Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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BearForce2
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Covid death rates in Scandinavian countries except Sweden are up despite high rates of vaccination.

Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Norway 84%, 83%, 81% 79% vaccinated
AunBear89
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No pictures, just graphs? Your death porn game is slipping.

Or can you only reach a happy ending with data now - all the pictures desensitized you?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
BearForce2
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It's not just Scandinavian countries, there are death spikes in other highly vaccinated countries like Japan, South Korea, and Australia.

Japan 82% vaccinated


Australia 87% vaccinated


South Korea 88% vaccinated
AunBear89
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More dead people. You must be very "happy".
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
dimitrig
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AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".


I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.

BearForce2
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dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.

Unit2Sucks
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How long before whackadoodles start attacking Novavax for injecting people with cytotoxic COVID spike proteins?

That was a common fake science attack on mRNA (some might remember 003 making the claim) but Novavax literally consists of the spike protein plus and adjuvant to stimulate a response.

Fun times living in an era where medieval anti-science thinking still prevents us from deploying the best that modern science has to offer.
oski003
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The spike protein is cytotoxic. Therefore, method of delivery is important. Moderna's vaccine is too aggressive. Transfection occurs beyond the skin and muscle and into the bodies organs, which is far from ideal. I have posted earlier studies, specifically detailing how Moderna moved from cancer treatments to vaccines because repeat treatments were dangerous as mRNA transfected in the liver, causing damage.
Big C
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BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.
Unit2Sucks
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Founder of America's Frontline Doctors, a COVID vaccine misinformation group, sentenced for the capitol riot. I'm utterly completely unsurprised by this or the fact that AFD committed grift in raising money for her defense. The unity between vaccine misinformation and MAGA capitol rioters is par for the course.

Quote:

Prosecutors said Gold hasn't shown remorse or accepted responsibility for her actions. They accused her of trying to profit from her crime, saying America's Frontline Doctors has raised more than $430,000 through its website for her legal expenses.

"It beggars belief that Gold could have incurred anywhere near $430,000 in costs for her criminal defense: after all, she pleaded guilty in the face of indisputable, readily identifiable evidence without filing a single motion," prosecutors wrote in a court filing.
Two other unsurprising facts. She went to Stanford and moved to Florida after her arrest lol.
BearForce2
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Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, America's top infectious disease expert, is the latest to urge countries to crack down on marketplaces like the one linked to the coronavirus outbreak. (April 3, 2020)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/anthony-fauci-foreign-wet-markets-shutdown-162975

No more bat sandwiches.
oski003
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Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.


For a more serious factual take, many believe the virus originated from the level 4 Wuhan lab, which is right next to the wet market it supposedly came from and designed and built in coordination with a French company whose CEO was Stephanie Bancel, who has now made billions in coordination with Fauci and the NIH, from the covid vaccine as CEO of Moderna.
oski003
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Do flu shots do this?
oski003
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oski003 said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.


For a more serious factual take, many believe the virus originated from the level 4 Wuhan lab, which is right next to the wet market it supposedly came from and designed and built in coordination with a French company whose CEO was Stephanie Bancel, who has now made billions in coordination with Fauci and the NIH, from the covid vaccine as CEO of Moderna.


WHO director privately confides that Covid 19 likely leaked from the Wuhan Lab.

https://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-10930501/WHO-chief-believes-Covid-DID-leak-Wuhan-lab-catastrophic-accident-2019.html

***

Independent journalist Jordan Schachtel released a series of tweets explaining how Bancel used to be the CEO of a company called bioMerieux, which was founded by Alain Merieux, a personal friend of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Merieux helped build the level-four biosafety laboratory in Wuhan where the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) is believed to have originated.

Considering Moderna had a "vaccine" ready and waiting right when the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) first publicized the gene sequence for the Chinese Virus, Schachtel believes that the company deserves more scrutiny for its clear connections to the Chinese regime.

Prior to the "pandemic," Moderna had brought a total of zero products to market. Then the Wuhan Flu comes along and, poof, a "miracle" mRNA (messenger RNA) injection was already available and ready for emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the rest of the global pharmaceutical cabal.

"Prior to mRNA vax, Moderna was on its way to becoming the next Theranos," Schachtel tweeted.

