Zelenskyy calls for an Air and Sea truce - as an Interim proposal for Ceasefire ahead of talks with U.S team in Saudi Arabia.

Zelensky's proposal for Russia to stop the air and sea combat operations - while simultaneously supporting frontline combat operations - is essentially an EU effort to maintain the fight by counteracting the Trump pressure point.

In the face of pressure from Trump - and with Russia saying no to ceasefire and also advancing in Kursk - he's trying.

Russia refusing a cease fire and advancing on Kursk … Trump HAS to pivot and apply pressure on Russia or help Ukraine.

The Atlantic.

From the Ukrainian channel RezidentUA:

Our source in the General Staff reports that Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region are being destroyed as some of their best units attempt to retreat without ordersonly to end up in kill zones. Once again, Syrsky failed to issue a timely withdrawal order despite requests from field commanders and the worsening tactical encirclement. Supply routes have been under fire for a week, and bridges have been destroyed. Today alone, nearly a thousand troops have been lost, along with a hundred pieces of equipment. The battle in Kursk is turning into a meat grinder.

No diversity.

😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/WMsvxaFU8A

— il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) March 8, 2025

bearister said:

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Thanks, and nice post.

My grandfather was hard to kill. Denis Leary has a quote about men of that generation that comes to mind:

"Men who drank and fought and puked and ate raw meat right off the bone and drank some more and fought some more and puked again and kept on drinking. Men who died of massive heart attacks or sudden brain seizures or who just plain f@ucking blew up. Men who had cancer six or seven times. Men made of leather."

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Cheers.

That description fits to a T a close family friend who was a WW1 vet and lived past 100 years. He spent several weeks stuck into a huge crater half-filled with muddy water, his squad was pinned down by heavy German artillery and machine gun fire.

movielover said:

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The Atlantic.

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I know, I know... The Atlantic.

But imagine how tough they must have it, trying to carve out a little space for themselves in a world in which most of the space for reputable journalism is already taken up by heavy hitters such as The Vigilant Fox, amuse, Lord Bebo, DC Draino, et. al.

Well, Denis Leary's quote was well received here so I'll drop the full quote on youses:

"I pine for the sheer stupidity of the old macho days, when men would brandish hammers and build huge, bulky cars that sucked up gas and tore open the ozone layer and crushed small animals beneath totally useless but totally cool-looking tailfins. When men were apes with good shoes and a dental plan. John Wayne, John Huston, Bill Holden, Bob Mitchum, Clark Gable, Babe Ruth, Lee Marvin, Sam Peckinpah. Men who drank and fought and puked and ate raw meat right off the bone and drank some more and fought some more and puked again and kept on drinking. Men who died of massive heart attacks or sudden brain seizures or who just plain f@ucking blew up. Men who had cancer six or seven times. Men made of leather."

Big C said:

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movielover said:

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The Atlantic.

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I know, I know... The Atlantic.

But imagine how tough they must have it, trying to carve out a little space for themselves in a world in which most of the space for reputable journalism is already taken up by heavy hitters such as The Vigilant Fox, amuse, Lord Bebo, DC Draino, et. al.

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Lord Bebo has been very much on target wrt the Ukraine war. The Atlantic on the other hand is the current-day NATO version of Pravda, their narrative is now falling apart.

The other sources above don't cover Ukraine much.

BREAKING — In its first days of fighting without US support, Ukraine’s troops have been compelled to relinquish more territory in the Kursk region that they had seized from Russia last year, according to the Financial Times.

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) March 9, 2025

Why not? Start w a modest contingent.

Orban Says Budapest and Washington Set To Agree on an Economic Cooperation Package To Offset Heavy Tariffs Reports Claim Trump May Move Troops From Germany to Hungary

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/orban-says-budapest-washington-set-agree-economic-cooperation/

Apparently the Ukrainians are more American than Americans lol.

This stunt the Europeans pulled with Romania isn’t just about disliking the election winner—it’s about geography. Romania is a key southern front, and conveniently, it’s where NATO is building a massive base. They can’t have Georgescu getting in the way of their war fantasies.

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) March 10, 2025

It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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That I think is the biggest issue. Trump SUCKS at Game Theory. I mean REALLY sucks at it.

You can not threaten and then back down. You lose credibility which means the NEXT time you threaten the other guy doesn't think you mean it.

