The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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Cal88
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philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
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Don't listen to the NATO propaganda, folks, only the Russian stuff! And maybe the Chinese and Iranian propaganda too. But that's it!
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Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
It is fantastic that you - of all people - are complaining about the reliability of third party claims. You post twitter links and other "sources" that support your fringe views, even if from biased or questionable (or completely discredited) sources. Most of the crap you post is from totally unrecognizable and unreliable sourcing.

Similarly, you forfeit the right to assert gas lighting when you post frivolous genocide claims. You're on the side of Putin and Hamas . . . which is really all anyone needs to know.
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
It is fantastic that you - of all people - are complaining about the reliability of third party claims. You post twitter links and other "sources" that support your fringe views, even if from biased or questionable (or completely discredited) sources. Most of the crap you post is from totally unrecognizable and unreliable sourcing.

Similarly, you forfeit the right to assert gas lighting when you post frivolous genocide claims. You're on the side of Putin and Hamas . . . which is really all anyone needs to know.



Weren't you the guy who argued last year that Israel really wasn't carpet-bombig Gaza, and was definitely not ethnic cleansing the Palestinians??

Conflating the Gaza genocide, which is corroborated by the ICJ, the Lancet and many other independent sources, with support for Hamas is your other standard cheap trick, par for the course for hardcore zionists.

If you want to counter any assertion I have made in this thread about Ukraine, feel free to do so.
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sycasey said:

Don't listen to the NATO propaganda, folks, only the Russian stuff! And maybe the Chinese and Iranian propaganda too. But that's it!

NATO's propaganda is well funded....by us! (Props to Poland too.).
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movielover
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bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

88 do you think Tulsi will give Assad safe harbor at her place?

Bad for Assad. If he could have held out until she was confirmed, his life would have been alot simpler. But, he's safe in Moscow. lol

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry would offer Assad a room at their homes.


Pelosi's husband is on his last leg, Assad might be able to liven up her nightcaps.
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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
It is fantastic that you - of all people - are complaining about the reliability of third party claims. You post twitter links and other "sources" that support your fringe views, even if from biased or questionable (or completely discredited) sources. Most of the crap you post is from totally unrecognizable and unreliable sourcing.

Similarly, you forfeit the right to assert gas lighting when you post frivolous genocide claims. You're on the side of Putin and Hamas . . . which is really all anyone needs to know.



Weren't you the guy who argued last year that Israel really wasn't carpet-bombig Gaza, and was definitely not ethnic cleansing the Palestinians??

Conflating the Gaza genocide, which is corroborated by the ICJ, the Lancet and many other independent sources, with support for Hamas is your other standard cheap trick, par for the course for hardcore zionists.

If you want to counter any assertion I have made in this thread about Ukraine, feel free to do so.
Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza. They are, for the most part, using precision guided weapons which is literally the opposite of carpet bombing. Full stop. That is a fact. This is what happens in a war including any war the US has fought in the past 25+ years.

And it is quite funny that you have cited the highly biased ICJ. Do you know who else the ICJ has targeted for arrest? Your buddy Putin. They also accused all of the leadership of Hamas of war crimes (before they were killed). Yet you have nothing to say about that.

In terms of your Ukraine propaganda, you have discredited yourself so completely - on all fronts - I could not begin to list all the times. You have been a consistent defender of Putin and posted only the most biased sources.

I believe you're also the guy who referred to Assad as an eye doctor who wasn't a full dictator/authoritarian, but not someone who committed actual genocide. Care to double down on that position?
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movielover said:

bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

88 do you think Tulsi will give Assad safe harbor at her place?

Bad for Assad. If he could have held out until she was confirmed, his life would have been alot simpler. But, he's safe in Moscow. lol

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry would offer Assad a room at their homes.


Pelosi's husband is on his last leg, Assad might be able to liven up her nightcaps.
there you are movielover. Where ya been? Not walkin in downtown alone at night again, are ya?

