Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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Big C said:

smh said:

in the 1990s we listened to kgo's weekend Money Talk program, alot, ended up following bob brinker's indexing recommendation, and somehow it all worked out
# dumb luck

I used to enjoy Bob Brinker's radio show. Not only was he offering sound financial advice, he was just a good talker and seemed like a good guy.

So I started wondering if he was still around and so queried Mr. Google... turns out he just passed away last month at 82. Did he make our Obituaries thread?




(To the best of my knowledge, they had not definitively ruled out the COVID vaccine as his cause of death, so... )
The word on The Street is that Bob Brinker followed a Dollar Cost Averaging style approach to his Covid vaccinations (having a steady series of vaccinations at regular intervals over time).
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Electrical engineer does a deep data dive on Massachusetts death certificates. Very, very compelling analysis that obliterates the narrative that most of the deaths were due to Covid. Spend 5 minutes and see for yourself.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/unexploded-bomb-where-the-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-are-really-hiding-john-beaudoin-5579458?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=vigilantf&src_src=partner&src_cmp=vigilantf

If you'd rather not have your vaccine sacred cow gored, watch the part (15:30) where he talks about acute renal failure from all the toxic treatments like remdesivir that were given to Covid patients. Take the data from Massachusetts and Minnesota which he has and extrapolate to the whole country and you get 100,000 extra deaths just from this one cause. These deaths were of people who were on average 25 years younger than the typical Covid death. Massive loss of life.

But everyone's tired of Covid so we need to just move on and pretend it never happened so that the corrupt and the willfully blind can allow it to happen again.
movielover
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Censorship continues.

Zippergate
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Benefit-free risk...

AunBear89
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Why do the people that you follow never provide links? I would love to read such a report as described, but such a report is not to be found via Google searches. And the picture your "source" links is just a picture with words, not proof of anything.


Confirmation bias makes even smart people post stupid things. But when someone as stupid as you falls for this crap, no one is surprised.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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AunBear89 said:

Why do the people that you follow never provide links? I would love to read such a report as described, but such a report is not to be found via Google searches. And the picture your "source" links is just a picture with words, not proof of anything.


Confirmation bias makes even smart people post stupid things. But when someone as stupid as you falls for this crap, no one is surprised.
A study of 1.7 million kids is a big, big study. That requires lots of money and time If you're testing them for heart damage. Surprising that there's no paper trail of it.
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Zippergate said:

Electrical engineer does a deep data dive on Massachusetts death certificates. Very, very compelling analysis that obliterates the narrative that most of the deaths were due to Covid. Spend 5 minutes and see for yourself.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/unexploded-bomb-where-the-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-are-really-hiding-john-beaudoin-5579458?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=vigilantf&src_src=partner&src_cmp=vigilantf

If you'd rather not have your vaccine sacred cow gored, watch the part (15:30) where he talks about acute renal failure from all the toxic treatments like remdesivir that were given to Covid patients. Take the data from Massachusetts and Minnesota which he has and extrapolate to the whole country and you get 100,000 extra deaths just from this one cause. These deaths were of people who were on average 25 years younger than the typical Covid death. Massive loss of life.

But everyone's tired of Covid so we need to just move on and pretend it never happened so that the corrupt and the willfully blind can allow it to happen again.

You're living in a bizarro world where you think the Epoch Times has more credibility than the New York Times because they scratch your itch for right wing conspiracy theories.
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AunBear89 said:

Why do the people that you follow never provide links? I would love to read such a report as described, but such a report is not to be found via Google searches. And the picture your "source" links is just a picture with words, not proof of anything.


Confirmation bias makes even smart people post stupid things. But when someone as stupid as you falls for this crap, no one is surprised.


He provided a link. You just have to poke your head out of the sand for long enough to read it. To make it easier for knee jerkers who don't read good, here is the study.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.05.20.24306810v1.full.pdf
AunBear89
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He didn't provide a link , Jackass. And the paper you linked to has not been peer reviewed, and was a study about effectiveness of vaccines for children.

