blungld said:
wifeisafurd said:
It is pretty clear from the charges that a couple thousand protestors got inside the building without any plan whatsoever. But finally we have indictments against 11 nut jobs, which does not make a coup or even sedition, but does make a conspiracy change.
You're typically both a smart and a stand up guy. What's with this parsing of words and excuse making? You were completely wrong and this was obvious from the start. This was an organized plan (no matter how crazy or ineffective) pulled together in a panic by Trump and his inner circle and the nut jobs at the capital were one arm of a multi-prong attempt to overturn an election and stay in power. That's a coup. It doesn't matter that it didn't work or that the foot soldiers were dumb, manipulated, or didn't know the entire scheme (neither do the tank drivers in a military coup), but the desired outcome and violation of office and Constitution are crystal clear.
Sometimes you just admit you were wrong.
Bravo!
A couple analogies. We're probably all Joe Montana fans, right? We aligned ourselves with him, his team. They were our heroes, and their success meant our success. (I'd use a Cal sports squad but we haven't achieved that level of success yet. …Anyway, if Montana and the Niners don't fit for you, just insert your own sports hero.)
But what if I told you that Joe Montana had been secretly beating his wife and kids, also cheating on her, 100 times? And what if he was taking mass PED's, enough to put Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire to shame? And, not only that, but his tech buddies had wired opposing locker rooms and sidelines with eaves dropping technology. In fact, the entire 49ers team was full of horrible people, complete cheaters, and management was in on it, too! They had bribed officials to call excessive holding calls, or say that a clear fumble was not a fumble but a legal "tuck" by the quarterback.
If all that happened just before the Super Bowl, would your emotional allegiance to the team flip?
Well, it should!
But instead, we'd probably experience something like the 5 stages of grief or mourning.
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
I suspect many lifelong 49ers fans, er uh, Republicans, have been existing somewhere on this spectrum for years now.
Some remain at Denial.
Many are engaged in Bargaining. The coup didn't happen (wasn't a coup) because they didn't shoot anyone (anarchybear).
Some have progressed to Depression. But not yet acceptance - they remain "Republicans", even if doing so means they will vote for Trump and/or his election denying liars.
Perhaps a lifelong Republican who has ceased to return to the scene of shame is avoiding doing so because it depresses him.
Quote:
Sometimes you just admit you were wrong.
Acceptance.
Some never get there.