And it isn't just Ukraine. His tariffs flip flopping is a ****ing disaster and is sowing chaos. I know in my own small business (and personal fiinances) we are pulling back till we get clarity and some stability.

movielover said:

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This stunt the Europeans pulled with Romania isn’t just about disliking the election winner—it’s about geography. Romania is a key southern front, and conveniently, it’s where NATO is building a massive base. They can’t have Georgescu getting in the way of their war fantasies.

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) March 10, 2025

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Thanks russkie.

sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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Isn't Trump implementing more sanctions on Russia and didn't Rubio just talk about hoping to resupply Ukraine after the Saudi talks on Tuesday? What specifically is your tweeter asking for?

We must protect democracy...unless the people make the wrong choice. --every authoritarian leftist these days

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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Isn't Trump implementing more sanctions on Russia and didn't Rubio just talk about hoping to resupply Ukraine after the Saudi talks on Tuesday? What specifically is your tweeter asking for?

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How long do we think that will hold? Until JD Vance gets p***ed at another thing Zelenskyy said?

Zippergate said:

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We must protect democracy...unless the people make the wrong choice. --every authoritarian leftist these days

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20ndg1eeeno

The actual story rather than stupid right-wing style of "argument" is a lot more complicated.

sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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Isn't Trump implementing more sanctions on Russia and didn't Rubio just talk about hoping to resupply Ukraine after the Saudi talks on Tuesday? What specifically is your tweeter asking for?

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How long do we think that will hold? Until JD Vance gets p***ed at another thing Zelenskyy said?

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What specifically is your tweeter asking for? We had been publicly finding Ukraine since 2014 (and covertly prior), so the first time it lasted almost 11 years. I can't speak for how long we will continue to do so.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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Isn't Trump implementing more sanctions on Russia and didn't Rubio just talk about hoping to resupply Ukraine after the Saudi talks on Tuesday? What specifically is your tweeter asking for?

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I think what people are saying is that some disruptive behavior is fine, especially when it has some semblance of underlying order and purpose. But if it is just discord for discords sake then it does actual damage to our economy and ability to implement policy going forward.

oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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It’s Monday. Trump made his threat against Russia on Friday, telling them to stop escalating attacks in Ukraine. Russia just spent all weekend escalating attacks, including on civilian areas.

Putin told Trump to pound sand. Now what? These threats can’t keep being reneged on.

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) March 10, 2025

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Isn't Trump implementing more sanctions on Russia and didn't Rubio just talk about hoping to resupply Ukraine after the Saudi talks on Tuesday? What specifically is your tweeter asking for?

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How long do we think that will hold? Until JD Vance gets p***ed at another thing Zelenskyy said?

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What specifically is your tweeter asking for? We had been publicly finding Ukraine since 2014 (and covertly prior), so the first time it lasted almost 11 years. I can't speak for how long we will continue to do so.

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Man, I'm not in his head, why don't you go and ask him?

What's stupid is calling the winner of an election "a figure from the extreme fringe of Romanian politics."
Shades of Russia Russia Russia.
In any case, it's hilarious to watch authoritarians clutch their peals over Russian election interference when you had the British Labour Party on the ground openly politicking for Harris just a few months ago. Or the CIA/Soros Maidan coup. The US rigs elections all the time, and they use a heckuva a lot more than Tiktok to do it.

Quick primer on Romania:
-right winger wins election
-election gets canceled by EU
-New election process begins
-EU bans him from running
-NATO base is being built to wage war on Russia
-Romanians don't want it, the EU/NATO demons don't care

Then they lecture you about democracy

— Clint Russell (@LibertyLockPod) March 9, 2025

The UK, EU and NATO partners launch a "massive wave" of drone attacks against Moscow

The attack comes, predictably, as Team Trump envoys arrive in Saudi Arabia for preliminary face-to-face talks with Ukraine officials. The pattern repeats itself.

Every time ate diplomats meet w Russia or Ukraine, the intelligence apparatus in control of the NATO proxy war triggers an escalating disruption targeting Russia.

Hopefully Putin doesn't take the bait.

Some argue that the EU and NATO must also suffer strong geopolitical consequences.

🇺🇦🇷🇺 UKRAINE ATTACKED CIVILIANS IN MOSCOW!

