The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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chazzed said:



The Ukraine Azov Nazis have the tattoos and the insignias on their gear to identify themselves.

But these ISIS terrorists never once shouted, "Allah Akbar"?
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movielover said:

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Nuland lands at Columbia.

Nuland's husband is Robert Kagan, the person who wrote an opinion piece for the Washington Post, entitled, "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending." In the article, Kagan is green-lighting the assassination of Trump by guessing what his second term would look like.

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These people are left wing, war-mongering, radicals.
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oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.
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Responsible, or aided?
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
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George Carlin said never believe the government. Darth Nuland, Blinken, vaxx, ... I don't trust them.

ISIS fights to the death and doesn't fight for a million rubles. No mention , again, of Allah. This guy also seems dim, like the nitwits the FBI recruited to kidnap a governor. (I know he's cold and stressed.)

Remember, Obama just visited #10 Downing, and was in Belgium the day before.

Who could benefit from this geopolitically? Ukraine, Turkey, USA, Israel?



A commenter wrote: "The ISIS training facility in Syria mentioned by Putin in his address to the Russian people is controlled by the USA/CIA and contractor mercenaries to seed havoc thru out the middle east and Eastern Europe." Of so, no bueno.

There's lots to unpack here. The masterminds knew these men would be caught, and knew they would be headed to Ukraine.
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.

Not just ISIS, but new, improved, SPECIAL K ISIS.

There's going to be a new mRNA booster against this new variant.
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Zippergate
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I hope this isn't true.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/its-war-the-real-meat-grinder-starts-now/

"Regular troops from France, Germany and Poland have arrived, by rail and air, to Cherkassy, south of Kiev. A substantial force. No numbers leaked. They are being housed in schools. For all practical purposes, this is a NATO force."
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movielover said:

Remember, Obama just visited #10 Downing, and was in Belgium the day before.

Who could benefit from this geopolitically? Ukraine, Turkey, USA, Israel?


I'm sure Obama just wanted to say hi.
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Zippergate said:

I hope this isn't true.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/its-war-the-real-meat-grinder-starts-now/

"Regular troops from France, Germany and Poland have arrived, by rail and air, to Cherkassy, south of Kiev. A substantial force. No numbers leaked. They are being housed in schools. For all practical purposes, this is a NATO force."


The publisher of that article:
"Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)"


Strategic Culture Foundation - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Culture_Foundation

"The Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) is a Russian think tank based in Moscow (founded in 2005[1]: 15 ) that primarily publishes an online current affairs magazine of the same name. SCF is regarded as an arm of Russian state interests by the United States government.[1][better source needed][2] SCF has been characterized as a conservative, pro-Russian propaganda website by U.S. media[2] and others.[3]"

The author of the article:

Pepe Escobar - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_Escobar


"Escobar's work has been scrutinized for its appearance in outlets identified by the U.S. State Department as part of Russia's disinformation network, such as RT and Sputnik News, raising questions about the potential propagation of Russian propaganda."
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TASS: France preparing contingent of 2,000 troops to be sent to Ukraine intelligence chief
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Options on how France could help.

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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
In those words? No.

Someone on Twitter made a joke, oh no.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Biggest takeaway from today is that Putin can't protect his people. If he thinks Ukraine is responsible, he should probably initiate a full withdrawal ASAP. Ukraine won't stop killing Russians and all "realists" understand that there is no point in assigning blame or responsibility.

Protecting the Russian people which is job 1 for Putin and continuing this war puts them all at risk. From here on out, every single death is on Putin because he chose war. Etc etc.

Did I Putinsplain right?


Your remarks are eerily similar to famous Ukrainian comedian, Zelensky's.
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Zippergate said:

I hope this isn't true.

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/its-war-the-real-meat-grinder-starts-now/

"Regular troops from France, Germany and Poland have arrived, by rail and air, to Cherkassy, south of Kiev. A substantial force. No numbers leaked. They are being housed in schools. For all practical purposes, this is a NATO force."
At least Europe is finally deciding to take responsibility for Europe for once instead of begging us to do it for them.
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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
In those words? No.

Someone on Twitter made a joke, oh no.
Leave it to oski003 to get to the bottom of the most important "disinformation" in this war. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.
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chazzed said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
In those words? No.

