The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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tequila4kapp
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Cal88 said:




People said the same thing before WW2. Germany declared war on the U.S. So did Japan. Isolationism is just absolutely wrong.
movielover
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If we only kept our word to Gorby, "Not one inch Eastward".
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tequila4kapp
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Biden forgives almost 5B in loans given to Ukraine. This is bull*****
Cal88
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There is no way Ukraine is going to pay its war debt. Their currency and economy has only been propped by western capital, once the flow is reduced their currency is going to collapse. The reason the Hrivna is being propped is that Ukrainians would move to the Russian-held parts which will be functional, especially pensioners and retirees.

Blackrock and co. pushed for loans to Ukraine with the understanding that they would be repaid with Ukrainian arable land, minerals, mining rights and other assets. This is going to be a big problem politically speaking, as Ukrainians are not going to like having their assets stripped on top of a depleted male population and a destroyed economy.

They will try to appropriate seized Russian billions to remedy their situation, but the Russians will require a return of their assets as a basic condition for an end to the war, where they have had the upper hand and their advantage is only going to get wider.

So bottom line, we have to eat Ukrainian debt, it's the least we could do knowing that we have pushed Ukraine to fight a war they cannot win.
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I hate "debt forgiveness". It's like the student-loan thing. What about the people that didn't take out loans? An easy compromise is to defer the debts over a long period, but don't forgive them.
sycasey
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The Ukrainian economy is going to collapse after Trump pulls support, allows Russia to take a bunch of territory, and the country is left as one constantly under threat of further Russian takeover. Foreign businesses won't want to invest time or resources there, under those conditions.
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