Hey didn't I debunk this twitter crapola? This is what happens when you miss posts.
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Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
No, it IS cheerleading. Let's be very clear about that. You're not open to any logical discussion about Ukraine and the history between them and Russia. You're also quite off on your estimations of Russia's success in the war and the sustainability of Russia's campaign in Ukraine. In short, Russia has neither the capability in terms of manpower or the manufacturing structure to continue building weapons at a necessary rate.

Russia's economy is soon to be at an impasse. As they continue to grow their defense budget, their central bank inreased interest rates to 21% to fight inflation. They are reducing investment into their railway industry. This does not bode well for trade with China, upon which they rely on railroads to move goods.

They added over 500,000 workers to the defense industry and 180k to their armed forces. But no matter how many men they add to the military, they are no longer able to produce enough weapons at a rate needed to replace those lost on the battlefield. Half of all artillery shells Russians use are now coming from North Korea. Estimates are that at some point during the later half of 2025, they fill face severe shortages.

Russia has a severe production problem with its inability to replace large-caliber cannons. Military analysts are saying that Russia has been losing more than 100 tanks and roughly 220 artillery pieces per month on average. As far as producing tank and artillery barrels - this requires massive pieces of equipment that weigh 20 to 30 tons eachthat can each produce only about 10 barrels a month. Russia only has two. The only place that Russia could get new forges is Australia. And North Korea and China don't have significant stockpiles of barrels to assist Russia producing new artillery or tank barrels.

The other consideration is that, with unemployment so low in Russia (because most are now employed in the defense industry sector), it is difficult to find and attract employees. These defense companies are now offering bonuses and incentives to get people to work. However, they are now competing with the armed forces, who need at least 30,000 per month to replace casualties. Armed forces are now also offering incentives to enlist and paying more money. Of course, this has led to inflation. Inflation in Russia was at 8.6% in October. Its 9.5% the first 20 days into this month. Civilian sectors of the economy are the sectors most hurt by inflation and interest rates.

But this is the paradox for Russia: large military expenditures, which are unsustainable in the long term, are artificially boosting employment and growth. Since growth is in the defense industry sector alone, they add nothing else to other sectors of the civilian economy.

So, if my read of literature from Economist, Foreign Policy, National Defense Magazine is correct, they all estimate that Russia will be unable to produce enough armaments to be able to conduct the war effectively by mid to late 2025. From Foreign Policy:

Concluding a peace agreement, however, poses a different set of problems, as the Kremlin needs to choose between three unpalatable options. If it draws down the armed forces and defense industries, it will spark a recession that could threaten the regime. If Russian policymakers instead maintain high levels of defense spending and a bloated peacetime military, it will asphyxiate the Russian economy, crowding out civilian industry, and stifle growth.

And here we are, history repeating all over again - an oversized defense budget and wartime economy that is unsustainable finally culminating in either an economic collapse or entire regime change. Regardless, Russia's economy as it stands now is not sustainable and certainly won't be to the extent that they will have the capability to fight beyond 2025.
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I'm sure Cal88 will be along soon with 6-8 tweets from little known people with unknown credentials to refute the above post.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

I'm sure Cal88 will be along soon with 6-8 tweets from little known people with unknown credentials to refute the above post.

Exactly.

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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
It is fantastic that you - of all people - are complaining about the reliability of third party claims. You post twitter links and other "sources" that support your fringe views, even if from biased or questionable (or completely discredited) sources. Most of the crap you post is from totally unrecognizable and unreliable sourcing.

Similarly, you forfeit the right to assert gas lighting when you post frivolous genocide claims. You're on the side of Putin and Hamas . . . which is really all anyone needs to know.



Weren't you the guy who argued last year that Israel really wasn't carpet-bombig Gaza, and was definitely not ethnic cleansing the Palestinians??

Conflating the Gaza genocide, which is corroborated by the ICJ, the Lancet and many other independent sources, with support for Hamas is your other standard cheap trick, par for the course for hardcore zionists.

If you want to counter any assertion I have made in this thread about Ukraine, feel free to do so.

Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza. They are, for the most part, using precision guided weapons which is literally the opposite of carpet bombing. Full stop. That is a fact.



"Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza!"





You might want to check those goggles of yours. Most of the stuff you have said about the ongoing genocide is out there, but this is beyond the pale,










Cal88
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philly1121 said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
No, it IS cheerleading. Let's be very clear about that. You're not open to any logical discussion about Ukraine and the history between them and Russia. You're also quite off on your estimations of Russia's success in the war and the sustainability of Russia's campaign in Ukraine. In short, Russia has neither the capability in terms of manpower or the manufacturing structure to continue building weapons at a necessary rate.

Russia's economy is soon to be at an impasse. As they continue to grow their defense budget, their central bank inreased interest rates to 21% to fight inflation. They are reducing investment into their railway industry. This does not bode well for trade with China, upon which they rely on railroads to move goods.

They added over 500,000 workers to the defense industry and 180k to their armed forces. But no matter how many men they add to the military, they are no longer able to produce enough weapons at a rate needed to replace those lost on the battlefield. Half of all artillery shells Russians use are now coming from North Korea. Estimates are that at some point during the later half of 2025, they fill face severe shortages.

Russia has a severe production problem with its inability to replace large-caliber cannons. Military analysts are saying that Russia has been losing more than 100 tanks and roughly 220 artillery pieces per month on average. As far as producing tank and artillery barrels - this requires massive pieces of equipment that weigh 20 to 30 tons eachthat can each produce only about 10 barrels a month. Russia only has two. The only place that Russia could get new forges is Australia. And North Korea and China don't have significant stockpiles of barrels to assist Russia producing new artillery or tank barrels.

The other consideration is that, with unemployment so low in Russia (because most are now employed in the defense industry sector), it is difficult to find and attract employees. These defense companies are now offering bonuses and incentives to get people to work. However, they are now competing with the armed forces, who need at least 30,000 per month to replace casualties. Armed forces are now also offering incentives to enlist and paying more money. Of course, this has led to inflation. Inflation in Russia was at 8.6% in October. Its 9.5% the first 20 days into this month. Civilian sectors of the economy are the sectors most hurt by inflation and interest rates.

But this is the paradox for Russia: large military expenditures, which are unsustainable in the long term, are artificially boosting employment and growth. Since growth is in the defense industry sector alone, they add nothing else to other sectors of the civilian economy.

So, if my read of literature from Economist, Foreign Policy, National Defense Magazine is correct, they all estimate that Russia will be unable to produce enough armaments to be able to conduct the war effectively by mid to late 2025. From Foreign Policy:

Concluding a peace agreement, however, poses a different set of problems, as the Kremlin needs to choose between three unpalatable options. If it draws down the armed forces and defense industries, it will spark a recession that could threaten the regime. If Russian policymakers instead maintain high levels of defense spending and a bloated peacetime military, it will asphyxiate the Russian economy, crowding out civilian industry, and stifle growth.

And here we are, history repeating all over again - an oversized defense budget and wartime economy that is unsustainable finally culminating in either an economic collapse or entire regime change. Regardless, Russia's economy as it stands now is not sustainable and certainly won't be to the extent that they will have the capability to fight beyond 2025.


This has got to be one of the dumbest argument you have made to date on this thread, among your many notable other contributions, the notion that Russia is losing the war of attrition in Ukraine.

Russia has been producing more tanks and shells than all of NATO combined, many more times actually.

A year or two ago, this was a common argument in the MSM, that Russia was going to run out of whatever it needs to produce weapons - manpower, chips, ball bearings, funds etc - Well two years later and Russia is still ramping up production of shells, tanks, missiles etc.

