Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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dajo9
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You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103
sycasey
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txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.
oski003
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sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


The hysteria was buttressed by poor choices, lies, and mandates from the Biden administration.
sycasey
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


The hysteria was buttressed by poor choices, lies, and mandates from the Biden administration.

Almost all of which have since been walked back. The anti-vaxx hysteria remains and indeed was put in charge of public health, in the form of RFK Jr.

At some point the right wing has to assume responsibility for things.
Big C
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


The hysteria was buttressed by poor choices, lies, and mandates from the Biden administration.

Almost all of which have since been walked back. The anti-vaxx hysteria remains and indeed was put in charge of public health, in the form of RFK Jr.

At some point the right wing has to assume responsibility for things.

Not as long as George Soros is still calling all the shots!
bearister
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dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103

When my generation was growing up we ate dirt, didn't have seatbelts or bike helmets, went to school in buildings full of asbestos, windmilled peanuts and got mumps, chicken pox and measles and it just made us meaner.

I'm not confident that the spawn of MAGA snowflakes can survive RFK Jr's public health policies. Oh well, sh@it happens, I suppose.
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oski003
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bearister said:

dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103

When my generation was growing up we ate dirt, didn't have seatbelts or bike helmets, went to school in buildings full of asbestos, windmilled peanuts and got mumps, chicken pox and measles and it just made us meaner.

I'm not confident that the spawn of MAGA snowflakes can survive RFK Jr's public health policies. Oh well, sh@it happens, I suppose.


Correction: liberal snowflakes
oski003
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


The hysteria was buttressed by poor choices, lies, and mandates from the Biden administration.

Almost all of which have since been walked back. The anti-vaxx hysteria remains and indeed was put in charge of public health, in the form of RFK Jr.

At some point the right wing has to assume responsibility for things.


Yup, I don't like that RFK is solidifying the hysteria created by lying and mandating experimental vaccines and expanding it into distrust of safer vaccines.
bearister
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oski003 said:

bearister said:

dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103

When my generation was growing up we ate dirt, didn't have seatbelts or bike helmets, went to school in buildings full of asbestos, windmilled peanuts and got mumps, chicken pox and measles and it just made us meaner.

I'm not confident that the spawn of MAGA snowflakes can survive RFK Jr's public health policies. Oh well, sh@it happens, I suppose.


Correction: liberal snowflakes

No, they are not the ones at risk. They follow medical advice from places like Mayo Clinic, not Hyannis Port.

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oski003
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bearister said:

oski003 said:

bearister said:

dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103

When my generation was growing up we ate dirt, didn't have seatbelts or bike helmets, went to school in buildings full of asbestos, windmilled peanuts and got mumps, chicken pox and measles and it just made us meaner.

I'm not confident that the spawn of MAGA snowflakes can survive RFK Jr's public health policies. Oh well, sh@it happens, I suppose.


Correction: liberal snowflakes

No, they are not the ones at risk. They follow medical advice from places like Mayo Clinic, not Hyannis Port.




That's fine. It is just that liberal snowflakes are the ones furthest away from: "When my generation was growing up we ate dirt, didn't have seatbelts or bike helmets, went to school in buildings full of asbestos, windmilled peanuts and got mumps, chicken pox and measles and it just made us meaner."
bearister
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Well, your brothers here think I'm a liberal (strictly on the basis that I don't buy anything Trump shovels) and I can guaranty you that I am all over that stuff that I described.
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
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txwharfrat
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dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103


How did I specifically vote for more measles? My candidate had nothing in his platform about that.
txwharfrat
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txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

You voted for more measles

RFK Jr:
"There are adverse events from the vaccine. It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes."

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-vaccines-autism-measles-obesity-food-dye-f26089856550e978d28fd25b653d8103


How did I specifically vote for more measles? My candidate had nothing in his platform about that.


Hint: I'm not a registered Democrat or Republican.
txwharfrat
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sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


Your so-called "hysteria" had nothing to do with it. It was the fallacy that a true vaccine for a Coronavirus could ever exist with our current technology, and the human leadership's lies and draconian forced behavior that did it.

The minute local or federal governments started forcing a drug that wasn't ever going to actually be a true "vaccine", against a virus type that evolves so quickly down people's throats, you knew it would backfire against actual scientifically proven and effective vaccines.

