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After conquering the Donbass, the Ukrainian army was going to invade Russian territory, with the intention of getting Russia bogged down in an expensive conflict.

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By the way, I think this is also completely insane, basically taking Putin's most paranoid fears as gospel truth. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia, come on now.

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There are also no U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine and NATO and its allies didn't blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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Didn't they catch a small team of Ukrainians who attacked Nord Stream? I mean, I guess that would technically be US allies but it doesn't look like a coordinated effort.

Also, correct that there were no bioweapons labs. There were bio-research labs, which may be what you're confused about.

All of the stuff you are claiming is pretty much you 100% swallowing the Russian government's narrative on each of these topics, by the way. And yet people complain about me sharing propaganda!

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It appears this way because the Russian government is telling the truth.

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BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA. Funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

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The existence of biolabs in Ukraine was confirmed by Rubio in a deposition with Victoria Nuland. She stated the U.S. was concerned that advancing Russian forces might try to gain control of those research materials, and that the U.S. was working with Ukrainians to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, which confirms that the research conducted there was of a sensitive nature.

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Yes, bio-research labs. Many of your favorite conspiracy theorists have twisted this into thinking that these labs were bio-weapons labs, which is not confirmed.

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If those were "normal" bio research labs, Nuland wouldn't have expressed being worried about that research "falling into the wrong hands".

Marco Rubio: Does Ukraine 🇺🇦 have chemical or biological weapons?

Victoria Nuland: Uh… Ukraine has biological research facilities which we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.pic.twitter.com/4z4EB40AMq

— Juan Hodl (@JuanGutiCA714) February 25, 2024

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So she said what I said she said and you are inferring a lot more than what was actually said. Thanks.

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She didn't, and you know it. If she was concerned with the research falling into Russian military hands, that research had military applications.

If those labs weren't bioweapons lab, Nuland would have simply answered "no" to Rubio's question about whether Ukraine had biological and chemical weapons. The reason she didn't is because she is under oath, she had to at least tell a partial truth.

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You think this because it confirms your prior assumptions. There's no actual evidence of it.

Also, even if it was true, so what? The US and Ukraine partnering on military weapons research doesn't justify starting a war.

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We've started a war on Iraq for that very pretext.

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Correct, and in Iran recently too. Both of those were bad decisions and Russia's war in Ukraine is also bad.

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The difference here is that Ukraine is right at Russia's border, had the largest standing army in Europe and is heavily armed, trained and financed by NATO whose designated enemy is Russia.

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Yes, and all of this military build-up only happened because Russia annexed Crimea and Ukraine figured they needed to arm themselves to the teeth as a way of discouraging further invasion. Can't say they were wrong about that.

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You will never acknowledge that Crimeans overwhelmingly wanted to join Russia, because they are ethnically Russian, and the Kiev govt represses its large Russian minority, and the post-Maidan govt in Kiev went as far as cutting off Crimea's water out of sheer spite, throwing it in the Black Sea.

There was a dispute between Crimea and Kyiv regarding autonomy, Sevastopol, the abolition of the office of Crimean President, NATO... Yanukovych... are you too stupid to grasp that? An overwhelming majority wanted nothing more to do with Kyiv. pic.twitter.com/L25A5mkOR5

— Matth (@Matth70301525) September 21, 2026

Remember the NBC News interview in Crimea asking people whether Crimea was Russian or Ukrainian? Zelensky and the entire Ukrainian military should watch this interview before even thinking of setting foot in Crimea.
pic.twitter.com/Xl7jijL3kC

— Gabriel (@GabeZZOZZ) April 24, 2025

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After conquering the Donbass, the Ukrainian army was going to invade Russian territory, with the intention of getting Russia bogged down in an expensive conflict.

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By the way, I think this is also completely insane, basically taking Putin's most paranoid fears as gospel truth. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia, come on now.

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There are also no U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine and NATO and its allies didn't blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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Didn't they catch a small team of Ukrainians who attacked Nord Stream? I mean, I guess that would technically be US allies but it doesn't look like a coordinated effort.

Also, correct that there were no bioweapons labs. There were bio-research labs, which may be what you're confused about.