Ukraine stared a big drone strike on Moscow today, but the devious part is, that it was aimed at civilians and the drones were packed full with metal bearings to inflict as much injuries as possible.

-> People were sleeping in their… pic.twitter.com/17DFLAqDBz

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) March 11, 2025

Peace is the Prize.

UKRAINE: Zelensky has agreed to enter into a ceasefire and begin immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable. pic.twitter.com/5AmmM09WIS

— @amuse (@amuse) March 11, 2025

movielover said:

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Peace is the Prize.

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You will change your story once Putin wants everything East of the Dneiper, arguing that is the only way to preserv

NATO lost, FAFO. The war should have never happened. Russia is now much stronger, NATO / EU in shambles. But C-A got to play w drones.

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movielover said:

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Peace is the Prize.

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You will change your story once Putin wants everything East of the Dneiper, arguing that is the only way to preserv

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Drone wave strikes on random Moscow civilians are increasing the chance of Russia moving to the Dniepr. They will at the very least require that Ukraine be demilitarized.

Tucker Carlson just interviewed Colonel MacGregor. I only listened to 15 minutes. MacGregor claims we have extremely limited ammunition and missile supplies ourselves - I believe he said maybe a week to ten days. (Which means we threw everything at Russia.)

MacGregor seemed ominous.

86% of Poles want them to stay out of it. "The only thing the French army can do is go on safari in Africa."

Trump's instincts are good. If we get into a war, we will have multiple enemies. China, BRICS, Iran. Stay out of war. "We'll be buried by conventional weapons."

Netanyahu wants to drag us into war (Iran).

movielover said:

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NATO lost, FAFO. The war should have never happened. Russia is now much stronger, NATO / EU in shambles. But C-A got to play w drones.

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Please explain how losing tens of thousands of troops and a crapload of tanks and equipment makes a military stronger. And, yes, Russia had built up a whole bunch of ammunition, but now a lot of that is buried in Ukrainian soil. Are they going to dig it up and recycle it?

Maybe Russia is stronger in the sense that they saw how screwed up they were in 2022-23 and are able to make adjustments for the future... to be less incompetent.

Call me crazy, but I still favor NATO over Russia.

Big C said:

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movielover said:

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NATO lost, FAFO. The war should have never happened. Russia is now much stronger, NATO / EU in shambles. But C-A got to play w drones.

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Please explain how losing tens of thousands of troops and a crapload of tanks and equipment makes a military stronger. And, yes, Russia had built up a whole bunch of ammunition, but now a lot of that is buried in Ukrainian soil. Are they going to dig it up and recycle it?

Maybe Russia is stronger in the sense that they saw how screwed up they were in 2022-23 and are able to make adjustments for the future... to be less incompetent.

Call me crazy, but I still favor NATO over Russia.

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The Russians have lost tens of thousands of troops, and added hundreds of thousands who are now trained in 21st century warfare. They produce 4 million shells/yr and produce/refurbish 2,000 tanks/yr. Most of the perception of Russian incompetence boils down to western cultural hubris.

NATO's military strength is rooted in its air force, which is largely ineffective against Russia's air defenses.

Big C said:

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movielover said:

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NATO lost, FAFO. The war should have never happened. Russia is now much stronger, NATO / EU in shambles. But C-A got to play w drones.

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Please explain how losing tens of thousands of troops and a crapload of tanks and equipment makes a military stronger. And, yes, Russia had built up a whole bunch of ammunition, but now a lot of that is buried in Ukrainian soil. Are they going to dig it up and recycle it?

Maybe Russia is stronger in the sense that they saw how screwed up they were in 2022-23 and are able to make adjustments for the future... to be less incompetent.

Call me crazy, but I still favor NATO over Russia.

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Russia now:

- has a 1.3 M man trained, experienced military; not classes or video games, actual warfare
- overcame their weak spot in drone technology
- robust manufacturing now even stronger
- alliance w Iran
- alliance w North Korean manufacturers who have shipped massive numbers of containers to the front lines
- meanwhile, MacGregor says even the US stockpile - tapped out by Israel and Ukraine '- is threadbare
- Russia now has midrange 'escalatory dominance' with their hypersonic missiles - which we can't stop. They're now experimenting with mission-specific modifications
- Europe can't provide manpower or ammunition
- you favor NATO for what? Targeting?