Someone on Twitter made a joke, oh no.
Leave it to oski003 to get to the bottom of the most important "disinformation" in this war. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.

Yes, but someone might have gotten the wrong idea and thought that Putin makes up fake narratives about stuff.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Biggest takeaway from today is that Putin can't protect his people. If he thinks Ukraine is responsible, he should probably initiate a full withdrawal ASAP. Ukraine won't stop killing Russians and all "realists" understand that there is no point in assigning blame or responsibility.

Protecting the Russian people which is job 1 for Putin and continuing this war puts them all at risk. From here on out, every single death is on Putin because he chose war. Etc etc.

Did I Putinsplain right?

No, that is the nuthouse neocon takeaway. The real takeaway from today is that in all-out war with no boundaries, where nothing is off the table, no political leader can protect his or her people. If you think the non-stop escalation by the West will not have consequences, you're kidding your self.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

'During one visit to Wiesbaden, Milley spoke with Ukrainian special operations troops who were working with American Green Berets in the hope of inspiring them ahead of operations in enemy-controlled areas.

"There should be no Russian who goes to sleep without wondering if they're going to get their throat slit in the middle of the night," Milley said, according to an official with knowledge of the event. "You gotta get back there, and create a campaign behind the lines."'


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He looks like Bill Graham after the punch out with Led Zeppelin and their crew in '77:


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Russian TV host Vladimir Soloviev, considered a propagandist by some, claims the terrorists weren't ISIS. Further claims the terrorists were captured in the forest on their way to the Ukranian border, where a large contingent of Ukranian special forces and ISIS members were waiting.

If UKR special forces were at the border, why wouldn't Russia hit them?

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sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
In those words? No.

Someone on Twitter made a joke, oh no.


Even though you are arguing on the side of "good," it still isn't okay to use false logic, get called out on it, and then call it a joke.
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oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

sycasey said:

oski003 said:

chazzed said:





When did Russia say Ukraine was an Islamist state?

Putin claimed that Ukraine was responsible for the ISIS attacks.


Did he also claim that Ukraine was an Islamist state?
In those words? No.

Someone on Twitter made a joke, oh no.


Even though you are arguing on the side of "good," it still isn't okay to use false logic, get called out on it, and then call it a joke.

1. It's not my logic, it's some other guy on Twitter.

2. My interpretation is that the guy was making a sarcastic/satirical joke about Putin now claiming that Ukraine was run by Islamists as well as Nazis. But since I don't know the guy, I'm not going to go to the mat for that interpretation. You may continue having your feathers ruffled if you choose. People might think too poorly of Putin otherwise!
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yikes

https://www.survivethenews.com/heres-why-ukraines-gur-and-not-isis-k-is-the-prime-suspect-in-the-crocus-terrorist-attack/
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Close cooperation between the U.S./CIA & ISIS is nothing new. The CIA has been working with ISIS for years in Syria.

Now the truth emerges: how the US fueled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

Note: This article is from June 2015

The U.S. NeoCons have supported ISIS in Syria, trying to oust Bashar-al-Assad, in a regime change operation.

Assad is defending Syria's sovereignty and his own regime, and is backed by Russia in that effort.

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John Mearsheimer's interview with Katie Halper.

In the first 40 minutes, Mearsheimer gives a real summary of the Ukraine-Russia War, with Ukraine's desperate situation, and the attempt by U.S. elites & corporate media to "double down" and somehow rescue their credibility.

John Mearsheimer Full Interview on the US role in Gaza and Ukraine

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Sheep or cult members?
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He could hit a few key centers with American and British advisors on the battlefield, and maybe move on Odessa.

I found the Moscow TV presenter made a few interesting points, including saying 'We have a strong manufacturing base... but a nation of 150 Million doesn't want to attack a contingent of 500 Million (EU).' Sadly, though, their militaries are minimal, and supplies are threadbare, which helps the wackos talk about limited nuclear strikes. Russia also produces ammunition more efficiently and cost effectively.
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This thread bleeds into an uncomfortable exercise in people sharing obscure social media posts confirming their preconceived beliefs. I guess that's been happening for a while. But when pieces can be put together to advance very out there consoiracy theories…
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