Do better, you fu&@ing morons.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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AunBear89 said:

He didn't provide a link , Jackass. And the paper you linked to has not been peer reviewed, and was a study about effectiveness of vaccines for children.

Do better, you fu&@ing morons.


He did provide a link, and the information he discussed was in the study. I found the study in the link on his post. Get a clue, you vapid non-contributing clown.

Do better, you fu&@ing moron.
AunBear89
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Show me the link in post. Or in the X. (Maybe Elon broke X even more than we thought. I suspect any links in X posts may not be "hot" if you are viewing on web. Never had an account, never downloaded the app. X/Twitter is for smooth brain morons like you who can't come up with their own opinions).


And all the study said was heart disease (not even the focus) was found in vaxxed only at extremely low rates. 10 in million low.

And, still not peer reviewed. So the antivax circle jerk rolls along:

Antivax influencer posts made up picture and reports on minor details of vax study, and posts without a link. Eager little incels like you and zipper and movielover spring to action to further spread the disinformation.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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AunBear89 said:

Show me the link in post. Or in the X. (Maybe Elon broke X even more than we thought. I suspect any links in X posts may not be "hot" if you are viewing on web. Never had an account, never downloaded the app. X/Twitter is for smooth brain morons like you who can't come up with their own opinions).


And all the study said was heart disease (not even the focus) was found in vaxxed only at extremely low rates. 10 in million low.

And, still not peer reviewed. So the antivax circle jerk rolls along:

Antivax influencer posts made up picture and reports on minor details of vax study, and posts without a link. Eager little incels like you and zipper and movielover spring to action to further spread the disinformation.


7th paragraph of the Slay article, which is linked in his post. You should take a break from BI and take some basic computer classes. Perhaps broaden your mind a bit. Learn something new. The children of tomorrow deserve better.
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The link was provided just below the original tweet in one of the main follow-up. It would have taken you less time to find it that to write your usual invectives.
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There
Is
No
Link
In Zippergate's post. Just a shared X post that also does not appear to have a link.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
AunBear89
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Again. Not on X/Twitter, and you can't view X on web like in app. My issue was that Zipper posted inflammatory and misleading information about a study without links.

You are telling me that it is the reader's responsibility to sift through the quoted wacko's X feed to find a link? You are all idiots. Cite your sources.

10 in a million with heart disease - shocking!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
Cal88
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37 out of a million reported. The great majority of myocarditis cases go unreported. Other studies from Thailand, Japan, Switzerland put the rate of some form of heart damage from mRNA vaccination including mild cases as high as 1 in 35 among teenage boys.

What's notable here is that none of the cases of heart damage among children were due to covid itself, ALL the kids with heart damage were vaccinated.
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This is the problem with drawing conclusions from a report that was not focused on what you are concluding.

And
Not
Peer
Reviewed

I realize that fact checking is only for libtards, but a study like this really should be peer reviewed before we start taking it too seriously.


I look forward to an explanation why we can't trust peer review process. Big pharma, MIC, George Soros, blah blah blah.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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What's notable here is that none of the cases of heart damage among children were due to covid itself, ALL the kids with heart damage were vaccinated.

This is the point. We were repeatedly told that all the negative health outcomes people were experiencing during the pandemic were the result of Covid. In most cases, it had nothing to do with Covid; it was vaccine injury. We were lied to. It was a coverup. This is just the latest example.

Children are virtually immune from the serious effects of Covid. The Covid gene therapies marketed as vaccines cause various injuries and they do not stop the spread of transmission. As I said, benefit-free risk.
SO WHY ARE THESE EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS STILL ON THE VACCINE SCHEDULE? WHY ARE WE STILL POISONING OUR KIDS?

