The Official Russian Invasion of Ukraine Thread

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movielover
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He won't care. He'll be unhappy for four years.
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Cal88
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Excellent new rundown of the Ukrainian military situation and policy implications from Austrian colonel Markus Reisner. The Austrians, along with the Swiss, have traditionally managed to stay neutral/objective though they are part of the West.

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Cal88
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Compelling statement from Sachs:
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KYIV, Ukraine (AP) President Donald Trump's envoy to Ukraine and Russia said on Friday that he had held "extensive and positive discussions" with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy about the three-year war with Russia and praised the Ukrainian leader as an "embattled and courageous leader of a nation at war."

Retired U.S. Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg who traveled to Kyiv on Wednesday and whose planned news conference with Zelenskyy on Thursday was changed at the last minute to a simple photo opportunity struck a positive tone after what he said on the social platform X was "a long and intense day" of talks with Ukraine's senior leadership.

His comments marked a departure from recent rebukes of Zelenskyy by Trump and other senior U.S. officials that appeared to indicate an abrupt deterioration of relations. Trump called Zelenskyy "a dictator without elections" and warned him that he'd " better move fast " to negotiate an end to the war or risk not having a nation to lead.

SHOCKER!
movielover
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Either Sullivan is:

1. He's an imbecile
2. Paid off
3. Both
Zippergate
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4. Trying to stay alive. If he doesn't flee, Azov will take him out the moment he signs a peace treaty.
movielover
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Opps. I clarified my statement, referring to the Sullivan and Sachs interview.
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:




KYIV, Ukraine (AP) President Donald Trump's envoy to Ukraine and Russia said on Friday that he had held "extensive and positive discussions" with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy about the three-year war with Russia and praised the Ukrainian leader as an "embattled and courageous leader of a nation at war."

Retired U.S. Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg who traveled to Kyiv on Wednesday and whose planned news conference with Zelenskyy on Thursday was changed at the last minute to a simple photo opportunity struck a positive tone after what he said on the social platform X was "a long and intense day" of talks with Ukraine's senior leadership.

His comments marked a departure from recent rebukes of Zelenskyy by Trump and other senior U.S. officials that appeared to indicate an abrupt deterioration of relations. Trump called Zelenskyy "a dictator without elections" and warned him that he'd " better move fast " to negotiate an end to the war or risk not having a nation to lead.

SHOCKER!


Kellogg did not take part of the negotiations with the Russians, his role has been basically hand holding parties offended and disturbed by Trump's new policies, kind of the "good cop" in Trump's diplomatic game. He's not in the inner policy loop.



bear2034
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bearister said:

For me it's this simple: What entries in Trump's or Putin's track record would give you the confidence to trust either of them?
movielover
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President Trump:

1. Zero new wars in Term 1.0
2. After brash talk, peace negotiations w North Korea, and no new NK missile tests
3. Five Mideast peace deals (Abraham Accords) which should have given him the Nobel Peace Prize
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Cal88
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Zelensky comes across as reckless, because US intel has all the receipts of his money laundering and can get him extradited and jailed, either by the next Ukrainian government or in the US. He is however less fearful of this that of being offed by the hardcore nationalists for trying to negotiate a peace treaty that will have to be favorable to the Russians as they are in the drivers seat.
movielover
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Azov types still strong?

Is Ukraine really hanging tough, or has Russia been pulling punches?

Are those our drones hitting power stations?
movielover
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Biden/ Blinken / Sullivan bend over, but President Trump salvages the situation?

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From the director of Intelligence. Unrefutable truth because libs ALWAYS believe everything the government says
Cal88
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I think Gabbard has been a pivotal figure in Trump's Ukraine policy, he is no longer fed fabricated intel on the situation there.
Haloski
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Cal88 said:

Compelling statement from Sachs:



Compelling, indeed. As are his takes on Trump's tariff policy.
Haloski
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HawaiiBear33 said:



From the director of Intelligence. Unrefutable truth because libs ALWAYS believe everything the government says


I assume this was all handled in late January?
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Cal88
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Haloski said:

Cal88 said:

Compelling statement from Sachs:


Compelling, indeed. As are his takes on Trump's tariff policy.

Well yes, he's definitely not a Trump sycophant.

Mearsheimer also critical of Trump's stance with the Ukrainian resource deal, he's also pessimistic about the chances of a settlement in Ukraine under Trump:

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Cal88 said:

I think Gabbard has been a pivotal figure in Trump's Ukraine policy, he is no longer fed fabricated intel on the situation there.

Seeing that Tulsi is on all four squares with Putin's position in the matter, that makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure Putin is going to be giving up titanium rights on his front porch to a weakling like Trump with all those dead Russian soldiers laying on top of them.
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If the Europeans weren't so useless they'd offer Putin a better deal that guaranteed an independent Ukraine. We'll just get out after the minerals are transferred
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