The British Crown

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okaydo said:

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BTW, my wife wants me to watch the Crown. I say bullocks, and strike a blow on behalf of all American males. Cheerio....


The John Major quote was something.
A few SAT words in there for me!

lachrymose - I got nothing, other than it doesn't sound good.
Prolix. Effete. - same.
Philistinism… I feel I should know this one.

I'd suggest you would learn more by watching said Harry and Meghan Netflix series than the dramatized Crown, which my daughter also loves. She tells me about it.

First hand accounts are better than historical dramas with actors. At least, we should think more accurate.

That said, you would likely upchuck at aspects of it. They are definitely talking to an audience behind the camera at stretches. But also, there are stretches where it feels entirely real, not contrived. And I believe and "get" those parts.

Harry has got to be sick, and thrilled, at the same time. I do feel for him. It was kind of a no-win scenario for him. He's finding a way to create a more normal, reasonable life. I think he'll be a fairly intriguing person in 20-30-40 years. His life's journey will be quite unique!!!
I don't know. I'm liable to make some snarky remark if they really are running around in castles and get "she who must be obeyed" all pissed at me. Maybe once all this stuff is over and no one is talking about the royals I will give the interviews a look. Too many seasons of Downtown Abbey was enough to make not want to watch The Crown ever.


Downton Abbey was on for a weekend nonstop some years ago for a long weekend before all the streaming was available. Or at least until I had the knowledge of or could.
I watched most of it, sleeping 3 or 4 hours a night. It was insane.
By the end I was so sick of it.
Typical soap opera, mostly entirely useless!!! Made up dramas of inconsequence.
I suspect the crown is far superior because there is a real life basis for the dramatic storytelling.


Part of the problem is me: a Neanderthal, meat eating American male, that even looks at anything English and pretentious and wants to barf (or at least make nasty comments). I'm not even allowed in the same room as the TV if anything by Merchant and Ivory is playing. My god, you would think the only thing English gentry women know how to do is wear stupid clothes and emote for no particular reason. I'm retaining my man card - no to The Crown!

We'll just have to disagree. But I find Stephen Merchant to be hilarious.





Now we don't. You get a F in movies men hate. Merchant of M&I fame is dead, and his first name was Ismael. Stephen Merchant, no relation, sounds funny as heck, and I gladly would watch his stuff.

Okay, but a series of movies from the 1980s is not the end all and be all of British culture....



Sure, Tolkian in great. GOT is great. I enjoyed Pottter. The British make great spy movies and murder mysteries. I love Bonds (even though the franchise really is run by Americans). Just please no more banter by royals, the landed gentry, etc. in their strange clothes and customs. But maybe that is just some terrible movies from Jane Austin books. Mark Twain's insults include a gruesome line about wanting to dig up Austen's corpse and beat her over the skull with her own shin bone. See a smart American man of action.


The reality about the British aristocrats is in the end who knows what really goes on behind the scenes (especially with the cadre of PR types they all seem to have) and if anything will ever change. But as an American, I don't really care that much. It is "their" aristocracy, "they" choose to financially support it, and "they" follow and comment on its every move or statement. Its "their" problem to deal with. I have enough problems figuring out who is going to be on which college football team roster next year or where Cal is going to play its games in 2024.
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dajo9 said:

I don't really follow the royal family but when this Netflix series came out I saw a fresh round of attacks on Harry and Meghan. I decided to watch the series to see if they were really as awful as the British media claims.
This is the funniest thing I read in the last 30 days.

I don't give a flying fig about anything related to royals, but I also don't care about someone crying about her awful treatment and then turning around and profiting from the soap opera. Eventually people will get tired of this narrative and she won't have much else to sell.

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How did Harry allow himself to be attacked by Simple Prince Billy? Billy looks like he could be put down even easier than Don, Jr. His slack jaw is literally a knock out bullseye.

Prince Harry details physical attack by brother William in new book | Books | The Guardian


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book


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Apathetic Bear said:

dajo9 said:

I don't really follow the royal family but when this Netflix series came out I saw a fresh round of attacks on Harry and Meghan. I decided to watch the series to see if they were really as awful as the British media claims.
This is the funniest thing I read in the last 30 days.

