In praise of Liz Cheney. May we have more politicians like her Robert Reich

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Unit2Sucks
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The winner got 100k votes. Wyoming is a mid-sized city, not a meaningful state. I love that the GOP is celebrating the fact that they got rid of one of the few remaining principled conservatives but find it hilarious that they consider this some sort of bellwether.

Don't get me wrong, I love Wyoming. Had a great week there last summer and look forward to returning. But it's a pretty unique state and not representative of much.
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Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.

Sadly, you've produced yet another post of misinformation that is as bad as your post the other day about permanent myocardial damage resulting from the Covid vaccine shot.

Personal Financial Disclosure documents report people's net worth in RANGES.
In 2020, Cheney filed her PFD declaring that her net worth was estimated between $10,422.023 and $44,155,000.

Once again, Bearinsider proves that financial literacy was not taught at one of the nation's top academic institutions. Or perhaps it's just poor reading comprehension.

Either way, it's pretty sad.





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Unit2Sucks said:

The winner got 100k votes. Wyoming is a mid-sized city, not a meaningful state. I love that the GOP is celebrating the fact that they got rid of one of the few remaining principled conservatives but find it hilarious that they consider this some sort of bellwether.

Don't get me wrong, I love Wyoming. Had a great week there last summer and look forward to returning. But it's a pretty unique state and not representative of much.
Yeah, a bit weird that they have more senators than representatives.
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If Wyoming gets two Senators and a Rep, no reason D.C. shouldn't.
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Drilling down into the Election Results in Wyoming, it doesnt take a rocket-scientist to see that Liz Cheney only won 2 counties..... Teton and Albany.

What do these two counties have in common?

A College Education

55% of Teton and Albany County residents have a Bachelor's Degree or higher.

U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts: Teton County, Wyoming

U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts: Albany County, Wyoming

Wyoming U.S. House - District 1 Republican Primary Results | USA TODAY
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Compare this to Platte County, where Hageman won by a landslide of 80.3% to 15.5%

Residents with a Bachelor's Degree or higher?

19.3%


U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts: Platte County, Wyoming



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dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.


Famous people have many avenues to wealth in America. I don't like Liz Cheney at all but these kinds of attacks are stupid. Famous politicians on both sides of the aisle enrich themselves. Attacking only your enemies for it is just partisanship. The real crime in this country is what is legal for powerful people.

This does not excuse those who engage in criminal conduct to enrich themselves. For example, Trump funneling money from his inauguration to himself. Or Congressman TJ Cox committing fraud (though I wouldn't call him famous).


How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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BearForce2 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.


Famous people have many avenues to wealth in America. I don't like Liz Cheney at all but these kinds of attacks are stupid. Famous politicians on both sides of the aisle enrich themselves. Attacking only your enemies for it is just partisanship. The real crime in this country is what is legal for powerful people.

This does not excuse those who engage in criminal conduct to enrich themselves. For example, Trump funneling money from his inauguration to himself. Or Congressman TJ Cox committing fraud (though I wouldn't call him famous).


How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
DiabloWags
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dajo9 said:

BearForce2 said:



How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
It's terribly ignorant posts like this that CONFIRM to me that one of the most active posters here never attended nor graduated from CAL. - - - And yet they spend their entire day here posting over 50X a day.

Sad really.

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DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

BearForce2 said:



How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
It's terribly ignorant posts like this that CONFIRM to me that one of the most active posters here never attended nor graduated from CAL. - - - And yet they spend their entire day here posting over 50X a day.

Sad really.

President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

Do you really think Trump was trying to make a quick buck at his inauguration? He was allowing his hotel to be used because hotels in the area were booked. Any profit from that might represent something significant for you but it's a drop in the bucket for a billionaire. Junk lawsuit.

The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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dajo9 said:



https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
Dont forget about the $2 BILLION that Jared Kushner received from the SAUDIS.

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BearForce2 said:

DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

BearForce2 said:



How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
It's terribly ignorant posts like this that CONFIRM to me that one of the most active posters here never attended nor graduated from CAL. - - - And yet they spend their entire day here posting over 50X a day.

Sad really.

