Big government conservative republicans need to stop criminalizing the dangerous act of reproduction.
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2023/12/warren-woman-receives-national-attention/
concordtom said:
When I was in college, I got into a Christian phase trying to be a better person. A young guy was trying to counsel and mentor me. He was maybe 24? He was married and he told me that his wife miscarried into the toilet. I asked what it looked like and what they did, being the curious fellow I am. He teared up as he was telling me this. It was a quite intimate story. I wanted to know details, like, if one could see something that resembled a body or was it more like a chicken egg or… heck, I was a 20 year old idiot, pre-internet research capability. Mind you, I didn't ask specifics.
Point is, he said, "I dunno, I didn't poke around."
They just flushed whatever it was down, and cried. That was their instinctive response.
I think she had experienced some cramping earlier that day before it was naturally expelled. And it was early on, definitely not yet showing.
So, yes, this happens ALL THE TIME.
But people who don't know much about how it works, like a plumber, could take it for murder, because they don't understand.
I dunno the particulars of this case, but it's so sad how ignorance prevails in America at a time when it doesn't have to.
That describes the current GOP.
The GOP spent 50 years working toward this goal and wants to enjoy the spoils of victory. This wasn't an unforeseen consequence - it's an acceptable casualty of their radical theocracy.dajo9 said:
The Texas Supreme Court has ruled against Kate Cox who has fled the state of Texas to receive a medically required abortion. I guess she is now a fugitive in her home state of Texas that clearly didn't care about her life. The Texas death panel has ruled against her. That is what happens when you "let the states decide" your own personal matters. Disgusting. Awful. Putrid.
https://www.threads.net/@ecmclaughlin/post/C0u80hyJXyD/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I can't imagine the politics of this are good for Republicans, but maybe it won't matter because it's Texas.dajo9 said:
The Texas Supreme Court has ruled against Kate Cox who has fled the state of Texas to receive a medically required abortion. I guess she is maybe now a fugitive in her home state of Texas that clearly didn't care about her life. The Texas death panel has ruled against her. That is what happens when you "let the states decide" your own personal matters. Disgusting. Awful. Putrid.
https://www.threads.net/@ecmclaughlin/post/C0u80hyJXyD/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Source for the screenshot above.
— steven monacelli (@stevanzetti) December 9, 2023
"A Texas Supreme Court GOP runoff has eight-year incumbent David Medina defending his spot against John Devine, a former district court judge known for his battle to keep the Ten Commandments displayed in his courtroom"https://t.co/U9mT3Prm2S
— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) January 24, 2024
Hey Greg Abbott, I thought you were gonna "end rape in Texas" https://t.co/5mDCrDorVF
— Liam Nissan™ (@theliamnissan) January 24, 2024
Wow pic.twitter.com/9PFF2hfECU
— Liam Nissan™ (@theliamnissan) January 23, 2024
I think as toxic as abortion will be for Republicans, immigration will be just as toxic for Democrats in places like Texas and Arizona.sycasey said:I can't imagine the politics of this are good for Republicans, but maybe it won't matter because it's Texas.dajo9 said:
The Texas Supreme Court has ruled against Kate Cox who has fled the state of Texas to receive a medically required abortion. I guess she is maybe now a fugitive in her home state of Texas that clearly didn't care about her life. The Texas death panel has ruled against her. That is what happens when you "let the states decide" your own personal matters. Disgusting. Awful. Putrid.
https://www.threads.net/@ecmclaughlin/post/C0u80hyJXyD/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Read this carefully. This is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama quoting the Bible for a judicial decision recognizing fertilized and frozen embryos as "children." This is absolutely insane theocracy and this is coming for all of us if we don't stop it. https://t.co/L2CEWCBMxn
— Fred Wellman (@FPWellman) February 19, 2024
Unit2Sucks said:
More radical clerics at work - this time in Alabama. So IVF is now declared unconstitutional in Alabama…..