All of the stuff you are claiming is pretty much you 100% swallowing the Russian government's narrative on each of these topics, by the way. And yet people complain about me sharing propaganda!

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It appears this way because the Russian government is telling the truth.

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BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA. Funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

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The existence of biolabs in Ukraine was confirmed by Rubio in a deposition with Victoria Nuland. She stated the U.S. was concerned that advancing Russian forces might try to gain control of those research materials, and that the U.S. was working with Ukrainians to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, which confirms that the research conducted there was of a sensitive nature.

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Yes, bio-research labs. Many of your favorite conspiracy theorists have twisted this into thinking that these labs were bio-weapons labs, which is not confirmed.

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If those were "normal" bio research labs, Nuland wouldn't have expressed being worried about that research "falling into the wrong hands".

Marco Rubio: Does Ukraine 🇺🇦 have chemical or biological weapons?

Victoria Nuland: Uh… Ukraine has biological research facilities which we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.pic.twitter.com/4z4EB40AMq

— Juan Hodl (@JuanGutiCA714) February 25, 2024

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So she said what I said she said and you are inferring a lot more than what was actually said. Thanks.

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She didn't, and you know it. If she was concerned with the research falling into Russian military hands, that research had military applications.

If those labs weren't bioweapons lab, Nuland would have simply answered "no" to Rubio's question about whether Ukraine had biological and chemical weapons. The reason she didn't is because she is under oath, she had to at least tell a partial truth.

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You think this because it confirms your prior assumptions. There's no actual evidence of it.

Also, even if it was true, so what? The US and Ukraine partnering on military weapons research doesn't justify starting a war.

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We've started a war on Iraq for that very pretext.

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Correct, and in Iran recently too. Both of those were bad decisions and Russia's war in Ukraine is also bad.

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The difference here is that Ukraine is right at Russia's border, had the largest standing army in Europe and is heavily armed, trained and financed by NATO whose designated enemy is Russia.

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Yes, and all of this military build-up only happened because Russia annexed Crimea and Ukraine figured they needed to arm themselves to the teeth as a way of discouraging further invasion. Can't say they were wrong about that.

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You will never acknowledge that Crimeans overwhelmingly wanted to join Russia, because they are ethnically Russian, and the Kiev govt represses its large Russian minority, and the post-Maidan govt in Kiev went as far as cutting off Crimea's water out of sheer spite, throwing it in the Black Sea.

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I will not acknowledge it because it's irrelevant. You don't get to invade other places and start wars because of "ethnic minorities." That is just a convenient pretext for the territorial conquest that Putin really wants. You should stop laundering it.

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After conquering the Donbass, the Ukrainian army was going to invade Russian territory, with the intention of getting Russia bogged down in an expensive conflict.

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By the way, I think this is also completely insane, basically taking Putin's most paranoid fears as gospel truth. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia, come on now.

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There are also no U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine and NATO and its allies didn't blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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Didn't they catch a small team of Ukrainians who attacked Nord Stream? I mean, I guess that would technically be US allies but it doesn't look like a coordinated effort.

Also, correct that there were no bioweapons labs. There were bio-research labs, which may be what you're confused about.

All of the stuff you are claiming is pretty much you 100% swallowing the Russian government's narrative on each of these topics, by the way. And yet people complain about me sharing propaganda!

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It appears this way because the Russian government is telling the truth.

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BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA. Funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

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The existence of biolabs in Ukraine was confirmed by Rubio in a deposition with Victoria Nuland. She stated the U.S. was concerned that advancing Russian forces might try to gain control of those research materials, and that the U.S. was working with Ukrainians to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, which confirms that the research conducted there was of a sensitive nature.

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Yes, bio-research labs. Many of your favorite conspiracy theorists have twisted this into thinking that these labs were bio-weapons labs, which is not confirmed.

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If those were "normal" bio research labs, Nuland wouldn't have expressed being worried about that research "falling into the wrong hands".

Marco Rubio: Does Ukraine 🇺🇦 have chemical or biological weapons?

Victoria Nuland: Uh… Ukraine has biological research facilities which we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.pic.twitter.com/4z4EB40AMq

— Juan Hodl (@JuanGutiCA714) February 25, 2024

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So she said what I said she said and you are inferring a lot more than what was actually said. Thanks.