President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

Do you really think Trump was trying to make a quick buck at his inauguration? He was allowing his hotel to be used because hotels in the area were booked. Any profit from that might represent something significant for you but it's a drop in the bucket for a billionaire. Junk lawsuit.


lol
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dajo9 said:

BearForce2 said:

DiabloWags said:

dajo9 said:

BearForce2 said:



How did she do it on a $174k annual salary? Go all in on Tesla stock when she first entered office?
How did Trump funnel money from his inauguration to himself? Trump was the only president whose net worth decreased after his presidency. The Obamas and Clintons also had big jumps in net worth like Cheney.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096123493/trump-inauguration-dc-hotel-lawsuit-settlement
It's terribly ignorant posts like this that CONFIRM to me that one of the most active posters here never attended nor graduated from CAL. - - - And yet they spend their entire day here posting over 50X a day.

Sad really.

President Trump left office with a net worth of about $2.5 billion, down from $4.5 billion when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.

President Trump also kept his promise and donated all of his $1.6 million in salary to charity during his time in the White House.

Do you really think Trump was trying to make a quick buck at his inauguration? He was allowing his hotel to be used because hotels in the area were booked. Any profit from that might represent something significant for you but it's a drop in the bucket for a billionaire. Junk lawsuit.


lol
It's time to let it go.

The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.

Sadly, you've produced yet another post of misinformation that is as bad as your post the other day about permanent myocardial damage resulting from the Covid vaccine shot.

Personal Financial Disclosure documents report people's net worth in RANGES.
In 2020, Cheney filed her PFD declaring that her net worth was estimated between $10,422.023 and $44,155,000.

Once again, Bearinsider proves that financial literacy was not taught at one of the nation's top academic institutions. Or perhaps it's just poor reading comprehension.

Either way, it's pretty sad.



I'll offer…
Her father made a mint and has slowly been passing it down tax free - in secret or slick ways far beyond the annual $15,000 gift exclusion amount.
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concordtom said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.

Sadly, you've produced yet another post of misinformation that is as bad as your post the other day about permanent myocardial damage resulting from the Covid vaccine shot.

Personal Financial Disclosure documents report people's net worth in RANGES.
In 2020, Cheney filed her PFD declaring that her net worth was estimated between $10,422.023 and $44,155,000.

Once again, Bearinsider proves that financial literacy was not taught at one of the nation's top academic institutions. Or perhaps it's just poor reading comprehension.

Either way, it's pretty sad.



I'll offer…
Her father made a mint and has slowly been passing it down tax free - in secret or slick ways far beyond the annual $15,000 gift exclusion amount.

Dick is reportedly worth 9 figures so I have no doubt that his wealth has a heavy influence on his kids' net worth. There is no reason to think that she's gotten rich off the government, except of course for the fact that Dick enriched them through the MIC and his role as VP who started a terrible war.

Ultimately Liz Cheney going down is good for America. For every "winner" Trump endorses to replace a garden variety conservative like Cheney, there is a crazy person like JD Vance, Dr. Oz or Hershel Walker who will squander a legitimate opportunity. The democrats have a great shot to win the senate largely because MAGA morons went for Trump's terrible choices rather than normal people. Trump is hastening the demise of the modern GOP and the only question is what it will look like after it eventually gets tired of losing winnable elections thanks to the deplorables.
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If Liz runs for POTUS, can you imagine the sh@it she will hang on tRump on the debate stage? She will call him a felon, unindicted or indicted, and call him out on dozens of other things, fearless of a defamation suit or hurting her career.

The Fat F@uck might end up with a paralyzed left side before he leaves the stage.
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DiabloWags said:


Dont forget about the $2 BILLION that Jared Kushner received from the SAUDIS.




What happened to that House panel investigation? The Saudi firm invested $2 billion in Kushner's firm 6 months after the Trump presidency. Is the House investigating Hunter Biden?
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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bearister said:

If Liz runs for POTUS, can you imagine the sh@it she will hang on tRump on the debate stage? She will call him a felon, unindicted or indicted, and call him out on dozens of other things, fearless of a defamation suit or hurting her career.