Former CDC director Redfield gets it. He recently announced his support for RFK Jr's health plan and told him, "You were right about everything." This is the way forward.
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https://open.substack.com/pub/lionessofjudah/p/nick-hunt-the-hidden-pfizer-report?r=aiop6&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

"For six months, the MHRA and other national regulators have been sitting on a Pfizer report about Covid vaccine safety. Worryingly, the abstract which I have just found online doesn't look good at all:
  • the vaccinated cohort have at least 23-40% higher risk of some heart-related conditions; and
  • the risk is higher than in Pfizer's previous report (i.e., it is increasing over time since vaccination).
The report in question is Pfizer's report C4591021 'Interim Report 5' dated March 12th 2024. It is a Post Authorisation Safety Study (PASS) of Pfizer's Covid vaccine. In summary, national regulators routinely require pharmaceutical manufacturers to conduct PASS studies as a condition of authorisation of most new medicines. The regulators provide data to the manufacturer covering millions of patients registered in national healthcare systems. The manufacturer then conducts analysis to determine whether the medicine has increased the risk of specified health conditions.
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Zippergate
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What happened to all the vaxxsplainers? They want to memoryhole this entire thread. Meanwhile, the children continue to be sacrificed to Big Pharma.
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The evidence seems overwhelming, and still unfactored and unknown are the long-term consequences.

An acquaintance believes this is a purposefully maniacal scheme to lower population levels and fertility. I haven't seen that evidence. People and corporations are making their millions (or billions) and running for the hills.

In a tangential issue, I've seen one woman online claim 80% of medical students never take a single class in nutrition. Then I see claims that medical associations are randomly lowering optimal cholesterol levels, and thereby boosting the needs for statins.
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tragic

https://thecountersignal.com/8-year-old-covid-vaccine-poster-child-dies-from-heart-attack/

An eight-year-old boy from Israel has tragically died of a heart attack, three years after appearing in a government-sponsored video that promoted the COVID vaccine for children.

Yonatan Moshe Erlichman suffering cardiac arrest while taking a bath. The child was taken to Hadassah Hospital in Mount Scopus in serious condition but died a few days later on September 28.
Yonatan Erlichman was the grandson of Dr. Mati Erlichman, a respected doctor in Beit El.
Three years ago, at the age of five, Yonatan appeared in a video produced by the Mateh Binyamin Regional Council, as reported by Frontline News. The video was part of the government-run program called "Shushki in the Land of Binyamin," which aimed to entertain and educate children.

In the video, Shushki, a friendly puppet "child," prompts real people to respond with educational answers.
Yonatan Erlichman's role in the COVID vaccine promotion made him a symbol for the importance of vaccination, with the film emphasizing that children have no choice when it comes to getting the shots.
The video came out before the COVID vaccine was available, but prompted citizens to get the shot when it was ready.
Following the tragedy, the Erlichman family issued a statement: "Our Yonatan Moshe passed away a short time ago. On the eve of Yom Kippur, Yonatan went into cardiac arrest in our home, and since then we have struggled by his side after he collapsed. With love, we thank all those dear to us, who were by our side during the last days of his life."

Second in two years

Last year, Argentina's poster boy for childhood vaccination, Santino Godoy Blanco, 4, tragically died after falling ill and reporting a plethora of symptoms.
He's pictured on the Argentinian government's website under a vaccine campaign material guideline.
"Vaccines protect us," reads the slogan beside Blanco, who's holding up a fist.
Neither of these deaths have been linked to vaccines. Health Canada maintains that the COVID vaccine is safe and advisable for children over 6-months-old.
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Zippergate said:

tragic

https://thecountersignal.com/8-year-old-covid-vaccine-poster-child-dies-from-heart-attack/

An eight-year-old boy from Israel has tragically died of a heart attack, three years after appearing in a government-sponsored video that promoted the COVID vaccine for children.

Yonatan Moshe Erlichman suffering cardiac arrest while taking a bath. The child was taken to Hadassah Hospital in Mount Scopus in serious condition but died a few days later on September 28.
Yonatan Erlichman was the grandson of Dr. Mati Erlichman, a respected doctor in Beit El.
Three years ago, at the age of five, Yonatan appeared in a video produced by the Mateh Binyamin Regional Council, as reported by Frontline News. The video was part of the government-run program called "Shushki in the Land of Binyamin," which aimed to entertain and educate children.