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She didn't, and you know it. If she was concerned with the research falling into Russian military hands, that research had military applications.

If those labs weren't bioweapons lab, Nuland would have simply answered "no" to Rubio's question about whether Ukraine had biological and chemical weapons. The reason she didn't is because she is under oath, she had to at least tell a partial truth.

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You think this because it confirms your prior assumptions. There's no actual evidence of it.

Also, even if it was true, so what? The US and Ukraine partnering on military weapons research doesn't justify starting a war.

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We've started a war on Iraq for that very pretext.

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Correct, and in Iran recently too. Both of those were bad decisions and Russia's war in Ukraine is also bad.

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The difference here is that Ukraine is right at Russia's border, had the largest standing army in Europe and is heavily armed, trained and financed by NATO whose designated enemy is Russia.

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Yes, and all of this military build-up only happened because Russia annexed Crimea and Ukraine figured they needed to arm themselves to the teeth as a way of discouraging further invasion. Can't say they were wrong about that.

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You will never acknowledge that Crimeans overwhelmingly wanted to join Russia, because they are ethnically Russian, and the Kiev govt represses its large Russian minority, and the post-Maidan govt in Kiev went as far as cutting off Crimea's water out of sheer spite, throwing it in the Black Sea.

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I will not acknowledge it because it's irrelevant. You don't get to invade other places and start wars because of "ethnic minorities." That is just a convenient pretext for the territorial conquest that Putin really wants. You should stop laundering it.

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You're so fixated on Putin that you are ignoring that 80% of Crimeans don't want anything to do with the Zelensky/Kiev S1itshow.

Crimea was annexed peacefully, the war started shortly afterwards as the Kiev regime bombed the rebellion in eastern Ukraine. Russia intervened 8 years later in 22 just as the Donbas rebels were about to be crushed by Kiev's NATO army.

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After conquering the Donbass, the Ukrainian army was going to invade Russian territory, with the intention of getting Russia bogged down in an expensive conflict.

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By the way, I think this is also completely insane, basically taking Putin's most paranoid fears as gospel truth. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia, come on now.

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There are also no U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine and NATO and its allies didn't blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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Didn't they catch a small team of Ukrainians who attacked Nord Stream? I mean, I guess that would technically be US allies but it doesn't look like a coordinated effort.

Also, correct that there were no bioweapons labs. There were bio-research labs, which may be what you're confused about.

All of the stuff you are claiming is pretty much you 100% swallowing the Russian government's narrative on each of these topics, by the way. And yet people complain about me sharing propaganda!

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It appears this way because the Russian government is telling the truth.

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BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA. Funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

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The existence of biolabs in Ukraine was confirmed by Rubio in a deposition with Victoria Nuland. She stated the U.S. was concerned that advancing Russian forces might try to gain control of those research materials, and that the U.S. was working with Ukrainians to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, which confirms that the research conducted there was of a sensitive nature.

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Yes, bio-research labs. Many of your favorite conspiracy theorists have twisted this into thinking that these labs were bio-weapons labs, which is not confirmed.

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Yes, I'm sure that the CIA was ONLY interested in conducting pure research to serve all mankind when they set up those labs. Unless you can provide conclusive proof that they did NOT do bioweapons research, I have to assume that their overall purpose was to facilitate the strategic defeat of Russia. That was the goal of the entire operation.

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After conquering the Donbass, the Ukrainian army was going to invade Russian territory, with the intention of getting Russia bogged down in an expensive conflict.

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By the way, I think this is also completely insane, basically taking Putin's most paranoid fears as gospel truth. Ukraine was not going to invade Russia, come on now.

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There are also no U.S. funded bioweapons labs in Ukraine and NATO and its allies didn't blow up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

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Didn't they catch a small team of Ukrainians who attacked Nord Stream? I mean, I guess that would technically be US allies but it doesn't look like a coordinated effort.

Also, correct that there were no bioweapons labs. There were bio-research labs, which may be what you're confused about.

