Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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"He's a world-class surgeon, and he has health policy expertise," said Jennifer Nuzzo, a Brown University professor of epidemiology and former colleague of Makary's at Johns Hopkins. "If you have pancreatic cancer, he's the person you want to operate on you………

During the pandemic, he took to op-eds and conservative media with controversial positions on public health policy. Some proved astute, while others look less prescient in hindsight.

In December 2020, Makary defied established scientific knowledge and said that vaccination of 20% of the population would be enough to create "herd immunity." In a February 2021 Wall Street Journal piece, he predicted that covid would virtually disappear by April because so many people would have become immune through infection or vaccination. The U.S. death toll from covid stood at 560,000 that April, with an additional 650,000 deaths to come. In June 2021, he said he had been unable to find evidence of a single covid death of a previously healthy child. By then there were many reports of such deaths, although children were much less likely than older people to suffer severe disease."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250307/Marty-Makary-often-wrong-as-pandemic-critic-is-poised-to-lead-the-FDA-he-railed-against.aspx

*In other words, stick to your expertise or STFU.
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bearister said:

movielover said:




"He's a world-class surgeon, and he has health policy expertise," said Jennifer Nuzzo, a Brown University professor of epidemiology and former colleague of Makary's at Johns Hopkins. "If you have pancreatic cancer, he's the person you want to operate on you………

During the pandemic, he took to op-eds and conservative media with controversial positions on public health policy. Some proved astute, while others look less prescient in hindsight.

In December 2020, Makary defied established scientific knowledge and said that vaccination of 20% of the population would be enough to create "herd immunity." In a February 2021 Wall Street Journal piece, he predicted that covid would virtually disappear by April because so many people would have become immune through infection or vaccination. The U.S. death toll from covid stood at 560,000 that April, with an additional 650,000 deaths to come. In June 2021, he said he had been unable to find evidence of a single covid death of a previously healthy child. By then there were many reports of such deaths, although children were much less likely than older people to suffer severe disease."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250307/Marty-Makary-often-wrong-as-pandemic-critic-is-poised-to-lead-the-FDA-he-railed-against.aspx

*In other words, stick to your expertise or STFU.

What I suspect happened to Dr. Makary was -- and this is soooo typical for pancreatic surgeons -- they're at cocktail parties, trying to stick to their expertise and pretty soon people get bored hearing about the pancreas and then they end up all by themselves, standing in front of the clam dip. After 15-20 parties like this, they decide to try and become more well-rounded conversationalists.

Hard to fault them for that.
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movielover said:

MIT study finds that the Pfizer vaxx alone accounted for a minimum of 470,000 deaths.



What about The Civil War?

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"The claim that 470,000 to 600,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is false and based on misinterpretations of data, according to numerous fact-checking organizations and public health authorities.

Key points:

Misinterpretation of Data: Claims of widespread deaths due to COVID-19 vaccines often stem from misinterpretations of data from systems like the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and databases like EudraVigilance.
VAERS Limitations: VAERS collects reports of any adverse event following vaccination, but it does not establish a causal link between the vaccine and the event. Reports may include coincidental events not related to the vaccine.

No Proven Causation:

Public health agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have not verified any deaths as a direct result of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.


Vaccine Safety Monitoring:

Extensive safety monitoring systems, including VAERS, V-safe, and the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), are in place to track and assess vaccine safety.

Benefits Outweigh Risks:

The overwhelming scientific consensus, supported by data, indicates that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccines in preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death far outweigh the risks.

In summary:

The claim of hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is unsupported by evidence and contradicts the findings of scientific research and public health authorities. While reports of adverse events, including deaths, following vaccination are collected through VAERS, these reports do not automatically imply causation"
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Big C said:

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MIT study finds that the Pfizer vaxx alone accounted for a minimum of 470,000 deaths.



What about The Civil War?

(FYI, you may know it better as The War to End Fine Southern Traditions)


You're likely part of the crowd that call Justice Clarencs Thomas, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams and Charles Payne sell outs or Uncle Toms.
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Texas state rep. wants his kids' school 'celebrated' for being least vaccinated in state


https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/texas-state-rep-wants-kids-35320819?utm_source=app
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I don't know how many times this has to be explained.