Theranos, by the way, was a fraudulent company hatched by feminist entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes that faked its way into the global spotlight, only to later be exposed as a scam.

"[Moderna] had billions of $$$ in fundraising thanks to hype, but no functioning products," Schachtel added about Moderna, highlighting parallels to the Theranos fiasco. "We are now supposed to believe [Moderna] solved it (the Chinese Virus pandemic) in a matter of hours, after a decade of failures."
dimitrig
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oski003 said:

oski003 said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.


For a more serious factual take, many believe the virus originated from the level 4 Wuhan lab, which is right next to the wet market it supposedly came from and designed and built in coordination with a French company whose CEO was Stephanie Bancel, who has now made billions in coordination with Fauci and the NIH, from the covid vaccine as CEO of Moderna.


WHO director privately confides that Covid 19 likely leaked from the Wuhan Lab.

https://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-10930501/WHO-chief-believes-Covid-DID-leak-Wuhan-lab-catastrophic-accident-2019.html

***

Independent journalist Jordan Schachtel released a series of tweets explaining how Bancel used to be the CEO of a company called bioMerieux, which was founded by Alain Merieux, a personal friend of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Merieux helped build the level-four biosafety laboratory in Wuhan where the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) is believed to have originated.

Considering Moderna had a "vaccine" ready and waiting right when the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) first publicized the gene sequence for the Chinese Virus, Schachtel believes that the company deserves more scrutiny for its clear connections to the Chinese regime.

Prior to the "pandemic," Moderna had brought a total of zero products to market. Then the Wuhan Flu comes along and, poof, a "miracle" mRNA (messenger RNA) injection was already available and ready for emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the rest of the global pharmaceutical cabal.

"Prior to mRNA vax, Moderna was on its way to becoming the next Theranos," Schachtel tweeted.

Theranos, by the way, was a fraudulent company hatched by feminist entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes that faked its way into the global spotlight, only to later be exposed as a scam.

"[Moderna] had billions of $$$ in fundraising thanks to hype, but no functioning products," Schachtel added about Moderna, highlighting parallels to the Theranos fiasco. "We are now supposed to believe [Moderna] solved it (the Chinese Virus pandemic) in a matter of hours, after a decade of failures."


Jordan Schachtel works for AIER which has ties to Charlie Koch.

If you want a good laugh read the rest of the articles he has published.

oski003
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dimitrig said:

oski003 said:

oski003 said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.


For a more serious factual take, many believe the virus originated from the level 4 Wuhan lab, which is right next to the wet market it supposedly came from and designed and built in coordination with a French company whose CEO was Stephanie Bancel, who has now made billions in coordination with Fauci and the NIH, from the covid vaccine as CEO of Moderna.


WHO director privately confides that Covid 19 likely leaked from the Wuhan Lab.

https://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-10930501/WHO-chief-believes-Covid-DID-leak-Wuhan-lab-catastrophic-accident-2019.html

***

Independent journalist Jordan Schachtel released a series of tweets explaining how Bancel used to be the CEO of a company called bioMerieux, which was founded by Alain Merieux, a personal friend of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Merieux helped build the level-four biosafety laboratory in Wuhan where the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) is believed to have originated.

Considering Moderna had a "vaccine" ready and waiting right when the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) first publicized the gene sequence for the Chinese Virus, Schachtel believes that the company deserves more scrutiny for its clear connections to the Chinese regime.

Prior to the "pandemic," Moderna had brought a total of zero products to market. Then the Wuhan Flu comes along and, poof, a "miracle" mRNA (messenger RNA) injection was already available and ready for emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the rest of the global pharmaceutical cabal.

"Prior to mRNA vax, Moderna was on its way to becoming the next Theranos," Schachtel tweeted.

Theranos, by the way, was a fraudulent company hatched by feminist entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes that faked its way into the global spotlight, only to later be exposed as a scam.

"[Moderna] had billions of $$$ in fundraising thanks to hype, but no functioning products," Schachtel added about Moderna, highlighting parallels to the Theranos fiasco. "We are now supposed to believe [Moderna] solved it (the Chinese Virus pandemic) in a matter of hours, after a decade of failures."