I don't give a flying fig about anything related to royals, but I also don't care about someone crying about her awful treatment and then turning around and profiting from the soap opera. Eventually people will get tired of this narrative and she won't have much else to sell.


THEY!
They won't have much to sell.

I don't understand why people keep turning the turn of events into a Meghan thing.
Crazy.


But, speaking of which, when is Netflix coming out with the next few episodes??? I'm ready to binge it again.
Let's just fast forward into the future and see how they take over Hollywood, become billionaires, buy Windsor Castle in the coming American Takeover!
Would make a good series!
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Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.
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Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.


Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.
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ha ha ha ha.
maybe someone could turn that into a nice little limerick!
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Apathetic Bear said:

dajo9 said:

I don't really follow the royal family but when this Netflix series came out I saw a fresh round of attacks on Harry and Meghan. I decided to watch the series to see if they were really as awful as the British media claims.
This is the funniest thing I read in the last 30 days.

I don't give a flying fig about anything related to royals, but I also don't care about someone crying about her awful treatment and then turning around and profiting from the soap opera. Eventually people will get tired of this narrative and she won't have much else to sell.



I don't hate Meghan and Harry.

I haven't spent a minute watching their Netflix docuseries.

But I get it: They have to live an expensive lifestyle while being cut off from the crown that they have to maintain. I mean, they can't work for regular pay. They have to pay for a security team to protect them 24/7 and they can't live in a "normal" house in a "normal" neighborhood. Their family consists of the 5th, 6th and 7th people in line for the British throne. So a lot of people definitely want them dead. If King Charles, Prince William and his family are suddenly killed in a terrorist attack -- god forbid -- then Harry is the king and his children are next in line for the throne. Harry and Meghan are going through a period where they are selling their stories. Harry will be on 60 Minutes and Stephen Colbert in the coming days. Of course, they only have so much story to tell. So they're milking it for all it's worth. I don't blame them.

As you can see from the links below, there is (recent) interest in them. So why not strike while the iron is hot?




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bearister said:

How did Harry allow himself to be attacked by Simple Prince Billy? Billy looks like he could be put down even easier than Don, Jr. His slack jaw is literally a knock out bullseye.

Prince Harry details physical attack by brother William in new book | Books | The Guardian


https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book


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From the linked article:

Harry (referring to his horse-faced brother): "(He) grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace... "

Harry doesn't seem so tough either. I bet it was a pearl necklace he was wearing, not that there's anything wrong with that. I wonder why William didn't also rip his earrings and bracelet and then tear off his pumps.

Pure speculation on my part, but I bet Meghan dresses up Harry in women's clothing (again, hey, that's cool, whatever).
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"…bet it was a pearl necklace."

The kind ZZ Top sang about?


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Is this latest post the true intersection of this royal thread with the rain songs thread???
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Is this latest post the true intersection of this royal thread with the rain songs thread???


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okaydo said:

Apathetic Bear said:

dajo9 said:

I don't really follow the royal family but when this Netflix series came out I saw a fresh round of attacks on Harry and Meghan. I decided to watch the series to see if they were really as awful as the British media claims.
This is the funniest thing I read in the last 30 days.

I don't give a flying fig about anything related to royals, but I also don't care about someone crying about her awful treatment and then turning around and profiting from the soap opera. Eventually people will get tired of this narrative and she won't have much else to sell.



I don't hate Meghan and Harry.

I haven't spent a minute watching their Netflix docuseries.

But I get it: They have to live an expensive lifestyle while being cut off from the crown that they have to maintain. I mean, they can't work for regular pay. They have to pay for a security team to protect them 24/7 and they can't live in a "normal" house in a "normal" neighborhood. Their family consists of the 5th, 6th and 7th people in line for the British throne. So a lot of people definitely want them dead. If King Charles, Prince William and his family are suddenly killed in a terrorist attack -- god forbid -- then Harry is the king and his children are next in line for the throne. Harry and Meghan are going through a period where they are selling their stories. Harry will be on 60 Minutes and Stephen Colbert in the coming days. Of course, they only have so much story to tell. So they're milking it for all it's worth. I don't blame them.

As you can see from the links below, there is (recent) interest in them. So why not strike while the iron is hot?








Also: When you're a high-profile person who's killed 25 people and who's involved in drugs, you should have security.

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bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?
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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.


