be a laughingstock of a legislative body completely opposed to the concept of "government of the people, by the people, for the people". It was designed to be a bulwark against the will of the American people by the slaveowning founders in the 1700's and that role is even stronger today. The original role of the Senate to empower wealthy landowning whites moves forward to this day, to the disgrace of our nation

After threatening to prevent the transfer of power in the Senate to Democrats, which McConnell had the power to do because the Senate is absurd, McConnell is now threatening that if Democrats implement rules to his disliking he will essentially shut down the Senate, which he has the power to do because the Senate is absurd. Just by constantly demanding quorum calls the Senate can be ground to a halt, because the Senate is absurd, and that is exactly what McConnell threatens to do.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-warns-of-scorched-earth-post-nuclear-senate-promises-nightmare-if-dems-end-filibuster

The Senate is the enemy of the American people. Democrats in the Senate represent 41 million more people than Republicans in the Senate. But that is not enough for legislation. Most legislation requires all the Democrats plus 10 Republicans. And the Senate can't be fixed without the consent of the minority of Americans that it empowers. In other words, a tyranny that can't be broken without the consent of the tyrant.

This is the U.S.Constitution. It is broken. The American people need to recognize that fact.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22215728/senate-anti-democratic-one-number-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff-georgia-runoffs

I agree, impeachment is a joke.

Charlie Kirk is a moron. And so are you.

This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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The impeachment is incredibly important.

Remove Trump from the equation.

Just consider a generic President who has lost re-election and is about to be removed from office. If she attempts a coup to stay in power, under the Republican methodology she will have no negative consequences. If the coup succeeds she will be in power and have no negative consequences. If the coup fails, she will be out of power but have no negative consequences because now she is a private citizen so who cares, or something like that.

How long can a Republic stand if there is no negative and only positive consequences for trying to end that Republic?

dajo9 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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The impeachment is incredibly important.

Remove Trump from the equation.

Just consider a generic President who has lost re-election and is about to be removed from office. If she attempts a coup to stay in power, under the Republican methodology she will have no negative consequences. If the coup succeeds she will be in power and have no negative consequences. If the coup fails, she will be out of power but have no negative consequences because now she is a private citizen so who cares, or something like that.

How long can a Republic stand if there is no negative and only positive consequences for trying to end that Republic?

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There was no coup.

45 spineless hypocrites with their lips attached to Trump's arse. You must be jealous.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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The impeachment is incredibly important.

Remove Trump from the equation.

Just consider a generic President who has lost re-election and is about to be removed from office. If she attempts a coup to stay in power, under the Republican methodology she will have no negative consequences. If the coup succeeds she will be in power and have no negative consequences. If the coup fails, she will be out of power but have no negative consequences because now she is a private citizen so who cares, or something like that.

How long can a Republic stand if there is no negative and only positive consequences for trying to end that Republic?

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Just realize you are talking to a guy who was cheerleading the mob as they were spreading feces on the wall of the Capitol. He wants the Republic to fall.

MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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Well, now I know where YOU stand.

President seeds lies and a Capitol riot, but you want him off on an imagined technicality - and then immediately move to criticize the other side.

Very pathetic.

OaktownBear said:

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dajo9 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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The impeachment is incredibly important.

Remove Trump from the equation.

Just consider a generic President who has lost re-election and is about to be removed from office. If she attempts a coup to stay in power, under the Republican methodology she will have no negative consequences. If the coup succeeds she will be in power and have no negative consequences. If the coup fails, she will be out of power but have no negative consequences because now she is a private citizen so who cares, or something like that.

How long can a Republic stand if there is no negative and only positive consequences for trying to end that Republic?

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Just realize you are talking to a guy who was cheerleading the mob as they were spreading feces on the wall of the Capitol. He wants the Republic to fall.

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Personally, I think tanks would work better than horns and feces to topple the Republic.

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AunBear89 said:

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Charlie Kirk is a moron. And so are you.

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Paul is counting on most Americans being as stupid as people who think he is smart.

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A person really has to ask himself this question:
Is it a good idea to look to a man for wisdom that wears a dead ferret on his head and created his own medical board so that he could board certify himself?

Biden should give the neighbor that kicked Rand Paul's a$$ the Medal of Freedom. Now that would be a Big Swinging D@ick move.



*Rand is a walking sh@it stain of a human being:

The Recklessness of Rand Paul, Coronavirus Patient - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/rand-paul-coronavirus-test-reckless/608593/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/608593/

MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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What would you and your ilk have said/done if Obama and Hillary had proclaimed the 2016 election was a fraud, brought dozens of frivolous suits before judges, vaguely threaten Secretaries of States' that they'd better "find votes" to overturn election results and incited a mob to attack the Capitol where electoral votes were in the process of being certified? And all this resulting in several deaths and suicides. I have a good idea what your reaction would've been if it was Democrats who attacked the very heart of our Democracy.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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What would you and your ilk have said/done if Obama and Hillary had proclaimed the 2016 election was a fraud....