All of the stuff you are claiming is pretty much you 100% swallowing the Russian government's narrative on each of these topics, by the way. And yet people complain about me sharing propaganda!

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It appears this way because the Russian government is telling the truth.

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BWAAA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAA. Funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

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The existence of biolabs in Ukraine was confirmed by Rubio in a deposition with Victoria Nuland. She stated the U.S. was concerned that advancing Russian forces might try to gain control of those research materials, and that the U.S. was working with Ukrainians to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, which confirms that the research conducted there was of a sensitive nature.

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Yes, bio-research labs. Many of your favorite conspiracy theorists have twisted this into thinking that these labs were bio-weapons labs, which is not confirmed.

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Yes, I'm sure that the CIA was ONLY interested in conducting pure research to serve all mankind when they set up those labs. Unless you can provide conclusive proof that they did NOT do bioweapons research, I have to assume that their overall purpose was to facilitate the strategic defeat of Russia. That was the goal of the entire operation.

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You just asked me to prove a negative in order to make you certain that your prior assumption is wrong. There is no way I can do this. You will believe what you want, regardless of evidence.

Ukraine planning to conscript women as the number of available men has been dwindling.

🇺🇦🇪🇺 Ukraine is actively recruiting women into the military (left pic).
Why not to send Kaja Collapse and other EU leaders & politicians to front. If the hate Russia & love Nazi Ukraine so much, let them fight. And we all would live peacefully & friendly without them 🤝 pic.twitter.com/tl2cbGdIEq

— Roberto (@UniqueMongolia) September 21, 2026

UKRAINE ORDERS 150,000 WINTER JACKETS FOR WOMEN — MOBILIZATION SIGNAL

Ukraine's Defense Procurement Agency has placed a sudden order for 150,000 women's winter jackets for the regular army — not for rear staff or volunteers.

📊 Key points:
• The order is a clear mobilization… pic.twitter.com/tj71YfgyaK

— Military Summary (@MilitarySummary) September 9, 2026

I wonder if we will start to see women being kidnapped off Ukrainians streets by the conscription goon squads soon, not sure if that is the case here as this is the first video I've seen of that instance:

It appears that Ukraine has begun forcibly conscripting women for the war pic.twitter.com/vQPzJsSI03

— HatsOff (@HatsOffff) September 22, 2026

Look for armed Ukrainian press gangs and shootouts next year -

Ukrainian man points handgun & threatens to shoot press gang in Novovolynsk in my native Volyn Region in Western Ukraine and saves another man from forced mobilization. pic.twitter.com/IA3BC40o8D

— Ivan Katchanovski (@I_Katchanovski) September 22, 2026

Truer words have never been written

If they’re looking for an icebreaker, I’d start off by sharing how much they’ve each gotten from the CIA: https://t.co/qXOoSG7Af3

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) September 23, 2026

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Truer words have never been written

If they’re looking for an icebreaker, I’d start off by sharing how much they’ve each gotten from the CIA: https://t.co/qXOoSG7Af3

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) September 23, 2026

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Aaron Mate is a clown.

The Grayzone’s HUMILIATING Ukraine war predictions:

2022: Hosting and laughing with Russia’s Deputy Ambassador to the UN at the idea that Russia would invade Ukraine:
“These alleged plans to invade come as a total surprise to us [Russia].”

2023: Putin will take Odesa by 2024… pic.twitter.com/AdjIDAIUpu

— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) September 18, 2026

Website shows Ukraine's forced conscription of their own citizens. What a democracy!

Just found out about the existence of the website https://t.co/lK7IpgQaqN, which has archived nearly 10,000 clips of Ukrainian civilians documenting the shocking reality of forced conscription in Ukraine. This should dispel any lingering doubts anyone may have about the nightmare…

— Thomas Fazi (@battleforeurope) September 23, 2026

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Busification is bad. It's not an argument for giving the country over to Russia, because if you think forced conscription is bad in Ukraine . . .

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You only think it must be worse in Russia because almost all your positions on this war are based on provincial stereotypes. There is nothing n Russia like the mass human safaris on the streets of Ukraine. There are 269 million active cellphone connections in Russia, yet no mountain of footage of goon squads capturing fresh meat for the front like you have in Ukraine.