Don't get me wrong, I'm the polar opposite of a Royals fanboy. I was simply engaging in a sportsman's speculation of the probable outcome of a dustup between inbreds (well, one of them anyway).

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bearister said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.


Don't get me wrong, I'm the polar opposite of a Royals fanboy. I was simply engaging in a sportsman's speculation of the probable outcome of a dustup between inbreds (well, one of them anyway).



Harry Mountbatten-Windsor's attitude towards the Afghans he's wasted from his Apache chopper was probably very similar to the Black and Tans who were mowing down unarmed Irishmen a century ago.
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dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/
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….in other news, the Royal popsicle:

Prince Harry's frostbitten p@enis isn't as rare as you may think*



https://mol.im/a/11606105


*I actually have never thought about iced wurst

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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.


Don't get me wrong, I'm the polar opposite of a Royals fanboy. I was simply engaging in a sportsman's speculation of the probable outcome of a dustup between inbreds (well, one of them anyway).



Harry Mountbatten-Windsor's attitude towards the Afghans he's wasted from his Apache chopper was probably very similar to the Black and Tans who were mowing down unarmed Irishmen a century ago.


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you guys still whining about which royal is better. Both Harry and Willy had similar careers. Wills got to play with armored vehicles for a few years in the Belize jungle, then became a search and rescue pilot and supposedly did 130 or so rescue runs in the Falklands, presumably rescuing beer to other pilots doing real fighting, and avoiding a PR disaster should anything happen to him or his bird.

Harry being the spare actually appeared to do stuff. His first tour of duty in the Afghan war he sat in a vehicle asa
forward air controller, co-ordinating airstrikes on Taliban positions. He probable was in real danger. Ih his second tour he returned to Afghanistan as a helicopter co-pilot and gunner, and now being behind young George, got to shoot at real people and killed 25, or as he puts it in his tell-all memoir that in the heat of combat, he did not think of the 25 as "people" but instead as "chess pieces" that had been taken off the board. How Royal of him.

Now there is 15 minutes of my life wasted.


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Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/



You said he shot wedding attendees and herders. Where is your evidence to support that claim?
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dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/

You said ghe shot wedding attendees and herders. Where is your evidence to support that claim?

Daniel Hale US Air Force intelligence analyst who oversaw drone warfare in Afghanistan estimated that 90% of Afghanis killed in USAF attacks were civilian collateral damage.

He's currently serving a 5 year jail sentence for having publicly disclosed this information.



(note that the link above is actually correct, but somehow won't play here, you will have to google "Democracy Now Committing the Truth Whistleblower Daniel Hale to Be Sentenced Tuesday for Drone Program Leaks" in order to get there).


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Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/

You said ghe shot wedding attendees and herders. Where is your evidence to support that claim?

Daniel Hale US Air Force intelligence analyst who oversaw drone warfare in Afghanistan estimated that 90% of Afghanis killed in USAF attacks were civilian collateral damage.

He's currently serving a 5 year jail sentence for having publicly disclosed this information.



(note that the link above is actually correct, but somehow won't play here, you will have to google "Democracy Now Committing the Truth Whistleblower Daniel Hale to Be Sentenced Tuesday for Drone Program Leaks" in order to get there).





You are lying again. It is as clear as black and white.

The lie is that Hale claimed 90% of USAF attacks killed civilians. He said that about U.S. drone strikes (I have no idea how accurate that is). Harry was neither involved in drones or serving for the USAF.
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dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/

You said ghe shot wedding attendees and herders. Where is your evidence to support that claim?

Daniel Hale US Air Force intelligence analyst who oversaw drone warfare in Afghanistan estimated that 90% of Afghanis killed in USAF attacks were civilian collateral damage.

He's currently serving a 5 year jail sentence for having publicly disclosed this information.



(note that the link above is actually correct, but somehow won't play here, you will have to google "Democracy Now Committing the Truth Whistleblower Daniel Hale to Be Sentenced Tuesday for Drone Program Leaks" in order to get there).

You are lying again. It is as clear as black and white.

The lie is that Hale claimed 90% of USAF attacks killed civilians. He said that about U.S. drone strikes (I have no idea how accurate that is). Harry was neither involved in drones or serving for the USAF.

Typical character attacks based on the flimsiest hairsplitting disingenuous argument - don't ever change dajo9.

