Newsweek: Negotiations or Deals Trump Administration Has Worked On

Armenia and Azerbaijan (August)
Thailand and Cambodia (July)
Israel and Iran (June)
Rwanda and Democratic Republic of the Congo (June)
India and Pakistan (May)

movielover said:

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Putin visiting the USA is a big change.

The Biden administration supported an International Criminal Court arrest warrant.

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— il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) August 8, 2025

bear2034 said:

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President Trump has 95% negative Media coverage with 11 peace agreements.

President Obama had 95% positive Media coverage with 0 peace agreements.

One man works for peace and is hated and one man did not and is worshipped.

Very telling… pic.twitter.com/xrCB5OCpBF

— C3 (@C_3C_3) August 8, 2025

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Yup. The Drone President got a Nobel Peace Prize before his seat WH was even warm. Ridiculous.

And what if NATO and Zelensky don't buy in?

We can cut off funding. I saw a report that we're rerouting military supplies to our stockpile.

Might POTUS use a new Russia-USA trade agreement and Russia supplying us with 'rare earth materials' as a big beautiful bonus? Maybe Russia mines the new territories, and gives Ukraine a small piece.

No way does the EU agree unless there is a combined military deterrent in Ukraine

"The answer to the Ukrainian territorial question already is in the Constitution of Ukraine. No one will deviate from thisand no one will be able to. Ukrainians will not gift their land to the occupier," Zelenskyy.

So, whose country is it then? Zelenskiy not allowed? What a crock!!

F turnip, and F putin. They can go rot together.

movielover said:

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Some argue this has been a war of liberation, not conquest.

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I would be interested in seeing the list of names that have argued that. We will reserve slot # 1 on that list for Col. Macgregor. 2nd position secured by Tulsi Gabbard.

🇭🇺🇷🇺🇺🇦 Hungarian Prime Minister Orban: “Ukrainians lost the war. Russia won this war.” pic.twitter.com/F69GugI4Lr

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 12, 2025

🇷🇺🇺🇸🇺🇦 Zelensky: “Ukraine has received a signal from Witkoff that Russia is ready to end the war. At least, to cease fire. This is the first signal from them.“

Interesting pic.twitter.com/qLGvUx0C82

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 12, 2025

movielover said:

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🇭🇺🇷🇺🇺🇦 Hungarian Prime Minister Orban: “Ukrainians lost the war. Russia won this war.” pic.twitter.com/F69GugI4Lr

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 12, 2025

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'Russians are a warring nation. They have fought many wars. My friend said that Russia is strong because they just keep fighting. They defeated Hitler. We did too. And they defeated Napoleon. You know, they've been doing this for a very long time.

I asked a very smart person, whom some like and some don't. Viktor Orban. I asked, "So can Ukraine defeat Russia?" He looked at me as if I had asked a stupid question. He said, "Russia is a huge country. And they fought to live. They fight that's what they do." He also said, "China beats you with trade, and Russia with war. That was a very interesting statement."

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Looks like Orban set Trump straight on the real nature and outcome of the Ukraine war, so he's likely to go into the negotiations with Putin with much more realistic and pragmatic starting points. Trump was also likely briefed on current happenings along the border, the situation is becoming increasingly untenable for the Ukrainian army.

Trump will have to pull the plug on Ukraine for Kiev to come to a realistic starting point though:

Zelensky announces:

"If we leave Donbas, we will start a third war." pic.twitter.com/7zJiXxosuW

— S p r i n t e r (@SprinterObserve) August 12, 2025

movielover said:

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A third war where?

NATO / USA / CIA lost the war; Ukraine lost 1.8 million men, plus desserters and millions of evacuees. Historians allege this goes back to the fall of the USSR, and Globalists and the USA goal of creating a hegemony while also breaking Russia into pieces for their $50 Trillion in natural wealth.

In defense of Zelensky, he probably has AZOV guards on him and his family 24 / 7, and a pack of hyenas skimming 50% off of everything which enters the country. Some of that stops w a peace deal.

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Russia's natural ressource wealth is much more than $50 Trillion, more like $75 Trillion. In addition to this, they also have a large sector of heavy industry and primary/transformation industry (steel, aluminum, fertilizer, lumber, concrete etc). If left alone to develop, Russia will become the wealthiest country in Europe by a wide margin, it is a natural superpower.



Zelensky's close guard is reportedly run by British SAS, so he does have to maintain a fairly belligerent line, as the Brits are the biggest proponents of this conflict in Europe.

By third war, Zelensky means a war down the line to follow the ongoing one, which is the second war, the first one being the ATO ("Anti-Terrorist Operation") which the post-Maidan regime conducted against the Donbas rebels. That war was officially ended with the Minsk Agreements, though the Ukrainians broke the ceasefire on many occasions, notably with sporadic bombing of the city of Donetsk, capital of the Donbas.

Of course the second war was the SMO ("Special Military Operation") started by Russia in late Feb. 22 as a preemptive response to Kiev having massed 60,000 troops to wipe out the Donbas rebels.

The idea of the third war is for Ukraine to rebuild its forces in 5 to 10 years after a long ceasefire in a vain attempt to reconquer Crimea and the 4 eastern oblasts.

The one good thing about Zelensky talking about the third war here is that it establishes from the horses mouth that the current war is not the first one, and that the conflict really started in 2014.

Some good news, the message is now getting to the neocons, they now realize they have to end the war now lest Russia completely overrun Ukraine.

🇷🇺🇺🇦🇺🇸 When Lindsey Graham wants to end a war … it’s means they’re losing badly.

