sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
dajo9 said:
sycasey said:
Cal88 said:
sycasey said:
movielover said:
They "invaded" bc they ignored Putin, overthrew the political leadership, inserted Victoria Nuland (aka Darth Vader) into the mix, put 12 CIA bases on Russias border, spent years planning to take Russian lands, and we're forcing NATO into Ukraine- a gard line for Russia. An existential threat.
Why does "invaded" always need to be in scare quotes for Russia, like they didn't actually do it? They did, it's okay to admit it.
We (NATO) invaded and dismantled Yugoslavia, balkanized and gerrymandered it into several new countries like Kosovo because one party mistreated the other.
Yugoslavia was already breaking apart on its own and it was probably good to prevent the genocide/apartheid conditions of the Kosovars. Also quite notably, the US and/or NATO never attempted to absorb that territory into one of its existing nations, instead helping to set up a separate independent nation.
Russia's claims against Ukraine have always been pretty heavily exaggerated or outright made-up, and they actually do want to absorb that territory for themselves. Quite different.
Putin88 routinely puts blame on America when other countries have civil wars. Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria.
"Confession of a CIA Agent:
"They gave us millions to dismember Yugoslavia"
As a senior CIA operative, Baer worked in Yugoslavia during the 1991-94 period and in the Middle East
"Do you have a message for the people of the former Yugoslavia?
I have. Forget the past, it was staged and false. They manipulated you, they got what they wanted and it is stupid that you still hate one another, you must show that you are stronger and realise who has created this ! I sincerely apologise! That's why I have for a long time disclosed the secrets of the CIA and the White House!"
"We bribed parties and politicians who enticed hate between the nations (second pictures). Our ultimate goal was to enslave you!"
https://greanvillepost.com/2015/11/29/108895/
Good job sharing a fake interview. Is this in the same file with your fake Time Magazine articles about "global cooling?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baer
Quote:
Robert Baer has never written or promoted a book with the title "The Secret of the White House", but a fabricated interview with him about promoting this book in Canada has been circulating on the web since 2012. In this fabricated interview the USA was accused of having caused the collapse of Yugoslavia.
https://seecheck.org/index.php/2023/03/24/a-fictional-interview-with-a-former-cia-agent-has-been-circulating-in-the-balkans-for-a-decade/
Google search result of "Robert Baer on Yugoslavia" returns:
AI OverviewRobert Baer, a former CIA case officer who served in the former Yugoslavia from 1991-1994, has made claims that the United States and the CIA actively worked to
dismember Yugoslavia by financing propaganda and bribing politicians to incite ethnic hatred.
Key Claims by Robert Baer
Baer's statements, primarily from interviews that have circulated online since around 20122015, outline a covert operation designed to accelerate the breakup of the nation. His claims include:
- Financial Influence: Baer stated that he and his team were given millions of dollars to bribe "non-governmental organizations, opposition parties and politicians" to encourage nationalism and the separation of the republics.
- Propaganda and Panic: A primary objective of the operation, code-named "The Truth" (Istina), was to spread misinformation and panic, specifically by fabricating stories about Serbian terrorist groups to stoke fear among other ethnic groups.
- Manipulation of Events: Baer alleged that events like the Srebrenica massacre were politically manipulated and exaggerated for media consumption to justify international intervention and blame the Serbs. The goal was to create a pretext for Western involvement.
- Economic Motives: He argued that the ultimate goal of the intervention was economic control, allowing Western companies to exploit natural resources and turn the people of the Balkans into "slaves" dependent on foreign loans.
- Corrupt Politicians: He claimed that various politicians from the former Yugoslavia, including Stipe Mesic, Franjo Tudjman, and Alija Izetbegovic, received money from the CIA.
Context and Reception
It is important to note the context of these claims:
- Fabricated Book Interview: The primary source of these specific claims about Yugoslavia is a widely circulated interview that falsely links them to the promotion of a non-existent book titled The Secret of the White House. His actual published works do not focus on this.
- Controversy and Skepticism: Baer's statements are considered highly controversial and are disputed by official accounts and other sources, which point to the complex historical, cultural, and political factors that led to the dissolution of Yugoslavia. Srebrenica, for instance, is widely recognized as a genocide by the UN and international bodies with extensive evidence.
- Career: Baer is a decorated former intelligence officer who has written several books on the CIA and Middle East policy (e.g., See No Evil), which have been well-received and even adapted into the film Syriana. His general credibility as a critic of US foreign policy lends some weight to his overall anti-establishment stance, but these particular claims about Yugoslavia remain contentious and largely unsubstantiated outside of the disputed interviews.
So the book is not real, but his statements are.
