I'm sorry you were forced to take the vaccines against your own will.

Sometimes I can't just sit there while this thread becomes an echo chamber for right-wing talking points.

If we had somehow had the supply of vaccine and the wherewithal to jab the entire world's population in November of 2021, millions of lives would've been saved. Most all mainstream scientists believe this. Except the lunatic fringe.

True, hundreds of those people might have died from reactions to the virus. Hell, maybe even thousands, but do some simple arithmetic: Subtract a thousand from a million. Here, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, subtract ten thousand from a million, even a hundred thousand. We were in a global pandemic. Wake up: Trump got vaccinated. All the gutless people in Congress who refused to state if they had gotten vaccinated or not, what do you think they did? And why? Because it prevented most people from getting serious disease.

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I'm sorry you were forced to take the vaccines against your own will.

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I'm not the one hear incessantly moaning and complaining. I'm sorry Trump did all that to you.

My understanding is that the more jabs one has, the more likely to have adverse affects. Sweden followed a traditional path and faired well. African countrirs had low vaxx rates and faired well. They accidentally employed proven methods - Vitamin D (sun), low obesity, and Ivermectin (for river blindness).

The science is loaded with politics. Interesting that the number of flu deaths dropped to zero.

We had two swine flu vaccinations (1976, 2009) halted for far lower adverse incidents.

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I'm sorry you were forced to take the vaccines against your own will.

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I'm not the one hear incessantly moaning and complaining. I'm sorry Trump did all that to you.

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Sometimes I can't just sit there while this thread becomes an echo chamber for right-wing talking points.

If we had somehow had the supply of vaccine and the wherewithal to jab the entire world's population in November of 2021, millions of lives would've been saved. Most all mainstream scientists believe this. Except the lunatic fringe.

True, hundreds of those people might have died from reactions to the virus. Hell, maybe even thousands, but do some simple arithmetic: Subtract a thousand from a million. Here, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, subtract ten thousand from a million, even a hundred thousand. We were in a global pandemic. Wake up: Trump got vaccinated. All the gutless people in Congress who refused to state if they had gotten vaccinated or not, what do you think they did? And why? Because it prevented most people from getting serious disease.

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I wouldn't consider myself part of any lunatic fringe. I got both bivalent shots as soon as I was able. However I have a simple question about the vaccine.

If the vaccine was so important to keep millions of people from dying, why did they have to tell so many lies about it? Why did they have to cover up the lab leak. Why did they lie and say it would prevent retransmission when it didn't?

As a point of additional information, the death rate as of today is 0.9% of all COVID cases.
https://covid19.who.int/

At the height of COVID pre-vaccine, it was more in the neighborhood of 4-5%, so the vaccine has definitely contributed to the decline in that death rate.

The pandemic has definitely negatively affected trust in public health agencies and with good reason. I know speaking for myself that I'm done with boosters.

Sources please. The alleged falling death rate would correspond with the virus mutating (weakening), natural immunity, and the herd was thinning out*.

* One commentator put it this way: a typical Covid death was a morbidly obese person often in their 70s or 80s with multiple comorbidities - diabetes, pneumonia, hypertension, etc. "They were more than 'at deaths door before' before Covid; they had a foot through the threshold."

You also ignore the dramatic increase in mortality among healthy, working-age people 18-64 - a 40% spike. Some industry and medical professionals attribute these deaths to the jabs. They argue these are not deaths from Covid. The virus was weakening, herd immunity was up, and the mortality rate increased among the healthiest (and younger) population.

Wow. It's like we've traveled back in time two years. I'm just amazed that educated people believe the propaganda around the vaxxines after all that's transpired and all the lies that were told. No need to rehash. Anyone who hasn't seen the light by now is never gonna get it. I'm sure they will fall obediently in line when the next plandemic hits. I just hope we collectively learned that the mandates are not gonna fly.

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NOBODY IS SAFE

THE UNVACCINATED | "Nobody is Safe!" https://t.co/OmXZISMpZX via @YouTube

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) May 21, 2023

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Um, I think the correct message is "No one is safe." I know, it's a little confusing since some of the narrative pushers misread the memo and said "nobody" but I think we want to stay on message here and be consistent.

But seriously, brilliant video. Amazing how soon we forget and how little we care when we've been lied to.

What were the main causes of communication failure by our public health officials?
Was the public misled intentionally?
How were the DOD, CIA, NSA, and other agencies involved during the pandemic?