That is a rare moment when Graham wants peace, it means it really over for Zelensky. pic.twitter.com/Ij0IPJiaML

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 12, 2025

I probably read more broadly than most Americans - most aren't even tuned into the war - yet I am no expert. [Insert DiabloWags insult.]

This said, I've noticed the past month or two that light-in-the-loafers LG is viewed very poorly. Many view him as a hopeless warmonger. [Insert another DiabloWags insult.] More people seem specifically on to LG. I wonder if that has played a role. Or maybe he just doesn't want to be on the losing side.

Colonel MacGregor has turned on Trump, as has low-lQ-dog-barking Scott Ritter. Hey, Trump ain't perfect.

But he's the only major figure I can see who wants to stop the killing. NATO / CIA want blood, and to avoid a humiliating defeat. I can't figure out the toothless decaying EU: few weapons or personnel, money doesn't match their mouth, but trying to run the show. Maybe still butthurt a Yank Conservative is running the show. These are the intelligent Green ignoramuses who shut down Green nuclear power!

Trump has to work around our corrupt CIA who want to save face and the UniParty MIC, and may add a dramatic new angle if the USA and Russia start doing business together. They despise Trump. My DC friend claims to be an Independent but can't stand him - a former politician and now DC prof, who is shockingly uninformed. Imagine President Trump securing a 6th peace deal in 9 months. Sploddy heads.

Reportedly four significant population centers are crumbling under pressure: Kupiansk, Siversk, Konstantinivka, and Prokovsk - pre-war population 85,000. Ukrainian defense lines around and within the city have broken down. Russian forces are already in the city. Supply and exit routes to the north and west are barely passable.

A secondary defensive line is reportedly 20 mikes to the rear, but Ukrainian forces unlikely to fall back.

FORTRESS EUROPE? President Trump was ridiculed by the Europeans when he warned them against relying on Russia for their energy and refused to invest 2% in their own military defense. Today Europe is building weapons manufacturing capacity and production faster than during the… pic.twitter.com/PWugykruM3

— @amuse (@amuse) August 13, 2025

movielover said:

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FORTRESS EUROPE? President Trump was ridiculed by the Europeans when he warned them against relying on Russia for their energy and refused to invest 2% in their own military defense. Today Europe is building weapons manufacturing capacity and production faster than during the… pic.twitter.com/PWugykruM3

— @amuse (@amuse) August 13, 2025

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That guy Amuse is way off his rocker, Germany producing more weapons now than in 1943?? They produced 11,000 tanks and 20,000 airplanes in 1943! This is a really poor attempt at journalism.

Can we pay Zelensky in confiscated cartel blow?

🇺🇦🇺🇸🇩🇪 Zelensky was afraid to give demands to Trump, so he went to Germany

Now Merz called Trump and said “Zelensky wants a trillion Dollars in reparations, and will NOT recognize the loss of territories.

Thats your constraint Donald when talking to Putin.” pic.twitter.com/1Oga0Y081M

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 13, 2025

Agreed. Some suggest if Russia advances past the current defensive lines, there's a lot of open ground til the next fortifications.

Even if President Trump secures a peace deal the next six months, it seems likely to restart after he departs.

Recently heard a prognosticator say in December of 2021 Biden, in a call w Putin, agreed to no offensive weapons in Ukraine.

Then the infamous rambling Jan. 19th press conference where gaffe-prone Biden let out a whopper: Russia, he suggested, would face but minor consequences if it restrained itself to a "minor incursion" into Ukraine.

Then in early Feb of 2022, Blinken replied, "WE didn't agree to that [no offensive weapons] ... we can talk about how many, but there is no ban."

Good reminder about a key event before the start of the Russian invasion, Russia wanted no NATO enlargement into Ukraine as a key condition.

This is the previous NATO boss, outlining his plans to enlarge NATO at all costs.

He is badmouthing Putin for suggesting a way out of a future war.

Stoltenberg is proud that NATO did not accept that peace offer and caused the war.

From bad to worse. 🤮pic.twitter.com/zjmHTl8sk9

— Alternative News (@AlternatNews) August 13, 2025

The great majority of Ukrainians want a negotiated settlement with Russia, so the way out is to have elections there. Zelensky is a highly unpopular figure in Ukraine.

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Poll: 69% of Ukrainians Want Negotiated End to War as Soon as Possible
By Dave DeCamp, Antiwar.com, August 10, 2025

Just 24% of Ukrainians want to keep fighting, a near complete reversal of public opinion since 2022.
Gallup released a new poll on Thursday that found 69% of Ukrainians favor a negotiated end to the war with Russia as soon as possible, while just 24% want to keep fighting until "victory," a near complete reversal of public opinion from when Russia invaded more than three years ago.
When Gallup first asked the question to Ukrainians in 2022, it found 72% wanted to continue fighting and just 22% wanted a negotiated settlement. As the war progressed, the number of Ukrainians who favored a peace deal increased, and it became a majority for the first time when Gallup released a poll in November 2024, finding that 52% wanted negotiations to end the conflict.

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https://worldbeyondwar.org/poll-69-of-ukrainians-want-negotiated-end-to-war-as-soon-as-possible/

I think it was Mearsheimer that recently said Trump needs to acknowledge and communicate our role, how we got here, before providing possible solutions. Most Americans probably don't recall the implosion of the USSR, our promises, arms treaties we pulled out of, Minsk I, Minsk II, 2014, the Civil War, etc. Trump wants to stop the killing, but either he or his team don't want to bring the public along. Or the MIC doesn't want the sunlight.