The Fat F@uck might end up with a paralyzed left side before he leaves the stage.
I would enjoy it as long as she gets out of the way when it's Trump vs. a Democrat
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concordtom said:




I'll offer…
Her father made a mint and has slowly been passing it down tax free - in secret or slick ways far beyond the annual $15,000 gift exclusion amount.


Yup.
It's amazing that BF wasnt able to connect the dots.

Her husband Philip Perry has a decent net worth as well.
He is best known for "his pioneering work litigating biotechnology issues and his work on constitutional and federal regulatory matters," and was later given the title "Litigation Trailblazer" by National Law Journal in 2018.

As of 2022, Perry works as a partner at the law firm Latham and Watkins LLP.
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

So apparently, Liz, in her 6 years in office, has gone from a net worth of $7 million, to $44 million.

If that's the kind of politician Robert Reich loves to praise, it kind of makes you wonder about his competence and judgment as a public policy professor.

Sadly, you've produced yet another post of misinformation that is as bad as your post the other day about permanent myocardial damage resulting from the Covid vaccine shot.

Personal Financial Disclosure documents report people's net worth in RANGES.
In 2020, Cheney filed her PFD declaring that her net worth was estimated between $10,422.023 and $44,155,000.

Once again, Bearinsider proves that financial literacy was not taught at one of the nation's top academic institutions. Or perhaps it's just poor reading comprehension.

Either way, it's pretty sad.






Take a look at the current prices of the ranches selling in Wyoming, Montana, Texas. She may not qualify with that net worth.
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If Wyoming gets two Senators and a Rep, no reason D.C. shouldn't.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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bearister said:

If Liz runs for POTUS, can you imagine the sh@it she will hang on tRump on the debate stage? She will call him a felon, unindicted or indicted, and call him out on dozens of other things, fearless of a defamation suit or hurting her career.

The Fat F@uck might end up with a paralyzed left side before he leaves the stage.

She'll be laughed out from the stage, she can't get elected as a Republican anywhere, except maybe on the school board of an affluent suburban purple county like River Oaks in Houston. She's as radioactive among Republicans as Tulsi is among mainstream Democrats.

So DiabloWigs, apparently Liz doubled her net worth from $7M to $14M between 2017 and 2018, she's probably a lot closer to the $44M upper limit of your estimate than the $10M bottom. I buy U2S's theory that it might be some of Dick's huge MIC blood money fortune being passed down, that has been the biggest, fattest revolving door in American politics for the last several decades.

Also Diablo, for the love of God, I 'm at a complete loss as to how you can possibly say that the Thai study which showed that 18% of young males developped abnormal EKGs after taking the jab is anything but alarming. That is not "misinformation", that is information that might preserve the health of some of our sons.

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Of course she can't win, but she can give tRump a stroke. Bullies are major p@ussies. Tulsi should marry tRump. Boris and Natasha.
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In case anyone forgot how dumb the new GOP is.


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Cal88 said:




So DiabloWigs, apparently Liz doubled her net worth from $7M to $14M between 2017 and 2018, she's probably a lot closer to the $44M upper limit of your estimate than the $10M bottom. I buy U2S's theory that it might be some of Dick's huge MIC blood money fortune being passed down, that has been the biggest, fattest revolving door in American politics for the last several decades.



It's surprising that you werent able to make the connection to her Dad.

Did you really go to CAL?
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bearister said:

Of course she can't win, but she can give tRump a stroke. Bullies are major p@ussies. Tulsi should marry tRump. Boris and Natasha.


Trump would destroy her just like he destroyed Jed Bush by focusing on Iraq and the big lies of his family, culminating when Jeb whined about him attacking his mother, " she should have run."

Liz Cheney is the Biden Republican neocon candidate a la McCain, Graham, Bush. A vestige of the past.

Trump is funny and his nicknames- Little Marco, Pocahontas, Crooked Hillary, Low Energy Jeb- are not only savage but right on the mark. I hope Liz does advance to the debate stage as she would no doubt have a doozy of a sobriquet and I look forward to her spirited defense of torture
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:




So DiabloWigs, apparently Liz doubled her net worth from $7M to $14M between 2017 and 2018, she's probably a lot closer to the $44M upper limit of your estimate than the $10M bottom. I buy U2S's theory that it might be some of Dick's huge MIC blood money fortune being passed down, that has been the biggest, fattest revolving door in American politics for the last several decades.
It's surprising that you werent able to make the connection to her Dad.
Did you really go to CAL?