I find it really frustrating at times that Cal alums can't seem to differentiate between correlation and causation.
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bearister said:

Texas state rep. wants his kids' school 'celebrated' for being least vaccinated in state

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/texas-state-rep-wants-kids-35320819?utm_source=app
Future Darwin Award winners.
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movielover said:

Big C said:

movielover said:

MIT study finds that the Pfizer vaxx alone accounted for a minimum of 470,000 deaths.



What about The Civil War?

(FYI, you may know it better as The War to End Fine Southern Traditions)


You're likely part of the crowd that call Justice Clarencs Thomas, Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams and Charles Payne sell outs or Uncle Toms.

Some people of your ilk might be content with being prolific posters, but you are also a shrewd judge of people!

Is it any wonder that I'm such a fan of yours?
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I take that as a "Yes".
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movielover said:

I take that as a "Yes".
You're a giant inflammatory repost machine that can't interpret numbers outside of post volume, so your interpretation being so dumb is no surprise. You are owed no courteous interactions here.
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movielover said:

I take that as a "Yes".

You bet! Have I mentioned that you're a perceptive individual?
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Haloski said:

movielover said:

I take that as a "Yes".
You're a giant inflammatory repost machine that can't interpret numbers outside of post volume, so your interpretation being so dumb is no surprise. You are owed no courteous interactions here.

Your opinion, maybe. Any facts to back that up? Recently, on the Trump / Vance thread, poster-in-question mentions that he has a source!
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DMSO wonder drug?

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Eric Feigl-Ding: "BREAKINGRFK Jr has abruptly fired CDC's entire expert panel of vaccine scientists, claiming the action is needed to restore faith in vaccines. This is a dark day for science and public health. Disinformation now has an iron grip on Trump CDC/HHS. www.statnews.com/2025/06/09/r..." Bluesky


https://bsky.app/profile/drericding.bsky.social/post/3lr7bsfsuzs2q

*Well, we have come full circle. Now it is your turn to impose your recklessness on us. Hopefully it results in some of the less fit in the Administration dropping.
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MAHA!!
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sycasey said:




Biden appointed 8 of the 15 in January 2025. Cause and effect.
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sycasey said:




Biden appointed 8 of the 15 in January 2025. Cause and effect.


Clot shot.
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movielover said:

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Biden appointed 8 of the 15 in January 2025. Cause and effect.


Clot shot.


" Some people with COVID-19 develop abnormal blood clots, including in the smallest blood vessels. The clots may also form in multiple places in the body, including in the lungs. This unusual clotting may cause different complications, including organ damage, heart attack and stroke."
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Pick your poison. Go with Dr. Adedapo. I'll take a Hard Pass on him.
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Military confirmed Covid started in a lab, ordered to not disclose their findings. Just the News. Investigations underway.
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You issue pivoted.
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bearister said:

movielover said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:




Biden appointed 8 of the 15 in January 2025. Cause and effect.


Clot shot.


" Some people with COVID-19 develop abnormal blood clots, including in the smallest blood vessels. The clots may also form in multiple places in the body, including in the lungs. This unusual clotting may cause different complications, including organ damage, heart attack and stroke."
AI Overiew.

Pick your poison. Go with Dr. Adedapo. I'll take a Hard Pass on him.

That is true, from personal anecdotal evidence. However, these clotting issues with covid seem to happen while you're sick, not years later.

Clotting issues with the mRNA vaccine also happen, badly enough that the J&J and AstraZenica vax were pulled out from several markets.
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And how about imbalmers claiming to pull fibrous white clots from cadavers?
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What in the world is going on here?

Money from the NIH and USAID flows down to the University of California and somehow end up at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
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movielover said:

And how about imbalmers claiming to pull fibrous white clots from cadavers?


BTW, there are videos online revealing this. Imbalmers are also taking surveys of how often they see these white fibrous clots, other observations, and compiling their volunteer efforts. But some are worried about going public / retribution.
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Finally!

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It appears I caught Covid. Fun times this past week.
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too bad, sorrry. signed, many times vaccinated # no regrets
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tequila4kapp said:

It appears I caught Covid. Fun times this past week.

Sorry. If you have a razor sharp sore throat, you got the latest version.
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Finally!




Dr. Simone Gold, leading anti-vax figure, sentenced for storming Capitol on Jan. 6 - ABC News


https://abcnews.go.com/US/dr-simone-gold-leading-anti-vax-figure-sentenced/story?id=85445732

*She apparently may be a competent and dedicated emergency medicine physician but other than that….she is not an Immunologist,Virologist, Infectious Disease Specialist, or a
Physician Scientist.
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