You are right about that. But unproven "hysteria" had nothing to do with it.
sycasey
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txwharfrat said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


Your so-called "hysteria" had nothing to do with it. It was the fallacy that a true vaccine for a Coronavirus could ever exist with our current technology, and the human leadership's lies and draconian forced behavior that did it.

The minute local or federal governments started forcing a drug that wasn't ever going to actually be a true "vaccine", against a virus type that evolves so quickly down people's throats, you knew it would backfire against actual scientifically proven and effective vaccines.

You are right about that. But unproven "hysteria" had nothing to do with it.

People were talking like the COVID shots were going to kill them. It was hysteria. People need to take responsibility for their own bad opinions rather than always blaming the government.
txwharfrat
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sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


Your so-called "hysteria" had nothing to do with it. It was the fallacy that a true vaccine for a Coronavirus could ever exist with our current technology, and the human leadership's lies and draconian forced behavior that did it.

The minute local or federal governments started forcing a drug that wasn't ever going to actually be a true "vaccine", against a virus type that evolves so quickly down people's throats, you knew it would backfire against actual scientifically proven and effective vaccines.

You are right about that. But unproven "hysteria" had nothing to do with it.

People were talking like the COVID shots were going to kill them. It was hysteria. People need to take responsibility for their own bad opinions rather than always blaming the government.


Agreed. But we also need government officials to take responsibility for their own bad opinions and decisions too. When people like Fauci and Newsom go unpunished and show zero remorse, that doesn't inspire the masses to admit their own failings.
sycasey
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txwharfrat said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

sycasey said:

txwharfrat said:

dajo9 said:

sycasey said:




The American people voted for more measles


Using an actual proven and effective vaccine for illnesses like Polio or Measles is one thing. Being forced to take an experimental drug that doesn't even stop the virus, and isn't really a true "vaccine", is something else. Someone (like me) can be pro childhood vaccinations for things like Polio and Measles and still vehemently against the stupid and dangerous COVID shot for children.

Those are two totally different things.


Yes, but I could see a while back that the hysteria around the Covid vaccines was going to take us to a world where people refuse long-settled safe vaccinations and drive down public health and now we're here.


Your so-called "hysteria" had nothing to do with it. It was the fallacy that a true vaccine for a Coronavirus could ever exist with our current technology, and the human leadership's lies and draconian forced behavior that did it.

The minute local or federal governments started forcing a drug that wasn't ever going to actually be a true "vaccine", against a virus type that evolves so quickly down people's throats, you knew it would backfire against actual scientifically proven and effective vaccines.

You are right about that. But unproven "hysteria" had nothing to do with it.

People were talking like the COVID shots were going to kill them. It was hysteria. People need to take responsibility for their own bad opinions rather than always blaming the government.


Agreed. But we also need government officials to take responsibility for their own bad opinions and decisions too. When people like Fauci and Newsom go unpunished and show zero remorse, that doesn't inspire the masses to admit their own failings.

Exactly what kind of punishments do you expect to be visited upon Fauci and Newsom before people stop harming their own kids by refusing measles vaccines? Criminal? That will be pretty hard to prove.
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Remember the mandate that large employers force employees to get the jab? My entire company was working remotely. We were required to come into the office for a single day, but told we couldn't do that without proof of vaccination. The company paid for an entire software system to track who uploaded their proof of vaccination. There was zero business need to enter the building...but we did because the hand of government wanted us vac'd.

My kids - both young skinny athletes and and very healthy - could not return to school for an education when the school district ended online school without proof of the V.

Some don't believe the science of vaccines but other people remember the type of stuff I mentioned above and react accordingly.
Cal88
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Hope your kids did not have any side effects from the mRNA vaccines.
sycasey
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tequila4kapp said:

Remember the mandate that large employers force employees to get the jab? My entire company was working remotely. We were required to come into the office for a single day, but told we couldn't do that without proof of vaccination. The company paid for an entire software system to track who uploaded their proof of vaccination. There was zero business need to enter the building...but we did because the hand of government wanted us vac'd.

My kids - both young skinny athletes and and very healthy - could not return to school for an education when the school district ended online school without proof of the V.

Some don't believe the science of vaccines but other people remember the type of stuff I mentioned above and react accordingly.

I don't think refusing measles vaccines is reacting accordingly to the above. It's reactionary hysteria. Also, those mandates are done now.
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