This is a huge risk to the GOP. I imagine Trump is fuming right now and he and Desantis will do everything they can to remove this from the ballot. According to Pew, 56% of Floridians support abortion rights while only 39% oppose them (which is a pretty massive gap).dajo9 said:
Happy Roevember to the state of Florida. Women's rights will be on the ballot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna142568
Roe is not about women's rights. Roe clearly discusses a competing interest between abortion rights and the state's interest in the future life. Trimesters were the measuring stick.dajo9 said:
Happy Roevember to the state of Arizona. Women's rights will be on the ballot.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna145922
This is fabulous. Seriously. A non-existent Constitutional right is left to the will of the people. People are making their voices heard. The system is working.Unit2Sucks said:
I hope the dems can put abortion on the ballot every 4 years like the GOP did for 50 years. How many times can the GOP's anti-women's rights position be repudiated before the accept that imposing their minority view on everyone else isn't "freedom"?
Pretty callous take. Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of women have been negatively impacted by this decision. In Texas alone, there have been over 25k pregnancies resulting from rape where women have not had a choice in their outcome. Even women who chose to become pregnant have suffered when their pregnancies went wrong. Many have died. I don't think they should have to suffer because SCOTUS decided to interpret the constitution differently than it had been interpreted for the last decade (eg since before any person who will ever become pregnant had been born).tequila4kapp said:This is fabulous. Seriously. A non-existent Constitutional right is left to the will of the people. People are making their voices heard. The system is working.Unit2Sucks said:
I hope the dems can put abortion on the ballot every 4 years like the GOP did for 50 years. How many times can the GOP's anti-women's rights position be repudiated before the accept that imposing their minority view on everyone else isn't "freedom"?
It was a fundamental right protected for 50 years before anti-democratic activists flipped the court to take rights away from women.tequila4kapp said:
The federal right to an abortion was a constitutional myth created by an activist court.
We were taught the sacrosanct nature of precedent in law school. That concept is way overplayed. See the number of precedents reversed over the years, especially during the liberal court era of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s: https://constitution.congress.gov/resources/decisions-overruled/
Getting the law right is always right, which is exactly what the current SCOTUS did.
I do not agree with the status of many state regulatory schemes. Vote. If you are a sexually active person have an emergency fund to cover travel to an abortion friendly state. Yes, that's absurd. See the part about voting.
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— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) April 9, 2024
And what of the Constitutional right to an abortion for the preceding 196 years before Roe? The people who actually interpret the constitution - SCOTUS - didn't merely overlook that section of the document for 2 centuries. Somehow history only starts in 1973 for too many people.Unit2Sucks said:
For the last 50 years, until Leonard Leo's billionaire-funded takeover of SCOTUS, a woman's right to make her own pregnancy-related healthcare decisions was enshrined in the constitution, according to the people who actually interpret the constitution - SCOTUS.
How many people currently of child-bearing age alive during those 196 years? And by the way, abortion was legal under common law when the constitution was drafted and remained so until a random group of doctors went on a crusade in the mid 1800's to end abortion in a few dozen states. Benjamin Franklin even published a recipe for abortion for crying out loud. Abortion wasn't that controversial in the early days of the country.tequila4kapp said:And what of the Constitutional right to an abortion for the preceding 196 years before Roe? The people who actually interpret the constitution - SCOTUS - didn't merely overlook that section of the document for 2 centuries. Somehow history only starts in 1973 for too many people.Unit2Sucks said:
For the last 50 years, until Leonard Leo's billionaire-funded takeover of SCOTUS, a woman's right to make her own pregnancy-related healthcare decisions was enshrined in the constitution, according to the people who actually interpret the constitution - SCOTUS.
FWIW my statement about a travel fund did not account for rape victims because I wouldn't consider a rape victim to be 'sexually active' person. And state laws that don't account for rape are wrong, IMO.
Hear that pregnant ladies? Having to “get a bus ticket” to another state to see a gynecologist “isn’t the worst thing in the world” if you’re a white guy yammering on Fox.pic.twitter.com/DQ8xrLrAIo
— Grant Stern (@grantstern) April 9, 2024
Too bad Trump isn't demanding that his peons in AZ follow what he said today and not what he said previously. It's almost like he doesn't believe in anything except trying to pick the exact lie to tell in any given situation that he thinks will be the best received by his target audience.dajo9 said:
Traitor Trump flip flops on women's rights again
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-arizona-abortion_n_66159586e4b035c82d271561
— Acyn (@Acyn) April 11, 2024