This can't be retweeted too many times. Appalling barely describes it. Two years of absolute lies and tyranny. Suspension of virtually all rights. And for much less than nothing. https://t.co/KCyAJJ06Xu

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) May 24, 2023

A lot to unpack here. I had no idea the Corona virus went back to the 1960s. Suspicious patent timeline as well.

BioWeapon. https://t.co/QYQ2Y8aIFH

— Alan Church (@AlanChu60469928) May 26, 2023

Israel Ministry of Health - Disinformation spreaders?

https://www.illusionconsensus.com/p/new-israeli-report-no-covid-deaths

Earlier this week, a stunning revelation came from the Israel Ministry of Health. For those who have been following the truth from the start such as Dr. Makary, Dr. Bhattacharya, Dr. Kuldorff, and others this will hardly come as a surprise. However, those who have been living in the fear-driven hallucination created by mainstream media and public health authorities, this will crumble the foundation of their Covid beliefs.
In response to Ori Xabi's freedom of information request asking how many people under 50 died of Covid without any underlying health conditions, the Israel Ministry of Health responded with the following:

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"Of the deceased from Corona for whom an epidemiological investigation was conducted and the question regarding underlying diseases was answered, there were 0 deceased between the ages of 18-49 without underlying diseases."
(Note: translation of Israeli document can be derived from Google Translate. Also shared by Twitter user Ofir Prizat as copied below.)

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Yes, the Ministry of Health could not detect a single recorded case of a healthy person under 50 who died of Covid. This does not mean it has never happened (there are rare anomalies), but in their extensive epidemiological investigation, they could not find a single such Covid death.

After all the online buzz, the Ministry attempted to undermine and discredit this new finding by claiming the absence of comorbidity information in their databases. However, as Dr. Retesef Levi shared, earlier reports from their own ministry have shown all Covid deaths have been associated with at least one comorbidity:

A Google-translated version of the highlighted section in this report reveals this stunning admission:

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The Ministry of Health data shows that all those who died from Corona suffered from at least one underlying disease. That is, there were no deceased who did not suffer from underlying diseases at all.

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As mentioned, none of this is surprising to those who have been tracking the data from the start. Stanford epidemiologist Dr. John Ionnadis' analysis of the pre-vaccination Covid infection fatality rates found a median infection fatality rate (IFR) of 0.035% for those aged 0-59, who represent 86% of the global population. The age-stratified risks are as follows:
Ages 0-19: fatality rate 0.0003%; survival rate 99.9997%
Ages 20-29: fatality rate 0.003%; survival rate 99.997%
Ages 30-39: fatality rate 0.011%; survival rate 99.989%
Ages 40-49: fatality rate 0.035%; survival rate 99.965%
These rates are exceptionally low, but even they can inflate the real risk of Covid for the vast majority of individuals. One must ask, who is in the fractional subset of 0.035% who died of Covid before vaccines became available?

First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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So typical. Tragicomedy.

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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So typical. Tragicomedy.

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One good thing: We're both alive! I can think that it's because I got the vaccine (even though it probably isn't) and you can think it's because you didn't get it (even though it probably isn't). Here's to life: Go Bears!

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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So typical. Tragicomedy.

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One good thing: We're both alive! I can think that it's because I got the vaccine (even though it probably isn't) and you can think it's because you didn't get it (even though it probably isn't). Here's to life: Go Bears!

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I think I'm alive due to pure luck. Wife got COVID and somehow I managed not to get it. It certainly wasn't due to me being overly careful. I had the vaccine, but then so did she.

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Well, if we're doing real talk here, yeah. One of my theories on life is that randomness ("luck") plays a huge roll, but that's no fun to believe, or even admit.

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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So typical. Tragicomedy.

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One good thing: We're both alive! I can think that it's because I got the vaccine (even though it probably isn't) and you can think it's because you didn't get it (even though it probably isn't). Here's to life: Go Bears!

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I think I'm alive due to pure luck. Wife got COVID and somehow I managed not to get it. It certainly wasn't due to me being overly careful. I had the vaccine, but then so did she.

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You probably had it and didn't even know it, Covid doesn't always present symptoms.

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First of all, it's relative. What you label as right wing is firmly in the center in other places and times including America not too long ago. This is easily verifiable by listening to earlier speeches of all your current favs, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc.