And the reason there is so much panic with those poor Ukrainian being shanghaied and those around them is that they know that it's a one way ticket, they've seen their neighbors disappear.

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Truer words have never been written

If they’re looking for an icebreaker, I’d start off by sharing how much they’ve each gotten from the CIA: https://t.co/qXOoSG7Af3

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) September 23, 2026

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Aaron Mate is a clown.

The Grayzone’s HUMILIATING Ukraine war predictions:

2022: Hosting and laughing with Russia’s Deputy Ambassador to the UN at the idea that Russia would invade Ukraine:
“These alleged plans to invade come as a total surprise to us [Russia].”

2023: Putin will take Odesa by 2024… pic.twitter.com/AdjIDAIUpu

— Nathan Livingstone (MilkBarTV) (@TheMilkBarTV) September 18, 2026

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Aaron Mate is a clown for not getting the timing of this war right?

The real clowns are the pundits who still believe that there is a military solution for Ukraine in this war, that Ukrainian losses to date are below 1.5 million, that Ukraine is not the most corrupt country in Europe or that its regime gives a crap about their people.

Ukraine today is the oldest country in human history, with less than 20M left over, down from 50M in 1990, and its army is the oldest army in human history. The war is going as Mearsheimer predicted back in 2014, Ukraine is getting wrecked, and Russia will win a pyrrhic victory.

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Busification is bad. It's not an argument for giving the country over to Russia, because if you think forced conscription is bad in Ukraine . . .

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You only think it must be worse in Russia because almost all your positions on this war are based on provincial stereotypes. There is nothing n Russia like the mass human safaris on the streets of Ukraine. There are 269 million active cellphone connections in Russia, yet no mountain of footage of goon squads capturing fresh meat for the front like you have in Ukraine.

And the reason there is so much panic with those poor Ukrainian being shanghaied and those around them is that they know that it's a one way ticket, they've seen their neighbors disappear.

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So do you think it would be fine if Russia just took over Ukraine again?

We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Isn't this normal stuff in war? The city has been occupied by Russia since 2022 and it looks like it is a lot of elderly are there. Russia is supposed to take these people deeper in their territory and care for them, right? Alternatively, they are allowed to leave, but because it is a battlefield the area is littered with mines.

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

🇺🇦🇷🇺Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in 2014, speaking about the Russian population of Donbas which the Ukrainian army had begun bombing:

“Our children will go to schools and kindergartens, their children will sit in basement bomb shelters."

This didn’t start in 2022 https://t.co/p1y41P0Prd pic.twitter.com/hDXZBBWejp

— Afshin Rattansi (@afshinrattansi) July 23, 2026

When the PRESIDENT of post-Maidan coup Ukraine boasts about Donbas children growing up cowering in basements, do you not believe him??

In every situation with civilians being trapped, it is the Ukrainians that prevent civilians from leaving, going back to Mariupol, their presence providing them with a human shield and complicates Russian advances.

One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Isn't this normal stuff in war? The city has been occupied by Russia since 2022 and it looks like it is a lot of elderly are there. Russia is supposed to take these people deeper in their territory and care for them, right? Alternatively, they are allowed to leave, but because it is a battlefield the area is littered with mines.

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You can argue that, but it's not what these same guys argue about Gaza.

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate. The Russian government has been paying pensions and financing services whose funding was cut off by Kyiv in the 2010s. Tens of thousands of Donbas locals fought off the Kyiv government, who shelled Donbas cities like Donetsk killing thousands of civilians there, going as far as dropping butterfly antipersonnel mines over the city.

I'll update this article I wrote last week (delayed publishing because of Ukraine's bombing of central Donetsk & the hotel I was in, slaughtering 6 people).

Ukraine has fired still more missiles w butterfly mines onto Donetsk districts, more people have feet/legs blown off. pic.twitter.com/cNlJjXGNMv

— Eva Karene Bartlett (@EvaKBartlett) August 8, 2022

As to the other source, do you know who Prigozhyn was?

Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

Cal88 said:

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate.

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I'm pretty sure no one in California invaded Oregon and destroyed their cities, then tried to move in atop the rubble.

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

Cal88 said:

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate.