Russia's weapons production has actually increased dramatically despite Western sanctions, report says
26 June 2024 Featured in NBC News

INDUSTRIAL WARFARE PAPER
"Western sanctions have failed to undermine Russia's weapons production and Moscow has even managed to ramp up the manufacturing of key weapons to fuel its war against Ukraine, according to a new report by a London-based think tank."
https://rusi.org/news-and-comment/in-the-news/russias-weapons-production-has-actually-increased-dramatically-despite-western-sanctions-report-says


So now the pro-war MSM is claiming that the Russian economy is going to collapse when in fact it has been growing and has overtook Japan and Germany to become the 4th largest economy in the world.



This kind of reminds me of U2Sucks' relaying of articles like these that predicted that Russia's economy would collapse due to sanctions:

https://www.dw.com/en/yale-study-shows-sanctions-are-crippling-russias-economy/a-62623738


You claim Russia is losing 30,000 troops per month, while the BBC's Mediazona, the most reliable source for tracking Russian casualties places the number of Russian KIAs at 80,000 for the entire war.

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What is this guy smoking? Russia might hit a production wall in late 2025? Meanwhile, NATO / EU has been gagging on production fumes for 18 months, actually rationing artillery shells. This was publicly stated by the head of NATOs European command two years ago. The West abandoned manufacturing, and Europe relied on the Yanks for defense. Some EU countries only have weeks of ammunition stockpiles. That's why, in desperation, they provided Ukraine with cluster bombs.

On top of this, he ignores the manufacturing cooperation with North Korea, a perfect win win for the pair. Russia provides energy and food to NK, and NK provides artillery ammunition. FTR, NK isn't producing iPhone(s), flat screens, Barbie dolls or Dollar Store junk, so they can focus on 155 shells. Not to mention Iran's help.

I'd imagine if President Trump brokers a peace deal - he should finally get a Nobel Peace Prize - Russia will spend time replenishing their military stockpiles.

Concurrently, they can channel their efforts into rebuilding their newly acquired Donbas territories, as well as defensive positions. This will be a massive undertaking which will easily employ hundreds of thousands of men - for years.
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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Uneducated. Russian toy u are.

NATO lost the war eh? Love the cheerleading for Russia.

It's not about cheerleading, it's about getting through the wartime propaganda and gaslighting, which your last several posts are loaded with, so much so that I almost don't know where to start...

Let's be perfectly clear about this war, Russia is winning big, Ukraine is getting decimated, already losing about 2 million soldiers KIA or wounded. Ukraine is having to round up men on the street with press gangs, while Russia hasn't had to mobilize since the Fall of '22, because their losses have been a small fraction of Ukraine's, more than covered with volunteers signing up.

The stuff about Russia having lost 11,000 armored vehicles posted by Diablo above comes from sources like Oryx and the Ukrainian government, in other words, pure propaganda. People gobble up every bit of creative NATO propaganda, like the piece about North Korean soldiers being killed in Kursk and Russians having to burn off the faces of dead Norks to hide their presence, this is Ghost of Kiev-level war yarn. If that were true, why wouldn't Russians simply evacuate dead Koreans instead...

NATO and Ukraine are out of air defense assets, whatever NATO has left they have been sending to Israel so that they can conduct their genocide unmolested. Russia is going to take the remaining strongholds pf Pokrovsk in the Donbas this winter. After that the lone remaining highly defended hubs are Slovyansk-Kramatorsk which will probably fall later next year.

Sooner or later this reality is going to sink in. The fact is, Ukraine never had a chance to defeat Russia militarily to start wit, but its NATO backers couldn't give a crap about that country and used it as a pawn against Russia, a pure great power geopolitical play while grandstanding as defenders of human rights and "rules based world order".
It is fantastic that you - of all people - are complaining about the reliability of third party claims. You post twitter links and other "sources" that support your fringe views, even if from biased or questionable (or completely discredited) sources. Most of the crap you post is from totally unrecognizable and unreliable sourcing.

Similarly, you forfeit the right to assert gas lighting when you post frivolous genocide claims. You're on the side of Putin and Hamas . . . which is really all anyone needs to know.



Weren't you the guy who argued last year that Israel really wasn't carpet-bombig Gaza, and was definitely not ethnic cleansing the Palestinians??