Jordan Schachtel works for AIER which has ties to Charlie Koch.

If you want a good laugh read the rest of the articles he has published.




You can read Bancel's bios etc. The source is irrelevant. Feel free to draw your conclusions from the FACTS presented or investigate yourself. The facts demonstrate some very peculiar coincidences.

BearForce2
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oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH
Big C
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BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
Unit2Sucks
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dimitrig said:

oski003 said:

oski003 said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

AunBear89 said:

More dead people. You must be very "happy".

I thought the right wingers viewed COVID as a hoax or at worst a mild cold.



The Covid hoax is a left wing created deception that the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan, China.



Yeah, those "in the know" realize that the virus originated in Hunter Biden's briefcase, which was in the basement of that pizza parlor... and was spread after it "accidentally" infected all those emails that Hillary sent out.


For a more serious factual take, many believe the virus originated from the level 4 Wuhan lab, which is right next to the wet market it supposedly came from and designed and built in coordination with a French company whose CEO was Stephanie Bancel, who has now made billions in coordination with Fauci and the NIH, from the covid vaccine as CEO of Moderna.


WHO director privately confides that Covid 19 likely leaked from the Wuhan Lab.

https://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-10930501/WHO-chief-believes-Covid-DID-leak-Wuhan-lab-catastrophic-accident-2019.html

***

Independent journalist Jordan Schachtel released a series of tweets explaining how Bancel used to be the CEO of a company called bioMerieux, which was founded by Alain Merieux, a personal friend of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Merieux helped build the level-four biosafety laboratory in Wuhan where the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) is believed to have originated.

Considering Moderna had a "vaccine" ready and waiting right when the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) first publicized the gene sequence for the Chinese Virus, Schachtel believes that the company deserves more scrutiny for its clear connections to the Chinese regime.

Prior to the "pandemic," Moderna had brought a total of zero products to market. Then the Wuhan Flu comes along and, poof, a "miracle" mRNA (messenger RNA) injection was already available and ready for emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the rest of the global pharmaceutical cabal.

"Prior to mRNA vax, Moderna was on its way to becoming the next Theranos," Schachtel tweeted.

Theranos, by the way, was a fraudulent company hatched by feminist entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes that faked its way into the global spotlight, only to later be exposed as a scam.

"[Moderna] had billions of $$$ in fundraising thanks to hype, but no functioning products," Schachtel added about Moderna, highlighting parallels to the Theranos fiasco. "We are now supposed to believe [Moderna] solved it (the Chinese Virus pandemic) in a matter of hours, after a decade of failures."


Jordan Schachtel works for AIER which has ties to Charlie Koch.

If you want a good laugh read the rest of the articles he has published.




People who believe in one conspiracy theory tend to believe in lots of conspiracy theories. This thread is full of examples.
BearForce2
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Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his

I know it doesn't help that we also have a tampon supply shortage. I'm stocking up now.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?
oski003
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
Big C
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?

LOL "the facts posted about mRNA vaccines".

Also, we know your question was a rhetorical one.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
I'm not a pediatrician or a viral disease expert, so you're on your own about your infant. I suspect you really don't care about my answer anyway and it's clear you have already made up your mind. As for debating the merits of mRNA vaccines, I generally avoid arguing with people who KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG. Your opinions are set in stone and nothing I say will have any effect, so why bother?
oski003
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
I'm not a pediatrician or a viral disease expert, so you're on your own about your infant. I suspect you really don't care about my answer anyway and it's clear you have already made up your mind. As for debating the merits of mRNA vaccines, I generally avoid arguing with people who KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG. Your opinions are set in stone and nothing I say will have any effect, so why bother?


You are way off base. Genuine, non-condescending fact-based comments are welcome. The comment mockingly and broadly suggesting the facts I posted were not facts at all is the type of post that I do not welcome. I also don't welcome cheap shot posts purposely grouping me with anti-vaxxers in effort to bring down my arguments.
dimitrig
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


If you're in a relationship with a woman then you do.