One thing I liked about going to Cal was that it wasn't loaded with people who looked down on people who didn't go to Cal, like some other school in the area.

In my fifties, looking back, I have found that many of the wisest and most interesting people I have had a chance to interact with didn't go to college, or didn't attend "name" schools.

PS- I didn't mean to misspell your handle, in case that was what ruffled your feathers.
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:




So DiabloWigs, apparently Liz doubled her net worth from $7M to $14M between 2017 and 2018, she's probably a lot closer to the $44M upper limit of your estimate than the $10M bottom. I buy U2S's theory that it might be some of Dick's huge MIC blood money fortune being passed down, that has been the biggest, fattest revolving door in American politics for the last several decades.
It's surprising that you werent able to make the connection to her Dad.

Did you really go to CAL?

One thing I liked about going to Cal was that it wasn't loaded with people who looked down on people who didn't go to Cal, like some other school in the area.

In my fifties, looking back, I have found that many of the wisest and most interesting people I have had a chance to interact with didn't go to college, or didn't attend "name" schools.

PS- I didn't mean to misspell your handle, in case that was what ruffled your feathers.


Deflection.

A terrible way to admit that you're just plain uninformed. You're the one that claimed Liz Cheney had a net worth of $44 million. You're the one that was unaware of her Personal Financial Declaration being a RANGE. --- Not me.

Her Dad is worth 8 or 9 figures?
Who knew???

lol

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Anarchistbear said:

bearister said:

Of course she can't win, but she can give tRump a stroke. Bullies are major p@ussies. Tulsi should marry tRump. Boris and Natasha.


Trump would destroy her just like he destroyed Jed Bush by focusing on Iraq and the big lies of his family, culminating when Jeb whined about him attacking his mother, " she should have run."

Liz Cheney is the Biden Republican neocon candidate a la McCain, Graham, Bush. A vestige of the past.

Trump is funny and his nicknames- Little Marco, Pocahontas, Crooked Hillary, Low Energy Jeb- are not only savage but right on the mark. I hope Liz does advance to the debate stage as she would no doubt have a doozy of a sobriquet and I look forward to her spirited defense of torture


You keep mentioning Liz Cheney and her endorsement of torture: SINCE WHEN DID A LITTLE TORTURE HURT ANYONE?!?
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That's the nickname- Little Miss Torture! Well done
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Anarchistbear said:

That's the nickname- Little Miss Torture! Well done


HaLizBurton

Little Dick Cheney

Ball and Cheney

GengLiz Khan

Lots of fun nickname possibilities but we all know Trump is lazy and will call her Lyin Liz.

She should go with Lion Liz and just own it.
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I'm assuming that like Bannon, you are an anarchist, or are you just a Yogi Progressive that gets a kick out of tRump burning the country down (while pocketing some scratch)?

Are you a funny militias blowing up a federal building guy or a funny militias getting slaughtered by the Army kind of guy?

I'm thinking tRump may pick a topic other than torture to raise with LC.

Trump claims torture works but experts warn of its 'potentially existential' costs | Donald Trump | The Guardian


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/donald-trump-torture-absolutely-works-says-us-president-in-first-television-interview

His insults are as childish as his vocabulary. When he was growing up, he could only use those insults because he was under his daddy's nuclear umbrella. tRump has Little Lord Fauntleroy p@ussie written all over him. He can't hide it.

Im assuming you are a Rogan fan. If tRump is using stimulants to maintain, like Rogan claims, there is a really good chance he will be taking a dirt nap before Biden does.

Do you know what they call this?



Answer: A high pick in a Death Pool draft. Not worth many points, unfortunately.
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WMD Liz
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I have never defended her politics. She has balls. tRump is a coward. She is his worse fear and the focus of his intense hatred, a strong woman.

Hillary was afraid of him. Cheney isn't. If he is still alive, his reaction will be a classic.

Oh, and tRump will "win" the election by any means it takes, including intervention by the rubber stamp SCOTUS.

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Maybe he'll think of something more clever later if it comes to it.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
 
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