Conflating the Gaza genocide, which is corroborated by the ICJ, the Lancet and many other independent sources, with support for Hamas is your other standard cheap trick, par for the course for hardcore zionists.

If you want to counter any assertion I have made in this thread about Ukraine, feel free to do so.

Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza. They are, for the most part, using precision guided weapons which is literally the opposite of carpet bombing. Full stop. That is a fact.



"Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza!"





You might want to check those goggles of yours. Most of the stuff you have said about the ongoing genocide is out there, but this is beyond the pale,











As predicted, you responded with tweets from people with unknown or no credentials. Eastern Oregon Bear predicted this and you did it anyway. LMAO.

This is a war where Hamas hides behind civilian targets and refuses to release hostages, including a baby and other children. Hamas could end the war today - but they chose not to. Hamas is the only party committing war crimes as a matter of strategy and policy. It is Hamas stated policy to maximize the suffering of Palestinians, yet you blame Israel.

It is notable you want the war in Ukraine to end but won't demand that Hamas do the one thing that would end the Gaza war - release the hostages. Hamas is sacrificing innocents - like you accuse NATO of doing in Ukraine - yet you have nothing bad to say about Hamas. And nothing bad to say about actual genocide in places like Syria.
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Why is this happening now?

dimitrig
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movielover said:

Why is this happening now?




I thought climate change is a hoax.

Russia doesn't think so.
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dimitrig said:

movielover said:

Why is this happening now?




I thought climate change is a hoax.

Russia doesn't think so.


Russia has been building a fleet of nuclear-powered icebreakers, the Arktika Class Nuclear Icebreaker, without which shipping navigation on that route would be impossible half the year.



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I'm not sure this belongs in this thread but it seems the likeliest place for it. An Azerbaijan Airlines plane on a flight from Baku, Azerbaijan to Grozny in Russia crashed yesterday in Kazakhstan after being shot down by a missile. Early reports said it had a bird strike, but the photographic evidence is pretty compelling that it was hit by shrapnel from an explosion. The pilots apparently did an amazing job to keep the plane aloft while they tried to divert across the Caspian Sea to an airport in Kazakhstan despite losing all hydraulics on the plane. They crashed but managed to save 29 people out of 67 which seems miraculous. I'm not sure who fired off the missile. My first thought was Ukraine or Russia, but I'm thinking the Chechens are a strong possibility as Grozny is in the Chechen Republic area of Russia. This video is by my go to guy for aviation news and he shows the evidence for shrapnel hitting the plane very clearly.


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Four sources say Azerbaijan Airlines flight was downed by Russian air defences


https://www.yahoo.com/news/azerbaijan-airlines-flight-downed-russian-134937351.html

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Cal88
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As there were several survivors of this crash, we should soon find out what went down.
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You missed the gist of my post. Russia is on a collision course with history. We have seen this before: an outsized distribution of funds to the wartime economy. That cannot last. it won't last. It didn't in 1991. You have no sense of history or economic policy. I don't rely on the BBC. lol

I wrote quite clearly that the Russian economy is humming. But it won't last. I know of no predictive index or magazine that was calling on Russia's economy to collapse 1, 2,3 or 5 years ago. What the predictions are saying is that this wartime economy cannot last as the high interest rates will and are stifling growth in the civil sector. That is already happening.

The rest of your post is just cheerleading. You 88, are clearly a Russian/Putin apologist who, under the guise of "I just want peace" and "Donald knows best", are advocating a Russian position. You're clearly bent. I hope you're getting paid.

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I will gladly await the brave North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia with the awesome economy they have. LMAO

"the newly acquire Donbas region"

Movielover = Russian influencer
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What is the predictive model of a country $36 Trillion in debt, adding over $2T a year, $1T a year in interest payments, $900B a year in military spending (yet only the #2 military power), cities abandoned, crime unrelenting, 40-50 Million illegal immigrants, dangerous drugs plentiful, declining birth and marriage rates, and 20% of young men addicted to electronics?

