For the past year and a half, CJR has been examining the American media’s coverage of Trump and Russia in granular detail, and what it means as the country enters a new political cycle https://t.co/CELmlFTwVC

— CJR (@CJR) January 31, 2023

The CJR piece was written by Jeff Gerth who is most famous for his bad reporting on Whitewater in the 1990s. This CJR piece suffers from the same innuendo, bias, and anti-Hillary derangement.

"Trump may have been the victim of occasionally errant reporting. But he was no victim of a hoax or a media witch hunt. He helped an adversary sabotage an American election. The true media failure is that Trump got away with it," @DavidCornDC writes. https://t.co/5NaRUnTder

— Seth Hettena (@seth_hettena) February 2, 2023

Still waiting for details on the 102 meetings between tRump Campaign and Russians in the lead up to the 2016 Election.

bearister said:

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Still waiting for details on the 102 meetings between tRump Campaign and Russians in the lead up to the 2016 Election.

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Seeing each other at a convention and talking for 30 seconds in passing was considered a meeting. So was a 30 second phone call.

Welcome back BareFarce..................said no one ever.

Links between Trump associates and Russian officials - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-contacts-russians-wikileaks.html

Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html

All of Donald Trump's Ties to Russia and Putin, in 7 Charts - POLITICO Magazine


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

Trump campaign Russia contacts were 'grave threat', says Senate report - BBC News


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53830374

*In a prior era, tRump would have been properly charged, properly tried, properly convicted, and then properly hung by the neck until dead in the central courtyard of USP Leavenworth.

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Still waiting for details on the 102 meetings between tRump Campaign and Russians in the lead up to the 2016 Election.

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A lawyer, a spy, a mob boss, and a money launderer walk into a bar.

The bartender says:
"You guys must be here to talk about adoption."

John Brennan has a lot to answer for—going before the American public for months, cloaked with CIA authority and openly suggesting he’s got secret info, and repeatedly turning in performances like this. pic.twitter.com/EziCxy9FVQ

— Terry Moran 🇺🇸 (@TerryMoran) March 25, 2019

A new investigation from the leading institution in journalism shows how the mainstream media perpetrated the Russiagate hoax. What’s the media’s reaction to this? The same as their reaction to @mtaibbi’s expose of the Hamilton68 hoax: Pretend it doesn’t exist. https://t.co/0AJlzsDV3T

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) February 13, 2023

1. #DisinfoGate- VIDEO: Government official admits that Intel Community “partnered” w/ Social Media & worked together in “TAKING STUFF DOWN”

Bill Evanina is the first official to admit this publicly

The effort to ‘combat Disinfo,’ ahead of 2020 election, was as large as 9/11 https://t.co/oG8vO8DIX1 pic.twitter.com/8Q3epJtJPl

— Name Redacted (@NameRedacted247) February 6, 2023

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Ursine said:

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A new investigation from the leading institution in journalism shows how the mainstream media perpetrated the Russiagate hoax. What’s the media’s reaction to this? The same as their reaction to @mtaibbi’s expose of the Hamilton68 hoax: Pretend it doesn’t exist. https://t.co/0AJlzsDV3T

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) February 13, 2023

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The Spectator is the "leading institution in journalism"? Talk about casting doubt on your message!

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Furthermore, the author of the CJR piece is the same hack that propped up bogus claims about Whitewater in the 1990s

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"This is just the Democrats," @ChrisLynnHedges says. "They're a little slicker, but it's the same kind of conspiracy theory and self delusion that grips the far right. There's no difference."@kthalps @aaronjmate
Full interview: https://t.co/NOTFmEnpJA pic.twitter.com/PhmHVFerRA

— Useful Idiots (@UsefulIdiotpod) February 21, 2023

Tonight on @SystemUpdate_, live at 7pm ET:

RUSSIAGATE: The Complete Retrospective

The Russiagate Fraud, Its Consequences, The Ongoing Damage, Those Who Caused It, and The Lack of Any Accountability -- With @aaronjmate https://t.co/jVB14vOs7C

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 2, 2024

There is plenty of information on some of these meetings. Those interested in truth and not Russian propaganda should read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

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There is plenty of information on some of these meetings. Those interested in truth and not Russian propaganda should read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials#March_2017


If there was one egregious event, it would have been identified as such, instead we have a long list of mundane meetings of the order of "the POTUS and some of his officials met with the Russian ambassador".

102 meetings!
99 billion Big Macs sold!!!

Someone associated with Trump met socialite Wendi Deng... who allegedly dated Putin!!! - that's the level of expertise that is being trotted here. I mean you have to be near ConcordTom levels of TDS to buy into this kind of propaganda.

tRump and Billy Barr Sinister were fans of the Mueller Report, interpreting it as totally exonerating tRump from Russian Hoax allegations.

Well, all the Russian/tRump World contacts (140?) were in the Mueller Report, tRump simply felt no need to explain it and no one present at the meetings was tellin'.

Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/01/26/us/politics/trump-contacts-russians-wikileaks.html

*Anyone who looks me in the eye and tells me Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn are kosher has me reaching to protect my wallet. I have read a few stories in military publications about Flynn once being respected by his colleagues….before mentally degrading and falling down a Q rabbit hole. Manafort? Is there actually a debate about his function?

People are allowed to meet.

Meetings are bad if there is a nefarious purpose.

This is where The Left went off the deep end.

Your cited link shows 1 of the 140 evil Mueller Report "meetings" was an email in the summer of 2015 from an online Russian newspaper to Hope Hicks - Communications Director - asking for a Trump interview. She also received a congratulatory note from Putin to Trump after Trump won the election.

It is amazing our nation survived these Manchurian Candidate tactics.

It has never been contested that the Russians' candidate of choice was tRump. That being the case, one can assume what the subject matter of the meetings related to other than Russian adoptions and the dirt on Hillary discussion tRump Lite admitted to.

"Mueller spent almost 200 pages describing "numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign." He found that "a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton." He also found that "a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations" against the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents….

Mueller found that Trump campaign members Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with Russian nationals in Trump Tower in New York June 2016 for the purpose of receiving disparaging information about Clinton as part of "Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump," according to an email message arranging the meeting. This meeting did not amount to a criminal offense, in part, because Mueller was unable to establish "willfulness," that is, that the participants knew that their conduct was illegal."

Mueller Report: Breaking Down the Biggest Myths | TIME


https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/


*Based on all the discussion in the Ukraine Invasion thread that Russia is not really our enemy and Putin has valid reasons for his actions in the Ukraine, I don't really understand the resistance by the Right and the Matt Taibbi School of De Facto tRump Support to own, and actually relish in, tRump's cozy relationship with the Russians. When viewed from that perspective, tRump did nothing wrong, and Michael Flynn would be the first guy to tell you that.

I haven't noticed the Russia, Russia, Russia narratives circulating yet and it's already February.

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*Based on all the discussion in the Ukraine Invasion thread that Russia is not really our enemy and Putin has valid reasons for his actions in the Ukraine, I don't really understand the resistance by the Right and the Matt Taibbi School of De Facto tRump Support to own, and actually relish in, tRump's cozy relationship with the Russians. When viewed from that perspective, tRump did nothing wrong, and Michael Flynn would be the first guy to tell you that.

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The only time the Putinista tankies will ever acknowledge the massive demographic problems facing Russia is when they try to pretend that Trump genuinely took a meeting with a representative of the Russian government to discuss adoptions lol.

Everyone knows that Russia's perfectly happy stealing children and doesn't need to rely on arms-length adoption.

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*Based on all the discussion in the Ukraine Invasion thread that Russia is not really our enemy and Putin has valid reasons for his actions in the Ukraine, I don't really understand the resistance by the Right and the Matt Taibbi School of De Facto tRump Support to own, and actually relish in, tRump's cozy relationship with the Russians. When viewed from that perspective, tRump did nothing wrong, and Michael Flynn would be the first guy to tell you that.

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The only time the Putinista tankies will ever acknowledge the massive demographic problems facing Russia is when they try to pretend that Trump genuinely took a meeting with a representative of the Russian government to discuss adoptions lol.

Everyone knows that Russia's perfectly happy stealing children and doesn't need to rely on arms-length adoption.

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It is kind of funny that the FBI is wiretapping everyone in Trump's orbit, and the best they can do is find out that one time Russian folks were trying to give Trump's team information on how Russia was illegally funding the DNC.

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It is kind of funny that the FBI is wiretapping everyone in Trump's orbit, and the best they can do is find out that one time Russian folks were trying to give Trump's team information on how Russia was illegally funding the DNC.

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1. Please provide citation with link for support of FBI wiretapping of tRump associate (other than convicted felon Manafort and Carter Page); and

2. Please provide citation with link for support of Russia funding the DNC.

Thank you.

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It is kind of funny that the FBI is wiretapping everyone in Trump's orbit, and the best they can do is find out that one time Russian folks were trying to give Trump's team information on how Russia was illegally funding the DNC.

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1. Please provide citation with link for support of FBI wiretapping of tRump associate (other than convicted felon Manafort and Carter Page); and

2. Please provide citation with link for support of Russia funding the DNC.

Thank you.

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1) We learned that in the final days of the 2016 presidential race, when the Clinton campaign came up with the Steele dossier a collection of sensational and unsupported allegations about Trump and Russia the FBI used the dossier to win approval to wiretap Carter Page, a low-level former Trump campaign adviser. Then we learned that also in 2016, the FBI used a confidential informant, a professor named Stefan Halper, to spy on Page and George Papadopoulos, another low-level Trump adviser.

Then we learned that in 2016, the FBI sent an undercover agent a woman who used the alias Azra Turk to secretly record conversations with Papadopoulos.