In the video, Shushki, a friendly puppet "child," prompts real people to respond with educational answers.
Yonatan Erlichman's role in the COVID vaccine promotion made him a symbol for the importance of vaccination, with the film emphasizing that children have no choice when it comes to getting the shots.
The video came out before the COVID vaccine was available, but prompted citizens to get the shot when it was ready.
Following the tragedy, the Erlichman family issued a statement: "Our Yonatan Moshe passed away a short time ago. On the eve of Yom Kippur, Yonatan went into cardiac arrest in our home, and since then we have struggled by his side after he collapsed. With love, we thank all those dear to us, who were by our side during the last days of his life."

Second in two years

Last year, Argentina's poster boy for childhood vaccination, Santino Godoy Blanco, 4, tragically died after falling ill and reporting a plethora of symptoms.
He's pictured on the Argentinian government's website under a vaccine campaign material guideline.
"Vaccines protect us," reads the slogan beside Blanco, who's holding up a fist.
Neither of these deaths have been linked to vaccines. Health Canada maintains that the COVID vaccine is safe and advisable for children over 6-months-old.


Want to know something fishy but really not surprising?

Novavax ran a large worldwide trial for its combo flu covid shot. Recently, a trial participant that took the shot nearly two years ago developed a nerve issue. The FDA put a clinical hold on the trial and their approval. Clearly, Novavax doesn't have the cache that Big Pharma does.
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countersignal as a source:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-counter-signal-bias
exec summary.. no bueno

> Detailed Report
> Questionable Reasoning: Conspiracy Theories, Propaganda, Lack of Transparency, Poor Sourcing, False Claims
> Bias Rating: FAR-RIGHT
> Factual Reporting: MIXED
> Country: Canada
> MBFC's Country Freedom Rating: EXCELLENT
> Media Type: Website
> Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
> MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

wheeee!
muting more than 300 handles, turnaround is fair play
Zippergate
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Simple question for you, SMH.
Did the young Israeli posterboy for the Covid vaccines die of cardiac arrest or not?
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smh said:

countersignal as a source:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-counter-signal-bias
exec summary.. no bueno

> Detailed Report
> Questionable Reasoning: Conspiracy Theories, Propaganda, Lack of Transparency, Poor Sourcing, False Claims
> Bias Rating: FAR-RIGHT
> Factual Reporting: MIXED
> Country: Canada
> MBFC's Country Freedom Rating: EXCELLENT
> Media Type: Website
> Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
> MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

wheeee!




The countersignal article contains the source material. Perhaps you should read that instead of dismissing the article. The government has censored the sources you trust
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Zippergate said:

Simple question for you, SMH.
Did the young Israeli posterboy for the Covid vaccines die of cardiac arrest or not?


+1000 ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Zippergate said:

Simple question for you, SMH.
Did the young Israeli posterboy for the Covid vaccines die of cardiac arrest or not?
If he did, it's not proof that it was due to the Covid vaccine. News stories say he nearly drowned at the time and had to be resuscitated. I suspect that had a lot to do with his death.

As for the boy from Argentina, he died from bilateral pneumonia. I had bilateral pneumonia as a kid. Was that due to the then non-existent Covid vaccine?
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Zippergate said:

Simple question for you, SMH.
Did the young Israeli posterboy for the Covid vaccines die of cardiac arrest or not?
If he did, it's not proof that it was due to the Covid vaccine. News stories say he nearly drowned at the time and had to be resuscitated. I suspect that had a lot to do with his death.

As for the boy from Argentina, he died from bilateral pneumonia. I had bilateral pneumonia as a kid. Was that due to the then non-existent Covid vaccine?
No, it's not proof and neither the article nor I claimed that it was. But don't you find it the least bit suspicious that an 8-year-old boy went into cardiac arrest? How often did that happen prior to Covid?

You speculate that the cause of the heart failure could have been related to nearly drowning. Perhaps, but how often do 8-year-olds nearly drown in the bath tub? It seems far more likely that he nearly drowned because he was suffering from cardiac arrest.