The modus operandi, whether in drone attacks, choppers or patrols is shoot first and ask questions later, whether it's the USAF, the RAF or Australian rangers on a mission to clear Afghani My Lais.

Australian rangers slaughter a whole village of unarmed farmers - 'They decided to kill all of them'
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/deadliest-alleged-war-crime-by-special-forces-in-afghanistan/13362000

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/video-shows-afghan-man-shot-at-close-range-by-australian-sas/12028512

The difference here with the Australian SAS vs the RAF or the US rangers is that the Aussies have better reporters, or maybe their soldiers were cocky enough to post footage of their dirty deeds.

In drone attacks, you have a guy with a joystick sitting in front of a high-def monitor relaying real-time broad daylight footage dispensing death from above to people in "hostile" regions designated by their higher ups, ie people who don't want to live under the boot of foreign soldiers from halfway around the world. Same as in chopper attacks and in commando raids, they go in into designated bad hombre nests (local villages) and shoot stuff/people up.


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Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

dajo9 said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

concordtom said:

Yeah, Wills is taller, but I'd put my money on Harry.
He probably wouldn't rough up his future king brother, however.

Prince Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013. Prince Billy played with his willy.

Shooting up wedding parties and goat herders from the safety of a high-end $50 million attack helicopter doesn't take all that much courage. Supposedly he has killed 25 Afghans, and did not express any remorse about it.
Where is your evidence to support that claim?

You're either a bit lazy or have very poor search skills.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/05/prince-harry-military-army-afghanistan-killed-25-spare-sussex/

You said ghe shot wedding attendees and herders. Where is your evidence to support that claim?

Daniel Hale US Air Force intelligence analyst who oversaw drone warfare in Afghanistan estimated that 90% of Afghanis killed in USAF attacks were civilian collateral damage.

He's currently serving a 5 year jail sentence for having publicly disclosed this information.



(note that the link above is actually correct, but somehow won't play here, you will have to google "Democracy Now Committing the Truth Whistleblower Daniel Hale to Be Sentenced Tuesday for Drone Program Leaks" in order to get there).

You are lying again. It is as clear as black and white.

The lie is that Hale claimed 90% of USAF attacks killed civilians. He said that about U.S. drone strikes (I have no idea how accurate that is). Harry was neither involved in drones or serving for the USAF.

Typical character attacks based on the flimsiest hairsplitting disingenuous argument - don't ever change dajo9.

The modus operandi, whether in drone attacks, choppers or patrols is shoot first and ask questions later, whether it's the USAF, the RAF or Australian rangers on a mission to clear Afghani My Lais.

Australian rangers slaughter a whole village of unarmed farmers - 'They decided to kill all of them'
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/deadliest-alleged-war-crime-by-special-forces-in-afghanistan/13362000

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/video-shows-afghan-man-shot-at-close-range-by-australian-sas/12028512

The difference here with the Australian SAS vs the RAF or the US rangers is that the Aussies have better reporters, or maybe their soldiers were cocky enough to post footage of their dirty deeds.

In drone attacks, you have a guy with a joystick sitting in front of a high-def monitor relaying real-time broad daylight footage dispensing death from above to people in "hostile" regions designated by their higher ups, ie people who don't want to live under the boot of foreign soldiers from halfway around the world. Same as in chopper attacks and in commando raids, they go in into designated bad hombre nests (local villages) and shoot stuff/people up.





You made a guy out to be a murderer for activities he wasn't engaged in and I'm hairsplitting?

Go tell Putin you tried but it didn't land.
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Prince Harry 'has been written out of King Charles' Coronation



https://mol.im/a/11609873

*Harry and Billy should do a PPV cage fight with all proceeds going to a Dublin charity. I'd pay $50.
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bearister said:

Prince Harry 'has been written out of King Charles' Coronation



https://mol.im/a/11609873

*Harry and Billy should do a PPV cage fight with all proceeds going to a Dublin charity. I'd pay $50.


These people are so petty.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/07/the-observer-view-on-how-prince-harrys-stream-of-revelations-will-benefit-no-one

https://www.newidea.com.au/prince-harry-real-dad-mark-dyer



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I felt nostalgic for my young-adult years this evening, so I turned the TV on to channel 5 (remember "channels"?) and watched 60 Minutes... and there's Harry, promoting his new book! Gonna be on the morning shows tomorrow, too. It was sad to hear his deeply personal account of how badly his close family members had treated him. The reason it was sad is because who the hell would tell a TV reporter all that personal stuff?!? Oh yeah, the book...