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I'm pretty sure no one in California invaded Oregon and destroyed their cities, then tried to move in atop the rubble.

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Kyiv bombed the Donbas for over a decade, until they were pushed back by the Russians.

CNN in 2014:

"No matter what we say, they will always look to apportion the blame in Russia, but this is not right: we did not unleash this war, I repeat, in 2014 the Kyiv regime unleashed war in the Donbas," Putin said.

Even CNN agreed in 2014 .. pic.twitter.com/tbsKTWykbk

— Paul Allen (@Orb_Royberson) September 23, 2026

This is the part of history that you are completely ignoring here, despite my repeated postings of Ukrainian president Poroshenko himself boasting about bombing the Donbas children into submission.

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Isn't this normal stuff in war? The city has been occupied by Russia since 2022 and it looks like it is a lot of elderly are there. Russia is supposed to take these people deeper in their territory and care for them, right? Alternatively, they are allowed to leave, but because it is a battlefield the area is littered with mines.

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You can argue that, but it's not what these same guys argue about Gaza.

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Shame the US and Europe don't arm Gaza the way they arm Ukraine

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So do you think they should arm both or neither?

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

Cal88 said:

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate.

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I'm pretty sure no one in California invaded Oregon and destroyed their cities, then tried to move in atop the rubble.

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Kyiv bombed the Donbas for over a decade, until they were pushed back by the Russians.

CNN in 2014:

"No matter what we say, they will always look to apportion the blame in Russia, but this is not right: we did not unleash this war, I repeat, in 2014 the Kyiv regime unleashed war in the Donbas," Putin said.

Even CNN agreed in 2014 .. pic.twitter.com/tbsKTWykbk

— Paul Allen (@Orb_Royberson) September 23, 2026

This is the part of history that you are completely ignoring here, despite my repeated postings of Ukrainian president Poroshenko himself boasting about bombing the Donbas children into submission.

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I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that the violence there was largely Russia's fault.

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It's largely Russia's fault that Ukraine had to bomb the Donbas? Why was Kyiv bombing the Donbas in the first place?

Perhaps they could have abided by the Minsk Agreements instead, or the Istanbul Agreement?

Aunburdened said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Isn't this normal stuff in war? The city has been occupied by Russia since 2022 and it looks like it is a lot of elderly are there. Russia is supposed to take these people deeper in their territory and care for them, right? Alternatively, they are allowed to leave, but because it is a battlefield the area is littered with mines.

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You can argue that, but it's not what these same guys argue about Gaza.

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Shame the US and Europe don't arm Gaza the way they arm Ukraine

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So do you think they should arm both or neither?

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I don't think the US should arm Israel or Ukraine

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So you think it's fine if Russia takes whatever it wants of Ukraine.

Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

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He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

Cal88 said:

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

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Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate.

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I'm pretty sure no one in California invaded Oregon and destroyed their cities, then tried to move in atop the rubble.

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Kyiv bombed the Donbas for over a decade, until they were pushed back by the Russians.

CNN in 2014:

"No matter what we say, they will always look to apportion the blame in Russia, but this is not right: we did not unleash this war, I repeat, in 2014 the Kyiv regime unleashed war in the Donbas," Putin said.

Even CNN agreed in 2014 .. pic.twitter.com/tbsKTWykbk

— Paul Allen (@Orb_Royberson) September 23, 2026

This is the part of history that you are completely ignoring here, despite my repeated postings of Ukrainian president Poroshenko himself boasting about bombing the Donbas children into submission.

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I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that the violence there was largely Russia's fault.

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It's largely Russia's fault that Ukraine had to bomb the Donbas? Why was Kyiv bombing the Donbas in the first place?

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Because there had been a civil war started and largely fomented by Russia in that area, thanks to Russian-backed militias rolling in and starting s**t. This was also after Russia took Crimea because Ukraine threw out their preferred leader and they didn't like it. The lion's share of aggression has been on Russia's side from the start.

sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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sycasey said:

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Aunburdened said:

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sycasey said:

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oski003 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Isn't this normal stuff in war? The city has been occupied by Russia since 2022 and it looks like it is a lot of elderly are there. Russia is supposed to take these people deeper in their territory and care for them, right? Alternatively, they are allowed to leave, but because it is a battlefield the area is littered with mines.

