dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
BearForce2 said:dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
Your answers keep changing, before you were exposed, it was Trump who built the cages.
I've been over all of this with these folks before. They don't care about this. They don't actually care about the kids either. They care about posting more stupid memes.dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
Pro life until they're born, then ef them.dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
GoOskie said:Pro life until they're born, then ef them.dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
Quote:
"The simple fact is this: after contact has been made with the parents to reunite them with their children, many parents have refused," he said, noting that "out of the 485 children whom plaintiffs' counsel has been able to contact, they have yet to identify a single family that wants their child reunited with them in their country of origin."
sycasey said:I've been over all of this with these folks before. They don't care about this. They don't actually care about the kids either. They care about posting more stupid memes.dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
The post above by BearForce2 seems to bring in some important additional considerations.Hope Never Dies said:Wow.dajo9 said:
Trump's legacy
A whole 105 kids identified in 30 days. And lawyers. They must be using at least 2 then.
Probably BI lawyers who are too busy crying to mods to delete my accounts and argue why their kids need to be back in school to have time to re-unite these poor kids with their parents, who I'm sure probably haven't left any information on how to find them easily with any U.S. or Mexican authorities because of course if your kids were locked up in a foreign country in Obama cages, you'd probably be real tough to find too if some angel of light came along and wanted to give them back to you.
It's astounding how logic fails you when you post this inane Democratic apologia from the media arm of the DemocratiKKK party.
(the party that brought you Southern secession and Jim Crow laws)
BearForce2 said:sycasey said:I've been over all of this with these folks before. They don't care about this. They don't actually care about the kids either. They care about posting more stupid memes.dajo9 said:
Obama put the kids in cages as 72 hour temporary holding facilities during overflow periods.
Trump separated kids from their parents and held kids in cages indefinitely.
If it seems like Democrats treat these two situations differently that is because the former is a bureaucratic solution and the latter is an evil solution supported by the pro life crowd.
No, this is not true. What's despicable are the media's lies.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/immigration-debate-family-separation-media-coverage-misleading/
That's quite a game of chicken they're playing.BearForce2 said:
Parents want to be reunited with their children in the U.S. They don't want their children to return back to their home country.Quote:
"The simple fact is this: after contact has been made with the parents to reunite them with their children, many parents have refused," he said, noting that "out of the 485 children whom plaintiffs' counsel has been able to contact, they have yet to identify a single family that wants their child reunited with them in their country of origin."
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hundreds-of-deported-parents-choosing-not-to-be-reunited-with-their-children-at-home-holding-out-hope-they-can-return-to-u-s/
So the counterargument is that, no 485 parents have not been contacted. I am not aware of any evidence the Trump Administration provided to support their claim.Quote:
In response, Gelernt referred back to the court document that says that the steering committee has "not yet reached the separated parents" of the 545 children.
dajo9 said:
National Review provides a retort from ACLU lawyer, Lee Gelernt, but as is common for National Review (and why you would only read National Review if you want to be blindly fed propaganda and be stupid) they do not provide the appropriate counterargument. For that we can go to
ABCNews:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/parents-545-kids-separated-border-found-aclu/story?id=73748152Quote:
In response, Gelernt referred back to the court document that says that the steering committee has "not yet reached the separated parents" of the 545 children.
Why do you think they've been unable to contact them? And do you think the parents want to be re-united with their children if they aren't granted asylum to live in the United States.Quote:
The American Civil Liberties Union said in a court filing submitted on Tuesday that they have been unable to contact parents of 545 children who were separated at the border by the Trump administration, leaving the children living with sponsors throughout the United States.
Still missing the point, I seeSFBear92 said:dajo9 said:
National Review provides a retort from ACLU lawyer, Lee Gelernt, but as is common for National Review (and why you would only read National Review if you want to be blindly fed propaganda and be stupid) they do not provide the appropriate counterargument. For that we can go to
ABCNews:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/parents-545-kids-separated-border-found-aclu/story?id=73748152Quote:
In response, Gelernt referred back to the court document that says that the steering committee has "not yet reached the separated parents" of the 545 children.Why do you think they've been unable to contact them? And do you think the parents want to be re-united with their children if they aren't granted asylum to live in the United States.Quote:
The American Civil Liberties Union said in a court filing submitted on Tuesday that they have been unable to contact parents of 545 children who were separated at the border by the Trump administration, leaving the children living with sponsors throughout the United States.
I don't think so.dajo9 said:Still missing the point, I seeSFBear92 said:dajo9 said:
National Review provides a retort from ACLU lawyer, Lee Gelernt, but as is common for National Review (and why you would only read National Review if you want to be blindly fed propaganda and be stupid) they do not provide the appropriate counterargument. For that we can go to
ABCNews:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/parents-545-kids-separated-border-found-aclu/story?id=73748152Quote:
In response, Gelernt referred back to the court document that says that the steering committee has "not yet reached the separated parents" of the 545 children.Why do you think they've been unable to contact them? And do you think the parents want to be re-united with their children if they aren't granted asylum to live in the United States.Quote:
The American Civil Liberties Union said in a court filing submitted on Tuesday that they have been unable to contact parents of 545 children who were separated at the border by the Trump administration, leaving the children living with sponsors throughout the United States.