Only 30% of citizens say we're on the right track. Then they forced an untested non-vaccine vaccine on hundreds of Millions of Americans, and our non-Covid death rates have spiked including heart issues and turbo cancers.

Obama's Third Term was worse than his first two.
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Hating America again? Lovely. False equivalence. Again and again. Movie, I just want to let you know that we don't live in Gotham City. Now if you're experience in California isn't what you thought or want - 4 words - GTFO. If you don't like living in the US, 4 words - GTFO. Want to walk in downtown Oakland or Market St in the City at midnight with your doggie? May I suggest that you might want to find a different city. Elon is right. You are the contemptable fool.

You're singularly equating crime, low birth rates, marriage rates and porn addiction to the US. That is a worldwide phenomenon. Are you that daft? The birthrate has been declining in the US since the Great Depression. Marriage? That's been on the decline since 1900.

Movie wishes the trad wife subculture would take root across America. Long live gender roles!! lmao
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Edited, the photo you posted means absolute d**k. Congrats on your participation trophy.
bear2034
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philly1121 said:

Hating America again?

You sound like the woke right on X right now, lol.
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philly1121 said:

Edited, the photo you posted means absolute d**k. Congrats on your participation trophy.


Is that you Biden? Didn't know you could still read and type.
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bear2034 said:

philly1121 said:

Hating America again?

You sound like the woke right on X right now, lol.
Maybe, but at least I don't repost. Please give credit to Ian, Jack or Charlie. Be better.
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I can still read. Read this: n-o w-r-o-n-g-d-o-i-n-g lol
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Fresh in from the Life Imitating Art Department:

Savage tactics have swung the Ukraine war in Russia's favor


https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-convict-soldiers-troops-ukraine-war-2024-12



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bearister said:

Fresh in from the Life Imitating Art Department:

Savage tactics have swung the Ukraine war in Russia's favor


https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-convict-soldiers-troops-ukraine-war-2024-12

Pure projection from Kofman, along the lines of the stuff U2S used to post on this thread before he bailed.

Quote:

Russia has taken this to a new level out of deep need. After losing an estimated 700,000 troops to death, injury, or desertion in the nearly three years since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia should be resorting to mass conscription to replace its losses.

Mediazona's official Russian KIA number for the entire war to date is 84K, including around 20K convicts.


Quote:

"The attrition ratio was favorable to Ukraine, at an average rate of one to four in terms of those killed or seriously wounded, with the bulk of Russian casualties coming from convict-staffed formations employed by Wagner," Kofman wrote.

The real attrition rate is at least 6 to 1 in favor of Russia. They have had a 10 to 1 advantage in artillery volume, and have had air superiority, in addition to a whole range of mass-produced drone and missile stand-off systems that can hunt down artillery and armored vehicles over 50km from the frontlines.

One data point that confirms this is EU head Ursula admitting back in November of 22 that Ukraine had over 100,000 soldiers killed in a statement that was published online then quickly edited out (see panels below). This data point jibes with the many estimates from unbiased sources that place Ukrainian KIAs at 600,000+, compared with Mediazona's 84K KIA estimate on the Russian side.



If Russia had the kind of losses that Kofman is claiming, they would be the side that would resort on mass conscription. What we have instead is Ukraine now lowering conscription age to 18 and countless videos of men being press-ganged and abducted on city streets across Ukraine. Russia instead has relied exclusively on volunteers since '22.

Kofman also claimed that Ukraine's Summer offensive would work, it was a complete disaster for Ukraine as they have failed to breach even the first Russian line of defense, using precisely the human wave attack mode that Kofman is erroneously ascribing to the Russian side. The Kursk offensive as well turned out to be a costly PR stunt.

Putin has been leading this war with the objective to minimize Russian casualties, with his troops moving slowly into Ukrainian-held territory relying on thier 10 to 1 advantage in artillery and air superiority using guided glide bombs.
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You can't really cite Russia's failure to use of conscription as proof they haven't had substantial losses when they are bringing in fighters from North Korea, the middle east and Africa.
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