The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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In reply to cbbass1 • 5:52p, 6/7/25
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The U.S. has been the aggressor in this conflict .
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In reply to sycasey • 1:39p, 6/8/25
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cbbass1 said:
The U.S. has been the aggressor in this conflict .
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Yup. CIA / Victoria Nuland / MIC.
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2:50p, 6/8/25
I don't care whatever bad stuff you can point out from the US (much of this is bull***t anyway), it's ludicrous to say that any country other than Russia was THE aggressor in this war and completely reveals your bias.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:17p, 6/8/25
Chickens came home to roost. FAFO. Russia now stronger, we're weaker, NATO in tatters.
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In reply to movielover • 3:21p, 6/8/25
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Chickens came home to roost. FAFO. Russia now stronger, we're weaker, NATO in tatters.


Yeah, Russia really impressed losing $7B+ in military aircraft to $600 drones.
America is weaker because of the POTUS and because he is surrounded by demagogue incompetent loyalists.
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3:59p, 6/8/25
A podcast I listened to yesterday, possibly Jeffrey Sachs, made these new claims.

- Russia won't remove Zelensky, he is too useful now, with the attacks on the nuclear triad infrastructure, they will move this from a SMO to a CTO
- Russia is carefully tracing the control and command on this attack
- they believe that MI5 and CIA involved, triple checking
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In reply to bearister • 4:42p, 6/8/25
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movielover said:
Chickens came home to roost. FAFO. Russia now stronger, we're weaker, NATO in tatters.

Yeah, Russia really impressed losing $7B+ in military aircraft to $600 drones.
America is weaker because of the POTUS and because he is surrounded by demagogue incompetent loyalists.

You're not being well informed, the raid on Russian air bases resulted in less than 10 active planes being hit, around $1-$2 billion lost. In the same week, the Russians have destroyed Patriot missile installations worth almost as much.

NATO countries like Germany, France or the UK are reeling economically. Meanwhile Russia's GDP has grown by over 4% last year, the Ruble is the strongest currency in Europe with an increase of over 30% vs the US$ this year.

Trump was voted in because the American middle class has been reeling economically, purchasing power has been declining in the US and in nearly every other NATO country, while it is rising in Russia.
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In reply to Cal88 • 7:38p, 6/8/25
"Trump was voted in because the American middle class has been reeling economically, purchasing power has been declining ……"

How's that working out?

"President Trump's second term has been a payday for the powerful, exposing a disconnect in his promise to deliver for "the forgotten man" of America's working class.

Why it matters: The populist paradox at the heart of MAGA a movement fueled by economic grievance and championed by a New York billionaire has never been more pronounced, Axios' Tal Axelrod and Zachary Basu report.

Trump's blue-collar base remains fiercely loyal, energized by his hardline stances on immigration, trade and culture and patient that his economic "Golden Age" will materialize.

But so far, the clearest financial rewards of Trump's tenure are flowing upward to wealthy donors, family members, insiders, and the president himself.

The big picture: Trump's inner circle has shattered norms around profiting from the presidency, dulling public outrage to the point where even the most brazen access schemes draw only fleeting scrutiny.

Take crypto: The top holders of Trump's meme coin were granted an exclusive dinner last month at the president's Virginia golf club, where some paid millions for access.

The White House refused to release the guest list, but wealthy foreigners including a Chinese billionaire who faced SEC charges under the Biden administration were among those revealed to be in attendance.

Trump's sons, meanwhile, are spearheading a family crypto venture that has raked in hundreds of millions of dollars. Trump Media, the parent company of Truth Social, is raising $2.5 billion to buy Bitcoin.
All of this plus a flurry of lucrative real estate deals overseas is playing out as Trump presides over U.S. foreign policy and the fate of crypto regulation."
Axios

Trump was voted in by either selfish, short sighted really rich guys or the kind of chump's that applied to Trump University.
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In reply to bearister • 8:35a, 6/9/25
^So "meet the new boss" then?

Back to the thread:

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11:36a, 6/9/25


Advancing.

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11:07a, 6/11/25
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In reply to movielover • 11:19a, 6/11/25
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 11:25a, 6/11/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.


Wrong take.
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In reply to oski003 • 11:39a, 6/11/25
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.


Wrong take.
OK, I pulled the trigger on that before noticing that it was said to be a recruiting building (4 stories for a neighborhood recruiting office?). Still, we're taking the word of a Russian propaganda source that it's a recruiting office and not an apartment building. I'll remain skeptical until confirmed by a less partisan source.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 12:08p, 6/11/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.


Wrong take.
OK, I pulled the trigger on that before noticing that it was said to be a recruiting building (4 stories for a neighborhood recruiting office?). Still, we're taking the word of a Russian propaganda source that it's a recruiting office and not an apartment building. I'll remain skeptical until confirmed by a less partisan source.