Big C
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oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
I'm not a pediatrician or a viral disease expert, so you're on your own about your infant. I suspect you really don't care about my answer anyway and it's clear you have already made up your mind. As for debating the merits of mRNA vaccines, I generally avoid arguing with people who KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG. Your opinions are set in stone and nothing I say will have any effect, so why bother?


You are way off base. Genuine, non-condescending fact-based comments are welcome. The comment mockingly and broadly suggesting the facts I posted were not facts at all is the type of post that I do not welcome. I also don't welcome cheap shot posts purposely grouping me with anti-vaxxers in effort to bring down my arguments.

You are not a typical anti-vaxxer, true. You are somebody that has always had some sort of agenda against the mRNA vaccines. This agenda may be your sincere belief for the welfare of your fellow man, or it may be that you once got fired from Moderna or have financial interests in on of the non-mRNA companies.

Whatever your agenda is, you have plastered data and arguments here -- hundreds and hundreds of posts -- even data that is wacky or that could discourage people from becoming vaccinated at all. (example: the VAERS bs)

So others here take one of two approaches in response to that:
- posters like U2S have answered your hundreds of posts -- more likely thousands, no joke -- refuting them passionately
- posters like me have responded with sarcasm, reflecting what we believe your posts merit

If you turn out to be right and the mainstream is wrong... and somebody in my family wakes up one day with a heart the size of a bulldozer, I will come back here and humbly beg forgiveness. But until then...
oski003
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Big C said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Big C said:

BearForce2 said:

oski003 said:



Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



he/him/his
If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
I'm not a pediatrician or a viral disease expert, so you're on your own about your infant. I suspect you really don't care about my answer anyway and it's clear you have already made up your mind. As for debating the merits of mRNA vaccines, I generally avoid arguing with people who KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG. Your opinions are set in stone and nothing I say will have any effect, so why bother?


You are way off base. Genuine, non-condescending fact-based comments are welcome. The comment mockingly and broadly suggesting the facts I posted were not facts at all is the type of post that I do not welcome. I also don't welcome cheap shot posts purposely grouping me with anti-vaxxers in effort to bring down my arguments.

You are not a typical anti-vaxxer, true. You are somebody that has always had some sort of agenda against the mRNA vaccines. This agenda may be your sincere belief for the welfare of your fellow man, or it may be that you once got fired from Moderna or have financial interests in on of the non-mRNA companies.

Whatever your agenda is, you have plastered data and arguments here -- hundreds and hundreds of posts -- even data that is wacky or that could discourage people from becoming vaccinated at all. (example: the VAERS bs)

So others here take one of two approaches in response to that:
- posters like U2S have answered your hundreds of posts -- more likely thousands, no joke -- refuting them passionately
- posters like me have responded with sarcasm, reflecting what we believe your posts merit

If you turn out to be right and the mainstream is wrong... and somebody in my family wakes up one day with a heart the size of a bulldozer, I will come back here and humbly beg forgiveness. But until then...


VAERS data isn't BS. Discrediting the occasional VAERS report doesn't make the data BS. **** off for saying my posts merit only your sarcasm. U2's arguments have largely centered on themes that my posts are something anti-vaxxers would say combined with the occasional regurgitation of what Fauci says publicly based on known data until more data is known publicly that refutes it. Examples include the vaccines preventing infection to the need for more boosters to the toxicity of the spike protein to the link to myocarditis. Examples also include the patent issues, money, and backorder deals that have accompanied covid vaccine development.

Most of what I've said that was met with rebuke and condescension has come true. Again, I welcome any actual discussion of the facts I have posted in the past week. I believe in vaccines and am upset that US corruption has left us only with mRNA 2.5 years into covid 19. It is shameful. I do believe Novavax will be approved soon, however. It is hard to slow walk it forever.
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Will be nice to have another vaccine but Novavax isn't going to be a game changer. Because he is a radicalized anti-mRNA anti-vaxxer, 003 will discredit anyone who speaks other than in glowing terms about Novavax based on one of his many conspiracy theories. He will ignore that Novavax was in operation warp speed (unlike Pfizer-BioNTech), that they received a government contract, that they experienced manufacturing and other issues due to their inexperience and failure to execute and that their vaccine appears to have the same myocarditis risk that 003 spent over a year telling us made the mRNA vaccines incredibly dangerous. Because he's pot committed to Novavax, 003 will ignore all of these things and continue to construct an alternate reality where Novavax could have saved us if only Fauci and Big Pharma weren't so corrupt.

