concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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They were put in the public sphere by the media. They responded to the public sphere in the media. Please don't act like they came out of nowhere and put themselves on you.

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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They were put in the public sphere by the media. They responded to the public sphere in the media. Please don't act like they came out of nowhere and put themselves on you.

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Yeah, like these two are eschewing celebrityhood (except for the unpleasant necessity of clearing their good name!). LOL.

Again, you like 'em? Good for you. Maybe you can meet them at a book-signing. Heck, they might want to hang out!

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Larry Finlay, managing director of Transworld Penguin Random House, said; "We always knew this book would fly but it is exceeding even our most bullish expectations."#Spare #PrinceHarry https://t.co/UAXvcR0mRh

— Anna 🌸 (@anna_itsonlyme) January 10, 2023

Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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They were put in the public sphere by the media. They responded to the public sphere in the media. Please don't act like they came out of nowhere and put themselves on you.

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Yeah, like these two are eschewing celebrityhood (except for the unpleasant necessity of clearing their good name!). LOL.

Again, you like 'em? Good for you. Maybe you can meet them at a book-signing. Heck, they might want to hang out!

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They aren't eschewing celebrity. They are getting their story out after being piled on by the media for years. And, in American tradition, getting richer doing it.

Larry Finlay, managing director of Transworld Penguin Random House, said; "We always knew this book would fly but it is exceeding even our most bullish expectations."#Spare #PrinceHarry https://t.co/UAXvcR0mRh

— Anna 🌸 (@anna_itsonlyme) January 10, 2023

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Big C said:

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I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.

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concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.

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I'd like to give you credit for taking good care of yourself. I salute you!!

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Apathetic Bear said:

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Big C said:

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dajo9 said:

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Tough crowd.

Here you've got this son pestered his entire life by a relentless press and a moronic father beholden to it on the one side and on the other is an accomplished, smart, brave woman who has big time batted above her average in life,

but all some see is what's wrong with them.

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"What's wrong with them" is that they are trying to be professional victims/celebrities. I didn't go looking for Harry or Mehgan to have somebody to criticize or dislike; they came to me. They're putting themselves out there to be famous and to try and monetize that fame. Members of the general public can choose to like what they see, or not like it. The fact that I stayed through the 60 Minutes commercial break to watch the second part of the segment means they probably got what they wanted. (The reason I didn't turn it off was that I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.)

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If you put it that way, they didn't come to you - the disgusting British tabloid media brought them to you. You seem to have ignored that but when they try to defend themselves in the public sphere (from the attacks made against them in the public sphere) you suddenly get huffy and want to know why.

Concordtom is right. "all some see is what's wrong with them". I think Meghan Markle is great. Harry seems cool, too. I can relate to the troubles he's had with his step-mother for sure.

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Did the British tabloids really bring them to me? Because I don't read the British tabloids. I saw them when they chose to go on an Oprah special and on 60 Minutes. You see a Harry who is "cool". I see a guy who grew up with all the privilege in the world, playing the victim and telling personal stories about his family on TV, to promote his book. To me, that's lame, not cool.

Whether one chooses to like or dislike a celebrity is more like a leisure activity than it is real life, so there are no right answers here. Great that you like these two; more power to you. And the fact that I don't like them, it is just a reaction I'm having (sort of like a rash?). Bottom line is that I don't really care and this is just the smallest of potatoes, in the grand scheme of things.

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To quote another thread in this forum, sheep gonna sheep.

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Big C said:

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concordtom said:

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Big C said:

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I like to watch TV while I do my core workout, but that doesn't matter.

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I'd like to give you credit for taking good care of yourself. I salute you!!

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I used to have lower back problems, but no more (knock on wood). Easy workout, w/o equipment, 20 minutes, twice a week.

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prospeCt said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/13/dartmoor-estate-landowner-alexander-darwall-court-case-right-to-camp

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/commentisfree/2023/jan/13/prince-harry-title-duke-duchess-sussex-spare

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South Park makes fun of Harry and Meghan. As usual, they get it spot on. 👌🏼 pic.twitter.com/JURRIgHvsF

— Chris Rose (@ArchRose90) February 16, 2023

Ursine said:

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South Park makes fun of Harry and Meghan. As usual, they get it spot on. 👌🏼 pic.twitter.com/JURRIgHvsF

— Chris Rose (@ArchRose90) February 16, 2023

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