tequila4kapp said:
Your hatred manifests as reading comprehension challenges. I said let's see how this plays out. That is not defending Trump. That is expressing an opinion that some of this looks thin to me and maybe Trump is guilty of it and maybe it is another Russia hoax situation.
This has nothing to do with my scorn for Trump. Look at the allegations against him. Think about what we've learned about him over the past 7 years. Is there anything alleged that you think couldn't possibly be true? By all accounts his presidential records are full of documents that he tore up and threw in the trash or toilet and which his staff had been forced to tape together. He has never given anyone reason to think he is a good steward of records and this is largely uncontested.
He's alleged to have taken several hundred classified documents. He intermingled them with memorabilia across over a dozen disorganized boxes. He moved them around in multiple unsecured rooms, including in his personal residence.
This is the type of information in the first set of boxes that the government retrieved from MAL:
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From May 16-18, 2022, FBI agents conducted a preliminary review of the FIFTEEN BOXES provided to NARA and identified documents with classification markings in fourteen of the FIFTEEN BOXES. A prelin1ina1y triage of the documents with classification markings revealed the following approximate numbers: 184 unique documents bearing classification markings, including 67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 92 documents marked as SECRET, and 25 documents marked as TOP SECRET. Further, the FBI agents observed markings reflecting the following compartments/dissemination controls: HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI. Based on my training and experience, I know that documents
classified at these levels typically contain NDI. Several of the documents also contained what appears to be FPOTUS 's handwritten notes.
If you don't know what these classifications mean, you should do your homework. This is a huge deal and damning for Trump.
And the affidavit also says the following:
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61. On June 8, 2022, DOJ COUNSEL sent FPOTUS COUNSEL 1 a letter, which reiterated that the PREMISES are not autho1ized to store classified info1mation and requested the preservation of the STORAGE ROOM and boxes that had been moved from the White House to the PREMISES.
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77. Based upon this investigation, I believe that the STORAGE ROOM, FPOTUS's residential suite, Pine Hall, the "45 Office," and other spaces within the PREMISES are not currently authorized locations for the storage of classified information or NDI. Similarly, based upon this investigation, I do not believe that any spaces within the PREMISES have been authorized for the storage of classified information at least since the end of FPOTUS 's Presidential Administration on January 20, 2021.
78. As described above, evidence of the SUBJECT OFFENSES has been stored in multiple locations at the PREMISES.
We also know - because Trump told us by
releasing a letter from NARA - that in May he was told in no uncertain terms that he had to return everything, and that his original returned boxes had classified information. Then, the feds went back and got more from MAL a few months ago and Trump's lawyer swore in an affidavit that there was nothing else.
Now we know - again because Trump told us - that the FBI executed a search warrant and retrieved over a dozen boxes of materials. And no one has disputed that there were again documents marked classified in those boxes.
There is nothing about this that has been politicized by the Biden administration, the DOJ or FBI. This would all still be unknown to the public if Trump hadn't made it publicly known. You are pretending like there is some genuine dispute here but there really isn't. Trump stole government property and refused to return it. He was told to return it. When some was taken back, they realized it had a crazy amount of classified information. They told him that he had to return everything and went back to take more. He said there was nothing more but they learned through sources that he had more (lots apparently) and that he had it in several insecure locations in HIS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE SEASIDE RESORT which was known to be crawling with spies. He is still claiming, like the idiot that he is, that he has a right to maintain these documents and demanding they be returned to him.
The fact that you can pretend like this is "thin" proves that you either have no business making that determination or you are full of it. No reasonable person, who is at all qualified to analyze the situation, would claim that this is "thin." This is incredibly damning.
It is "incredibly thin" to think the best defenses Trump has are (i) that he declassified the incredibly dangerous information that he stored alongside memorabilia in his unsecured seaside resort and (ii) the FBI has been politicized. Embarrassingly thin.