It is always good to know something about something before giving expert advice on it.
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In reply to oski003 • 12:16p, 6/11/25
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.


Wrong take.
OK, I pulled the trigger on that before noticing that it was said to be a recruiting building (4 stories for a neighborhood recruiting office?). Still, we're taking the word of a Russian propaganda source that it's a recruiting office and not an apartment building. I'll remain skeptical until confirmed by a less partisan source.


It is always good to know something about something before giving expert advice on it.
Where did I claim to be an expert? Why should I be held to a different standard than everyone else around here?
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 12:20p, 6/11/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
movielover said:
So Russia is so surgical they can set a couple of apartments on the second floor of a building on fire and leave no outward signs of an explosion or missile strike? Looks like a typical apartment fire that's spread to a couple of neighboring units.


Wrong take.
OK, I pulled the trigger on that before noticing that it was said to be a recruiting building (4 stories for a neighborhood recruiting office?). Still, we're taking the word of a Russian propaganda source that it's a recruiting office and not an apartment building. I'll remain skeptical until confirmed by a less partisan source.


It is always good to know something about something before giving expert advice on it.
Where did I claim to be an expert? Why should I be held to a different standard than everyone else around here?


Yes, you are definitely not an expert. I will amend my statement. It it always good to be somewhat informed on something before making your biased opinion on it.
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In reply to oski003 • 12:48p, 6/11/25
Those posts are usually taken from Telegram streams that provide more local context. This is indeed a recruitment center in Kharkov.


This goes together with that:


For a more positive take on this angle - things are not as bad as they could be if you're a fit Ukrainian young man:
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7:08a, 6/12/25
Putin's Ukraine war toll tops 1MILLION Russians dead & wounded 40 months into 'days-long operation'…with no end in sight | The US Sun


https://www.the-sun.com/news/14457297/putin-ukraine-war-toll-one-million-deaths/

Russia recruits Cubans for the frontlines in Ukraine


https://san.com/cc/russia-recruits-cubans-for-the-frontlines-in-ukraine/
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In reply to bearister • 8:30a, 6/12/25
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Putin's Ukraine war toll tops 1MILLION Russians dead & wounded 40 months into 'days-long operation'…with no end in sight | The US Sun


https://www.the-sun.com/news/14457297/putin-ukraine-war-toll-one-million-deaths/

Russia recruits Cubans for the frontlines in Ukraine


https://san.com/cc/russia-recruits-cubans-for-the-frontlines-in-ukraine/

"According to the Ukrainian General Staff".

Mediazona's latest figure is 111k Russian KIAs.
https://en.zona.media/article/2025/06/06/casualties_eng-trl
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5:30p, 6/12/25
Fight the MIC.

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In reply to movielover • 6:07p, 6/12/25
movielover said:
Fight the MIC.


It's funny how the conscription gangs are usually big buff young dudes, usually going after middle aged fathers or even grandpas to be sent to the meat grinder while they hang out and party in the city...

This war is grotesque.
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In reply to movielover • 6:41p, 6/12/25
9/22:
"Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday signed a decree increasing prison sentences for those fleeing a mandatory call-up for military duty.

Under the decree, the penalty for evading military duty during mobilization was doubled from five to 10 years."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/putin-signs-decree-toughening-penalties-for-fleeing-russias-military-mobilization/2693846#:~:text=Russian%20President%20Vladimir%20Putin%20on,contact%20us%20for%20subscription%20options.
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11:05a, 6/13/25
Ukrainian nationalists apparently not too keen on freedom of religion.



Once again, big young dudes staffing the domestic stasi back in the cities, while the grandpas get shipped to the meat grinder at the border.
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:25p, 6/13/25
Zelensky reportedly drafting younger UKR.

The attack on the recruiter is the second I've seen recently.
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8:12a, 6/14/25
NYT: Russia's Summer Offensive in Ukraine Gains Ground With New Tactics

Russia is advancing around Kostyantynivka and in the Sumy region with small, fast-moving units as both side

"Russia's summer offensive in eastern Ukraine, launched in May, is showing battlefield gains across multiple fronts, probing and attacking with small, fast-moving units as fighting escalates daily.

"With its advance, Russia has shifted the war's rhythm. In May, Russian forces seized roughly 173 square miles, more than double April's gains, according to DeepState, a Ukrainian group that maps the conflict using combat footage. Most gains came south of Kostyantynivka, in the Donetsk region, and near the Russian border in the northern Sumy region.

"In a new development this spring, both sides have turned to motorcycles and civilian cars to quickly cross open terrain"
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In reply to movielover • 9:23a, 6/14/25
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In reply to bearister • 12:20p, 6/14/25
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