In a court filing Friday, Durham reported that in July 2016, a tech executive named Rodney Joffe (he is unnamed in the court papers, but his name has been widely reported) worked with the Clinton campaign's law firm to "mine internet data," some of it "non-public and/or proprietary" that means secret to search for information that could be used to claim a Trump-Russia connection. Among the secret data that was "exploited," according to Durham, was internet traffic from Trump Tower, from Donald Trump's Central Park West apartment building and after Trump was elected the executive office of the president of the United States, or EOP.

Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" a government contract to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."

After that, the Clinton team went to the CIA to try to get the nation's spy agency interested in the anti-Trump effort. That mirrored earlier Clinton approaches to the FBI, when Clinton operatives tried to interest agents in what is known as the "Alfa Bank" story, which was a phony allegation that there were all sorts of suspicious connections between a Russian bank and the Trump campaign.

The bigger goal of all of it, Durham says, was "to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia." So there was a two-track operation going on: While the FBI was doing spying of its own, the Clinton team was spying, too, and trying to get the FBI and CIA involved. It was all part of a larger plan to push the "narrative" of Trump-Russia collusion.

How did it end? You'll remember that a special counsel, Robert Mueller, using all the resources and powers of federal law enforcement, searched for collusion for years and could never establish that it happened, much less that any Trump campaign figures might have been involved.

The new revelation is confirmation for some of the Republicans who uncovered the early clues of the spying operation. "Democrat-paid operatives illegally hacked their political opponents' communications during a presidential campaign and then did it again to a sitting president and the White House staff," said Devin Nunes, who as House Intelligence Committee chairman investigated the spying allegations. He just left Congress and is now CEO of the new Trump social media venture.

2) I am not sure why you are asking this. Some Russian duped someone in Trump's team that they had this info and then apparently didn't. That was the premise of this HUGE smoking gun meeting you are referring to.

dajo9 said:

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There is plenty of information on some of these meetings. Those interested in truth and not Russian propaganda should read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL Wikipedia

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oski003 said:

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It is kind of funny that the FBI is wiretapping everyone in Trump's orbit, and the best they can do is find out that one time Russian folks were trying to give Trump's team information on how Russia was illegally funding the DNC.

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1. Please provide citation with link for support of FBI wiretapping of tRump associate (other than convicted felon Manafort and Carter Page); and

2. Please provide citation with link for support of Russia funding the DNC.

Thank you.

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1) We learned that in the final days of the 2016 presidential race, when the Clinton campaign came up with the Steele dossier a collection of sensational and unsupported allegations about Trump and Russia the FBI used the dossier to win approval to wiretap Carter Page, a low-level former Trump campaign adviser. Then we learned that also in 2016, the FBI used a confidential informant, a professor named Stefan Halper, to spy on Page and George Papadopoulos, another low-level Trump adviser.

Then we learned that in 2016, the FBI sent an undercover agent a woman who used the alias Azra Turk to secretly record conversations with Papadopoulos.

In a court filing Friday, Durham reported that in July 2016, a tech executive named Rodney Joffe (he is unnamed in the court papers, but his name has been widely reported) worked with the Clinton campaign's law firm to "mine internet data," some of it "non-public and/or proprietary" that means secret to search for information that could be used to claim a Trump-Russia connection. Among the secret data that was "exploited," according to Durham, was internet traffic from Trump Tower, from Donald Trump's Central Park West apartment building and after Trump was elected the executive office of the president of the United States, or EOP.

Joffe's company, Durham says, "had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement" a government contract to provide tech services. They then "exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's [internet] traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump."

After that, the Clinton team went to the CIA to try to get the nation's spy agency interested in the anti-Trump effort. That mirrored earlier Clinton approaches to the FBI, when Clinton operatives tried to interest agents in what is known as the "Alfa Bank" story, which was a phony allegation that there were all sorts of suspicious connections between a Russian bank and the Trump campaign.

The bigger goal of all of it, Durham says, was "to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia." So there was a two-track operation going on: While the FBI was doing spying of its own, the Clinton team was spying, too, and trying to get the FBI and CIA involved. It was all part of a larger plan to push the "narrative" of Trump-Russia collusion.

How did it end? You'll remember that a special counsel, Robert Mueller, using all the resources and powers of federal law enforcement, searched for collusion for years and could never establish that it happened, much less that any Trump campaign figures might have been involved.

The new revelation is confirmation for some of the Republicans who uncovered the early clues of the spying operation. "Democrat-paid operatives illegally hacked their political opponents' communications during a presidential campaign and then did it again to a sitting president and the White House staff," said Devin Nunes, who as House Intelligence Committee chairman investigated the spying allegations. He just left Congress and is now CEO of the new Trump social media venture.

2) I am not sure why you are asking this. Some Russian duped someone in Trump's team that they had this info and then apparently didn't. That was the premise of this HUGE smoking gun meeting you are referring to.

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So you went from "the FBI is wiretapping everyone in Trump's orbit" to a long series of paragraphs that only mentions Carter Page being wiretapped and no one else. The rest of the stuff you mentioned was not wiretapping.

Fair enough. Still quite a bit of spying to only come up with the nothingburger of the "meetings."

So give me a linked source for this. Thanks.