Meanwhile his radicalized anti-vaxxer message contributed to the mass disinformation campaign that worked very well on so many conspiracy theorists which is why Novavax wouldn't have been able to make a difference even if it were significantly better than mRNA, which at this point doesn't appear true. And rather than be appreciative for the millions of lives saved by mRNA vaccines, 003 prefers to remain in his bitter constructed worldview. Or perhaps this is all because 003 bet heavy on Novavax in the market and is bitter about it. Just asking questions here. Just asking questions.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Will be nice to have another vaccine but Novavax isn't going to be a game changer. Because he is a radicalized anti-mRNA anti-vaxxer, 003 will discredit anyone who speaks other than in glowing terms about Novavax based on one of his many conspiracy theories. He will ignore that Novavax was in operation warp speed (unlike Pfizer-BioNTech), that they received a government contract, that they experienced manufacturing and other issues due to their inexperience and failure to execute and that their vaccine appears to have the same myocarditis risk that 003 spent over a year telling us made the mRNA vaccines incredibly dangerous. Because he's pot committed to Novavax, 003 will ignore all of these things and continue to construct an alternate reality where Novavax could have saved us if only Fauci and Big Pharma weren't so corrupt.

Meanwhile his radicalized anti-vaxxer message contributed to the mass disinformation campaign that worked very well on so many conspiracy theorists which is why Novavax wouldn't have been able to make a difference even if it were significantly better than mRNA, which at this point doesn't appear true. And rather than be appreciative for the millions of lives saved by mRNA vaccines, 003 prefers to remain in his bitter constructed worldview. Or perhaps this is all because 003 bet heavy on Novavax in the market and is bitter about it. Just asking questions here. Just asking questions.

Based on his earliest posts on this subject (IIRC the long thread that was on Growls in 2020), I thought maybe he had bet heavy on Merck.
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oski003 said:

Big C said:

oski003 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Do flu shots do this?

Studies have shown that the mRNA vaccines have a direct impact on women's menstrual cycles as well. I recommend all healthy Dems to get additional boosters as soon as possible.

https://www.dovepress.com/menstrual-symptoms-after-covid-19-vaccine-a-cross-sectional-investigat-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-IJWH

And the reason you didn't recommend the additional boosters for just Dem women is that you know that us Dem guys can have babies too! Well played!

If I seem a little grumpy today, it's... it's my menstrual cycle.



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If women have menstrual cycles, why don't men have womenstrual cycles?


Nice sophomoric comic relief (this and hunters briefcase) to avoid discussing the facts posted about mRNA vaccines. Should I give my six month year old a vaccine (albeit smaller dose) that France, Italy, and several other European countries won't give to anybody under 30 and no other country will give to anyone under 5?
I'm not a pediatrician or a viral disease expert, so you're on your own about your infant. I suspect you really don't care about my answer anyway and it's clear you have already made up your mind. As for debating the merits of mRNA vaccines, I generally avoid arguing with people who KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THINK THE REST OF THE WORLD IS WRONG. Your opinions are set in stone and nothing I say will have any effect, so why bother?


You are way off base. Genuine, non-condescending fact-based comments are welcome. The comment mockingly and broadly suggesting the facts I posted were not facts at all is the type of post that I do not welcome. I also don't welcome cheap shot posts purposely grouping me with anti-vaxxers in effort to bring down my arguments.

You are not a typical anti-vaxxer, true. You are somebody that has always had some sort of agenda against the mRNA vaccines. This agenda may be your sincere belief for the welfare of your fellow man, or it may be that you once got fired from Moderna or have financial interests in on of the non-mRNA companies.

Whatever your agenda is, you have plastered data and arguments here -- hundreds and hundreds of posts -- even data that is wacky or that could discourage people from becoming vaccinated at all. (example: the VAERS bs)

So others here take one of two approaches in response to that:
- posters like U2S have answered your hundreds of posts -- more likely thousands, no joke -- refuting them passionately
- posters like me have responded with sarcasm, reflecting what we believe your posts merit

If you turn out to be right and the mainstream is wrong... and somebody in my family wakes up one day with a heart the size of a bulldozer, I will come back here and humbly beg forgiveness. But until then...