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You can argue that, but it's not what these same guys argue about Gaza.

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Shame the US and Europe don't arm Gaza the way they arm Ukraine

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So do you think they should arm both or neither?

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I don't think the US should arm Israel or Ukraine

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So you think it's fine if Russia takes whatever it wants of Ukraine.

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The United States isn't in Europe. I don't care what happens to Ukraine. Not our job to defend every Nazi-occupied territory that shares a border with Russia.

Ukraine had an opportunity to negotiate a settlement and avoid killing off half its population. It got bad advice from NATO.

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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We must stop the Russian genocide in Ukraine.

Russian forces are starving out the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky in the Kherson region.

Russian forces are blockading the temporarily occupied city of Oleshky on the left bank of the Kherson region, causing a humanitarian catastrophe and leaving the civilian population… pic.twitter.com/UM8EbVeyCB

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) September 16, 2026

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Where was this German warmonger when the Kiev government was bombing the Donbas into submission and forcing kids like her to grow up cowering in their basement?

---

He was probably noticing that it was actually Russian-backed mercenaries who were creating all of that trouble.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-24/wagner-boss-says-moscows-war-in-ukraine-based-on-lies/102519130

I hate it when my trolls use the "genocide in the donbass" line. It means I have to post this video of Prigozhin saying it's rubbish. https://t.co/a3XiiCc2q2 pic.twitter.com/ZkxrubkzYu

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) September 20, 2026

Cal88 said:

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One fundamental aspect that continues to escape you here is that the people in and around the frontline support Russia. They are mostly ethnic Russians, and Russian speakers who are/were in a country that not only bans their language and suppresses their culture, but is also run by the most corrupt government in Europe.

---

Ah yes! The Russians will be "greeted as liberators!" Where have I heard that one before?

A Russian woman who relocated from Kemerovo to temporarily occupied Donetsk publicly vented her frustration online, revealing that local residents openly despise Russian settlers and don’t really see themselves as a part of Russia, despite what Russian propaganda is saying. pic.twitter.com/f1dQ0FIkaH

— Gianl1974 (@Gianl1974) September 20, 2026

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Those types of annoyances are similar to the kind of response you might get driving in Oregon or TX with a CA plate.

---

I'm pretty sure no one in California invaded Oregon and destroyed their cities, then tried to move in atop the rubble.

---

Kyiv bombed the Donbas for over a decade, until they were pushed back by the Russians.

CNN in 2014:

"No matter what we say, they will always look to apportion the blame in Russia, but this is not right: we did not unleash this war, I repeat, in 2014 the Kyiv regime unleashed war in the Donbas," Putin said.

Even CNN agreed in 2014 .. pic.twitter.com/tbsKTWykbk

— Paul Allen (@Orb_Royberson) September 23, 2026

This is the part of history that you are completely ignoring here, despite my repeated postings of Ukrainian president Poroshenko himself boasting about bombing the Donbas children into submission.

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I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that the violence there was largely Russia's fault.

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It's largely Russia's fault that Ukraine had to bomb the Donbas? Why was Kyiv bombing the Donbas in the first place?

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Because there had been a civil war started and largely fomented by Russia in that area, thanks to Russian-backed militias rolling in and starting s**t. This was also after Russia took Crimea because Ukraine threw out their preferred leader and they didn't like it. The lion's share of aggression has been on Russia's side from the start.

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The civil war started because the NATO-backed Maidan color revolution and coup put in place a government that was openly hostile to the large Russian minority in Ukraine. Had the post-Maidan government in place not had an ultranationalist western Ukrainian dogma and policies that marginalized and antagonized their minorities, the rebellions in southern and eastern Ukraine would never have occurred. You are still completely ignoring the cultural and historic aspects of that country.

The rebellion in the Donbas was started in 2014 by local soldiers who switched side, local LEOs and militia volunteers including lots of local blue collars (mining and heavy industry), they were able to hold off Kiev's army for 7 years on their own and these local militias were very resentful towards Russia for the lack of military support they have received throughout this civil war.