Second, most of the authoritarian left has left this thread because their early beliefs about Covid have been shattered by reality over time. Go back and read the early posts. It's quite illuminating. The question is, will those people learn anything and be more skeptical when the next plandemic hits as Tedros "predicts"?

Since we're off-topic, this is an interesting read (unless you're easily triggered).
https://ponerology.substack.com/p/marxcissism-is-real

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Just because the got-no-life lunatic fringe keeps on repeating that something happened or something didn't happen (after reasonable people have stopped debating it because it's settled), it doesn't make them correct... or even credible.

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Yeah, I (and most others, I assume) got tired of correcting them and just decided to let them have their little vaxxine conspiracy echo chamber/circle jerk where they could pat each other on the back and feel good about themselves.

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So typical. Tragicomedy.

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One good thing: We're both alive! I can think that it's because I got the vaccine (even though it probably isn't) and you can think it's because you didn't get it (even though it probably isn't). Here's to life: Go Bears!

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I think I'm alive due to pure luck. Wife got COVID and somehow I managed not to get it. It certainly wasn't due to me being overly careful. I had the vaccine, but then so did she.

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You probably had it and didn't even know it, Covid doesn't always present symptoms.

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Just because he had no symptoms, it doesn't mean you can assume he had COVID even if that conforms to your world view.

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There is a good chance that he got Covid because he was heavily exposed to it by his wife getting it, even if that doesn't confirm to your world view.

🚨🚨🚨 BREAKING: Cleveland clinic study which found that "The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19" has been peer review published. Cleveland clinic is No. 2 Hospital in World. Excerpts below:https://t.co/cotyBDjMDI pic.twitter.com/mYFsNbw9Yd

— ⌘ ⌘ MrsPitbull ⌘ ⌘ (@MrsPitbull) May 29, 2023

RED FLAG over mRNA vaccines & CDC recommendation to boost every 4-6 mo!

Boosters cause switch to IgG4 antibodies & tolerance to SAR-COV-2 & higher risk of severe illness! Associated with higher risk of cancer & autoimmune diseases!

This is supported by epidemiological data!…

— Retsef Levi (@RetsefL) May 29, 2023

“Majority of Covid Hospital deaths were due to untreated Bacterial Pneumonia.”

The totalitarian groupthink imposed on doctors, scientists — on all of us — these past 3 years will go down as one of the most murderous government crimes in history. https://t.co/y8L6KA4X0S

— Peter St Onge, Ph.D. (@profstonge) May 29, 2023

A story that seems to have never been told.

How Big Pharma ousted Trump’s Health Sec, & Pence replaced him with Indiana drug buddy Azar, who sat on industry board with Pfizer.

Azar originated the COVID taskforce. Pence appointed Fauci&Birx.

READ/SHARE: https://t.co/bEheArZH2L

— Raheem. (@RaheemKassam) May 30, 2023

"A story that seems to have never been told. How Big Pharma ousted Trump's Health Sec, & Pence replaced him with Indiana drug buddy Azar, who sat on industry board with Pfizer. Azar originated the COVID taskforce. Pence appointed Fauci&Birx."

Nowhere in this article is it noted that Pfizer was the biggest medical donor to Trump’s inauguration, which bought the company four tickets to a “leadership luncheon” with “select Cabinet appointees and House and Senate leadership.” That’s how pharma shills like Scott Gottlieb… https://t.co/VRS6wgf67A pic.twitter.com/Yl1XCEEeGx

— Pedro L. Gonzalez (@emeriticus) May 30, 2023

"Nowhere in this article is it noted that Pfizer was the biggest medical donor to Trump's inauguration, which bought the company four tickets to a "leadership luncheon" with "select Cabinet appointees and House and Senate leadership." That's how pharma shills like Scott Gottlieb and Alex Azar ended up in the Trump administration. That's also why Trump killed the vaccine safety commission Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was supposed to lead. That and the fact Trump cared more about the counsel of people like Bill Gates on vaccines than his own supporters. Trump bragged last year about how huge the Johnson & Johnson pharmaceutical fortune is after the company received $1 billion for Operation Warp Speed. He protested when the J&J drug was temporarily pulled off the market when people kept dying in connection to it before it was completely nixed this year. Trump's financial disclosures show he holds stock in J&J and Pfizer. "

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I certainly have my preferences, but at this point it's the Uniparty that is THE problem. The time for indiscriminate allegiance to Team Red or Team Blue is over.