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Fweedom Baby said:

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dajo9 said:

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The Senate is proving itself to be a laughingstock of a legislative body completely opposed to the concept of "government of the people, by the people, for the people". It was designed to be a bulwark against the will of the American people by the slaveowning founders in the 1700's and that role is even stronger today. The original role of the Senate to empower wealthy landowning whites moves forward to this day, to the disgrace of our nation

After threatening to prevent the transfer of power in the Senate to Democrats, which McConnell had the power to do because the Senate is absurd, McConnell is now threatening that if Democrats implement rules to his disliking he will essentially shut down the Senate, which he has the power to do because the Senate is absurd. Just by constantly demanding quorum calls the Senate can be ground to a halt, because the Senate is absurd, and that is exactly what McConnell threatens to do.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-warns-of-scorched-earth-post-nuclear-senate-promises-nightmare-if-dems-end-filibuster

The Senate is the enemy of the American people. Democrats in the Senate represent 41 million more people than Republicans in the Senate. But that is not enough for legislation. Most legislation requires all the Democrats plus 10 Republicans. And the Senate can't be fixed without the consent of the minority of Americans that it empowers. In other words, a tyranny that can't be broken without the consent of the tyrant.

This is the U.S.Constitution. It is broken. The American people need to recognize that fact.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22215728/senate-anti-democratic-one-number-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff-georgia-runoffs

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Take it up with the Democrats, Karen. They had the chance to end the filibuster and passed.

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Karen. Original.

Conservative Democrats from West Virginia and Arizona are preventing that. How many conservative Democrats are out there nationally? Not many. Yet, because the Senate and U.S. Constitution empower states over people, they call the shots and are able to override the will of the American people. The most undemocratic legislative body in the semi-free world.

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https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/99762/replies/1834248

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Now that $2,000 checks have been blocked in the Republican Senate, the only hope for them is if the two Democrats win in Georgia and the Senate flips Democratic.

If Republicans hold the Senate there will be no $2,000 checks as Trump and Pelosi and Biden would like.

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Now the Democrats hold the Senate, there aren't any checks, and you're still crying about how the Senate keeps the Democrats from doing anything.

The Democrats are why the Democrats aren't doing anything, of course, but you're too stupid to see that.

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You're too stupid to know the difference between Joe Manchin and 90% of Democrats. I've been fighting the likes of Joe Manchin since before you decided to deign to get involved in politics.

Because we won in Georgia there is hope for Covid relief. Now we have to overcome the couple of overly empowered conservative Democrats in the Senate.

You hope the conservatives win though. You don't want Covid relief. You want to see Dems lose.

dajo9 said:

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Democrats Suck said:

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dajo9 said:

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Fweedom Baby said:

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dajo9 said:

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The Senate is proving itself to be a laughingstock of a legislative body completely opposed to the concept of "government of the people, by the people, for the people". It was designed to be a bulwark against the will of the American people by the slaveowning founders in the 1700's and that role is even stronger today. The original role of the Senate to empower wealthy landowning whites moves forward to this day, to the disgrace of our nation

After threatening to prevent the transfer of power in the Senate to Democrats, which McConnell had the power to do because the Senate is absurd, McConnell is now threatening that if Democrats implement rules to his disliking he will essentially shut down the Senate, which he has the power to do because the Senate is absurd. Just by constantly demanding quorum calls the Senate can be ground to a halt, because the Senate is absurd, and that is exactly what McConnell threatens to do.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-warns-of-scorched-earth-post-nuclear-senate-promises-nightmare-if-dems-end-filibuster

The Senate is the enemy of the American people. Democrats in the Senate represent 41 million more people than Republicans in the Senate. But that is not enough for legislation. Most legislation requires all the Democrats plus 10 Republicans. And the Senate can't be fixed without the consent of the minority of Americans that it empowers. In other words, a tyranny that can't be broken without the consent of the tyrant.

This is the U.S.Constitution. It is broken. The American people need to recognize that fact.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22215728/senate-anti-democratic-one-number-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff-georgia-runoffs

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Take it up with the Democrats, Karen. They had the chance to end the filibuster and passed.

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Karen. Original.

Conservative Democrats from West Virginia and Arizona are preventing that. How many conservative Democrats are out there nationally? Not many. Yet, because the Senate and U.S. Constitution empower states over people, they call the shots and are able to override the will of the American people. The most undemocratic legislative body in the semi-free world.

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https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/99762/replies/1834248

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Now that $2,000 checks have been blocked in the Republican Senate, the only hope for them is if the two Democrats win in Georgia and the Senate flips Democratic.

If Republicans hold the Senate there will be no $2,000 checks as Trump and Pelosi and Biden would like.

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Now the Democrats hold the Senate, there aren't any checks, and you're still crying about how the Senate keeps the Democrats from doing anything.

The Democrats are why the Democrats aren't doing anything, of course, but you're too stupid to see that.

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You're too stupid to know the difference between Joe Manchin and 90% of Democrats. I've been fighting the likes of Joe Manchin since before you decided to deign to get involved in politics.