VAERS data isn't BS. Discrediting the occasional VAERS report doesn't make the data BS. **** off for saying my posts merit only your sarcasm. U2's arguments have largely centered on themes that my posts are something anti-vaxxers would say combined with the occasional regurgitation of what Fauci says publicly based on known data until more data is known publicly that refutes it. Examples include the vaccines preventing infection to the need for more boosters to the toxicity of the spike protein to the link to myocarditis. Examples also include the patent issues, money, and backorder deals that have accompanied covid vaccine development.

Most of what I've said that was met with rebuke and condescension has come true. Again, I welcome any actual discussion of the facts I have posted in the past week. I believe in vaccines and am upset that US corruption has left us only with mRNA 2.5 years into covid 19. It is shameful. I do believe Novavax will be approved soon, however. It is hard to slow walk it forever.

Cloying sycophants trying to brown-nose me (figuratively) day in and day out gets surprisingly tedious. Thus, I really appreciate your honest reactions and pull-no-punches approach. Delightfully refreshing!
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Pfizer Releases More Documents. Dr. Naomi Wolf joins Jesse Kelly to analyze the latest releases.

https://rumble.com/v17qfeh-pfizer-releases-more-documents.-dr.-naomi-wolf-joins-jesse-kelly-to-analyze.html
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Would Pfizer have even been authorized if held to the same manufacturing standards as Novavax?

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/what-the-leaked-ema-emails-docs-reveal-major-concerns-with-pfizer-c-19-vaccine-batch-integrity-and-the-race-to-authorise-cdda0ba2

Remember, Moderna's production facilities were not inspected by the FDA prior to EUA. Is the FDA dotting every I and crossing T's with Novavax so as to not make earlier mistakes (like with JnJ's uninspected and later found contaminated production and transverse myelitis) or are they purposely holding them for other reasons?

Side note based on the speculation that I am pot heavy on Novavax stock bets..

No, I am not. It would be stupid to be so given the regulatory environment and the amount of big money involved shorting Novavax and others.
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It would be idiotic for the FDA not to recognize that we are in a different position than we weee when the initial vaccines were approved. Incredibly disingenuous arguments being made by 003.

He is still loudly complaining for 1.5 years that the mRNA vaccines are unsafe and shouldn't have been approved when COVID was ripping through our country. Still complains that they are unsafe and that they got a pass and should have been held to higher standards even though we had no viable alternatives. It was a process that took into account need. And it saved millions of lives.

As if that weren't enough, 003 is now arguing in 2022 that with 90-100% of the vaccine tolerant population already having protection from an existing vaccine, Novavax should be held to a standard that the complainer has deemed too low for other vaccines. Novavax is a cherry on top, it's not the whole sundae. If Novavax isn't safer and/or more effective, then what's the point? And given Novavax's numerous problems and scant operating history, the FDA should be cautious. If they have to defend against dumb conspiracy theories, of the type propagated by 003, why not run Novavax through a more stringent process to help offset attacks from people like 003? It's all a bit academic anyway, very few people will take Novavax until we get some real world operating history showing it's safety and effectiveness. Assuming it can prove itself to be better in practice than shown in trials (with the myocarditis issues that 003 thinks are the most critical safety issue a vaccine can produce, at least based on his post count), it still has a chance to be the best booster.
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Novavax 1st world global EUA approvals given elsewhere (months and months ago) in the likes of Europe and Australia then throw in full 12-month BLA's granted in Japan and Korea = there is now a ton of real-world additional safety data available worldwide/collected over 'years'. Throw in the FDA's checkered history and the fact they approved the likes of Paxlovid (!) and the Moderna and Pfizer add-on approvals so quickly... Novavax for their faults is still getting a raw deal from the FDA. (And I won't mention the eye-brow-raising fact they're a US company, dealing with US regulators, with US phase 3 results, funded by US taxpayer money). If they can't produce in 2022, how the heck did they make enough doses to start and pass a phase 3 in September 2020? What happened?
 
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