I guess Mehgan has been spending it faster than he could bring it in. Catty, tell-all book time, fam!
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Big C said:


I felt nostalgic for my young-adult years this evening, so I turned the TV on to channel 5 (remember "channels"?) and watched 60 Minutes... and there's Harry, promoting his new book! Gonna be on the morning shows tomorrow, too. It was sad to hear his deeply personal account of how badly his close family members had treated him. The reason it was sad is because who the hell would tell a TV reporter all that personal stuff?!? Oh yeah, the book...

I guess Mehgan has been spending it faster than he could bring it in. Catty, tell-all book time, fam!


I was in total agreement with you until the last bit. Once again, why are people assigning all of this to Meghan???? Why ???

He is the driver in this! It's his family, his complaints about his life, his face on the book, he's giving the interviews… she is mainly a conduit to him coping with what has ailed him about his upbringing, his empty life role as "spare". My god, what a horrible message to give a child -

"son, you were always merely an insurance policy, and now that your brother has had children you've been made redundant."

Harry is responsible for his choices. Let's not blame the woman.
concordtom
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My other thoughts on the matter:

…aired last night, media interviews in advance of book release. Promotional tour, essentially.

I believe what he says about his family treating him that way, and I am for his battle to change the relationship between royalty and tabloids, but I don't agree with how he's going about it. He's not going to change other people by doing to them the very thing he's complaining of.

But I very much understand his need to call it out. It's part of his therapy.

Horrible situation. Charles is an imp, weak, feckless father.
I think growing up in that bubble has got to be incredibly stifling.

He should just drop all the media stuff. No tv, no books, just try to live a normal life in California. He's really wrecked any possibility on the harmony he seeks by going public with it all. I feel sorry for him, but what did he think he was going to accomplish?

$$$$, that's what.
He needed the money!
Sad.
Big C
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concordtom said:

Big C said:


I felt nostalgic for my young-adult years this evening, so I turned the TV on to channel 5 (remember "channels"?) and watched 60 Minutes... and there's Harry, promoting his new book! Gonna be on the morning shows tomorrow, too. It was sad to hear his deeply personal account of how badly his close family members had treated him. The reason it was sad is because who the hell would tell a TV reporter all that personal stuff?!? Oh yeah, the book...

I guess Mehgan has been spending it faster than he could bring it in. Catty, tell-all book time, fam!


I was in total agreement with you until the last bit. Once again, why are people assigning all of this to Meghan???? Why ???

He is the driver in this! It's his family, his complaints about his life, his face on the book, he's giving the interviews… she is mainly a conduit to him coping with what has ailed him about his upbringing, his empty life role as "spare". My god, what a horrible message to give a child -

"son, you were always merely an insurance policy, and now that your brother has had children you've been made redundant."

Harry is responsible for his choices. Let's not blame the woman.

When taking a shot at Harry, I just couldn't resist taking a gratuitous shot at Meghan, too.
wifeisafurd
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concordtom said:

My other thoughts on the matter:

…aired last night, media interviews in advance of book release. Promotional tour, essentially.

I believe what he says about his family treating him that way, and I am for his battle to change the relationship between royalty and tabloids, but I don't agree with how he's going about it. He's not going to change other people by doing to them the very thing he's complaining of.

But I very much understand his need to call it out. It's part of his therapy.

Horrible situation. Charles is an imp, weak, feckless father.
I think growing up in that bubble has got to be incredibly stifling.

He should just drop all the media stuff. No tv, no books, just try to live a normal life in California. He's really wrecked any possibility on the harmony he seeks by going public with it all. I feel sorry for him, but what did he think he was going to accomplish?

$$$$, that's what.
He needed the money!
Sad.
At some point the public is going to tire of hearing his grievances, and he really doesn't have anything else to sell. Megan at least can fall back on acting, and she many need to consider restarting her career, as mansions need upkeep, servants must be paid, flying private isn't cheap, nor is jet setting. It is not like Harry is used to operating on a budget - he seems to have a very high burn rate.
concordtom
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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.
 
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