Because we won in Georgia there is hope for Covid relief. Now we have to overcome the couple of overly empowered conservative Democrats in the Senate.

You hope the conservatives win though. You don't want Covid relief. You want to see Dems lose.

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The Democrats have also held the Senate for all of a week. Legislation doesn't tend to move that quickly, especially since there are a lot of provisions to negotiate.

I'm all for holding their feet to the fire here, but we should also be realistic.

OaktownGrinch said:

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dajo9 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This impeachment doesn't mean anything. The Chief Justice isn't presiding, which means they're trying a civilian which isn't a thing. Biden isn't going to give a Covid relief bill till March. Maybe dumb**** dems can work on **** that matters.

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The impeachment is incredibly important.

Remove Trump from the equation.

Just consider a generic President who has lost re-election and is about to be removed from office. If she attempts a coup to stay in power, under the Republican methodology she will have no negative consequences. If the coup succeeds she will be in power and have no negative consequences. If the coup fails, she will be out of power but have no negative consequences because now she is a private citizen so who cares, or something like that.

How long can a Republic stand if there is no negative and only positive consequences for trying to end that Republic?

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The impeachment is stupid and performative. They went ahead with it anyway knowing it had no chance for political gains. Having a trial for someone who is already out of office and that wouldn't prevent him from running again even if convicted (which has no chance of happening).

The Twitter suspension was enough to neuter him for the remainder of his term, but stupid Dems wanted to do performative politics again instead of serving their constituents who have real needs. So yes, I'll be happy as hell when all of those performative politicians lose races for playing performative politics while real people need help.

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So you believe that impeachment is stupid even when the president tries to overthrow the government? I believe you are the one that is stupid.

Democrats Suck said:

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dajo9 said:

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Democrats Suck said:

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dajo9 said:

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Fweedom Baby said:

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dajo9 said:

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The Senate is proving itself to be a laughingstock of a legislative body completely opposed to the concept of "government of the people, by the people, for the people". It was designed to be a bulwark against the will of the American people by the slaveowning founders in the 1700's and that role is even stronger today. The original role of the Senate to empower wealthy landowning whites moves forward to this day, to the disgrace of our nation

After threatening to prevent the transfer of power in the Senate to Democrats, which McConnell had the power to do because the Senate is absurd, McConnell is now threatening that if Democrats implement rules to his disliking he will essentially shut down the Senate, which he has the power to do because the Senate is absurd. Just by constantly demanding quorum calls the Senate can be ground to a halt, because the Senate is absurd, and that is exactly what McConnell threatens to do.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-warns-of-scorched-earth-post-nuclear-senate-promises-nightmare-if-dems-end-filibuster

The Senate is the enemy of the American people. Democrats in the Senate represent 41 million more people than Republicans in the Senate. But that is not enough for legislation. Most legislation requires all the Democrats plus 10 Republicans. And the Senate can't be fixed without the consent of the minority of Americans that it empowers. In other words, a tyranny that can't be broken without the consent of the tyrant.

This is the U.S.Constitution. It is broken. The American people need to recognize that fact.

https://www.vox.com/2021/1/6/22215728/senate-anti-democratic-one-number-raphael-warnock-jon-ossoff-georgia-runoffs

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Take it up with the Democrats, Karen. They had the chance to end the filibuster and passed.

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Karen. Original.

Conservative Democrats from West Virginia and Arizona are preventing that. How many conservative Democrats are out there nationally? Not many. Yet, because the Senate and U.S. Constitution empower states over people, they call the shots and are able to override the will of the American people. The most undemocratic legislative body in the semi-free world.

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https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/99762/replies/1834248

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Now that $2,000 checks have been blocked in the Republican Senate, the only hope for them is if the two Democrats win in Georgia and the Senate flips Democratic.

If Republicans hold the Senate there will be no $2,000 checks as Trump and Pelosi and Biden would like.

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Now the Democrats hold the Senate, there aren't any checks, and you're still crying about how the Senate keeps the Democrats from doing anything.

The Democrats are why the Democrats aren't doing anything, of course, but you're too stupid to see that.

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You're too stupid to know the difference between Joe Manchin and 90% of Democrats. I've been fighting the likes of Joe Manchin since before you decided to deign to get involved in politics.

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Did you encourage all your friends to stop buying Joe Manchin's special coffee brew? Is that how you fought the likes of him?

LOL

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No, I went to an irrelevant message board, created 100 aliases and fought with the mods and everybody else over everything. I proved my superiority by being unyielding and uncompromising in all things at all times.

If Pro is the opposite of Con then is the opposite of Progress . . . Congress?

Why would the Democrats not want him to run? He's the best thing that ever happened to them.

Conviction was never a goal. This whole impeachment is primarily to drive a wedge in the Republican Party. At first I thought it smart but now it seems they will still all coalesce around him and will stiffen. The longer this goes on the worse this plays out with the public and probably Biden's agenda.