In light of how utterly implausible these alternative explanations appear and given that we know that the Covid vaccines have been shown in many studies to cause heart damage, particularly in young boys, I don't think it's speculative at all to think that the Covid vaccines had something to do with his death.

https://www.wnd.com/2022/10/study-covid-vaccine-injures-heart-recipients/

"A Swiss study found elevated levels of the protein troponin in all of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients it analyzed, indicating the shots are routinely causing heart injury.
Further, up to 1 in 27 of the vaccinated people in the study showed levels associated with subclinical myocarditis, the British website Daily Sceptic reported.
Similarly, a Thai study published in August found elevated troponin levels or cardiac symptoms after COVID vaccination indicative of myocarditis or pericarditis in seven (3.5%) of 200 boys. A study published in January by the Journal of the American Medical Association based on data from the CDC's Vaccine and Adverse Events Reporting System, or VAERS, found 1,991 reports of myocarditis after receipt of at least one shot and 684 separate reports of pericarditis.
In September, the CDC's analysis of its own Vaccine Safety Datalink surveillance data showed the incidence of myocarditis after vaccination is three to five times higher for young men than what the agency was reporting at that time last year
Last year, the FDA quietly disclosed it found that the COVID-19 vaccine posed a possible increased risk of four serious heart and cardiovascular conditions in elderly people. The agency promised to investigate, but more than a year later, the status and results of the follow-up study are unknown, according to an article published this week by the British Medical Journal."

More on the Thai study to my knowledge has never been covered by the MSM

"This study focuses on cardiovascular effects, particularly myocarditis and pericarditis events, after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine injection in Thai adolescents. This prospective cohort study enrolled students from two schools aged 1318 years who received the second dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Data including demographics, symptoms, vital signs, ECG, echocardiography and cardiac enzymes were collected at baseline, Day 3, Day 7, and Day 14 (optional) using case record forms.
We enrolled 314 participants; of these, 13 participants were lost to follow up, leaving 301 participants for analysis.
The most common cardiovascular effects were tachycardia (7.64%), shortness of breath (6.64%), palpitation (4.32%), chest pain (4.32%), and hypertension (3.99%). Seven participants (2.33%) exhibited at least one elevated cardiac biomarker or positive lab assessments. Cardiovascular effects were found in 29.24% of patients, ranging from tachycardia, palpitation, and myopericarditis. Myopericarditis was confirmed in one patient after vaccination. Two patients had suspected pericarditis and four patients had suspected subclinical myocarditis.
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Is your internist an alternative/holistic medicine practitioner that recommends that you not get a Covid vacciination?
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Zippergate said:

Simple question for you, SMH.
Did the young Israeli posterboy for the Covid vaccines die of cardiac arrest or not?
If he did, it's not proof that it was due to the Covid vaccine. News stories say he nearly drowned at the time and had to be resuscitated. I suspect that had a lot to do with his death.

As for the boy from Argentina, he died from bilateral pneumonia. I had bilateral pneumonia as a kid. Was that due to the then non-existent Covid vaccine?

8 year-old boys don't drown in bathtubs. He nearly drowned in his bathtub because he had a heart attack in the bath. That is also why he ended up dying later on, after having been rescued from drowning.
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No, he offered me the Covid vaxx, I said no, and that was the end of it.
Now, my son's pediatrician, that's another story. He repeatedly pushed the shots. We found another pediatrician. What does this have to with anything? If the CDC, AMA, FDA etc are wrong about a therapeutic, why would we expect doctors to be better informed? 100,000 suffered cardiac arrest from a Vioxx, a drug that was pulled from the market and never should have be approved in the first place according to the FDA whistleblower who was responsible for causing around 10 drugs to be pulled from the market.

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Zippergate said:

No, he offered me the Covid vaxx….

…..If the CDC, AMA, FDA etc are wrong about a therapeutic, why would we expect doctors to be better informed?



Why would you intrust your healthcare needs to a healthcare professional that offers you an unsafe vaccine and doesn't even bother to educate himself and do the research that you have done yourself supporting the position that the vaccine is unsafe?
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