sycasey said:Aunburdened said:sycasey said:Aunburdened said:sycasey said:Aunburdened said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:
Hey, this guy sounds a lot like that Ben-Gvir fellow from Israel. Just substitute Palestinians for Ukrainians and it's basically the same sentiment.Putin’s adviser calls on Russians to colonize Ukraine
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) September 4, 2026
“This is just depopulation, and only Russia can save this country. By the way, we already did this once, when these lands were annexed to Russia by Potemkin and Catherine — we resettled our population in Ukraine,” Anton… pic.twitter.com/oaBDs5Fyvw
But the Very Smart People here will keep insisting that Russia only cared about NATO expansion and this is not a war intended to absorb Ukraine back into Russia.
NATO's expansion was about absorbing Ukraine into the EU sphere and turning it into an enemy of Russia, knowing full well that (1) the large Russian minority in Ukraine would be collateral damage and (2) it would preempt Russia to intervene militarily. Many highly respected US policy insiders and analysts have made this rational assessment in the past 2-3 decades.
At one point Russia wanted to join NATO and was rebuffed by both Clinton and Dubya, who openly mocked that idea (see also Biden's putdown about Russia joining up with China and Iran as a result of their openings being rebuffed and of NATO's continued expansion eastwards).
As well, for a historical context, northern and eastern Ukraine had been part of Russia for centuries, while southern Ukraine was colonized and settled by Russia 3 centuries ago, in the late 1700s, after they defeated the previous colonial power that occupied and settled the region, the Ottomans. The area of southern and western Ukraine had been the borderland between the Ottoman, Austian-Hungarian and Russian empires (and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth before that).
A lot of these same arguments apply to Israel too, you just don't accept them there because you're reflexively anti-America and Israel is a US ally. When America's adversary (Russia) does colonialism and war you are quick to forgive.
Not me, I remain consistent: fighting a war and trying to ethnically cleanse a population is bad, whether it's America's friend or America's enemy that does it.
Every anti-war critic gets smeared as anti-American, par for the course, that was true with Vietnam, Iraq and nearly every other post WW2 US military campaign.
You're not anti-war if you make excuses for Russia's war in Ukraine.
You're not anti-war if you can't be intellectually honest about how NATO and the US did everything they could to provoke this war.
Why does this logic only apply to NATO and Russia but not to Gaza and Israel? If anything, Hamas did far more to provoke Israel by actually attacking on their soil. Yet you never try to use that to excuse Israel's actions in this war (nor should you). Only Russia gets this charity. Curious.
Palestine didn't have a bunch of third-party countries goading them to sacrifice their blood and property to fight a war against a country that had them completely outmatched in terms of population and arsenal. There's no "proxy war" happening in Gaza's benefit.
Sure they did. Iran, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas
I'm sorry, you must have me confused with someone who reads the CIA's favorite disinformation site when it comes to war and foreign policy.
So you don't think Iran was backing Hamas? That's your position?
Or do you not want to think about it so you're going to complain about the source again?
Israel is backed by the United States. That's the end of the discussion.
- DaddyLegend 9/6/2026
