"FOX News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways," a statement announcing the departure reads. "Mr. Carlson's last program was Friday"

(Source: Tucker Carlson out immediately)

Queue MAGAs claiming Tucker is a RINO.

Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

Why even ask someone who has a record of spewing "twisted" logic to explain himself?

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Why even ask someone who has a record of spewing "twisted" logic to explain himself?

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"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never be in peril. When you are ignorant of the enemy, but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal. If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain in every battle to be in peril."

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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You're not my enemy. We just disagree.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

Here's what I'm sending to my Republican friends.

"As Obama once said, it's not cool to spike the football in your opponent's face."

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has not been pleased with a number of interviews Fox News hosts and pundits have conducted with former President Trump in recent weeks.

"In recent weeks I've watched 3hrs of FOX interviews of Trump All I hear is history," Grassley tweeted on Sunday night. "Why hv hannity tucker and levin never asked him abt future WHAT TRUMP WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH IN HIS NEXT TERM. Elections are abt the future not the past."

Since announcing his bid for the Republican nomination for president in 2024, Trump has sat with hosts Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin for wide-ranging interviews.

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He has no plans for the future. I doubt he even wants to be President except for the adulation. He has no interest in governing. He proved that the first time.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

BREAKING: Dylan Mulvaney announced as Don Lemon's replacement at CNN.

Tucker out at Fox one day after Ray Epps goes on 60 Minutes

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

🚨BREAKING: Explosive video surfaces of FOX News stars Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, and Sean Hannity slamming Trump's "insane" voting machine fraud allegations as "absurd," "ridiculous," and "complete BS"! pic.twitter.com/Ot9TZQKSLh

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) April 18, 2023

It was the Democrats that spread truths about vulnerable machines in 2019.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

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What do you think the white house press secretary does? Should she lose her job too? lol Tucker is entertainment more than news.

BREAKING: Fox News Corp. has lost $930 MILLION in market value today since news of Tucker Carlson departing broke. https://t.co/ad24F64qa1

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

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What do you think the white house press secretary does? Should she lose her job too? lol

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Her job is not to tell lies. If and when she is caught in a deliberate lie, her employment should be over.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

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What do you think the white house press secretary does? Should she lose her job too? lol

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Her job is not to tell lies. If and when she is caught in a deliberate lie, her employment should be over.

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

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What do you think the white house press secretary does? Should she lose her job too? lol

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Her job is not to tell lies. If and when she is caught in a deliberate lie, her employment should be over.

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Now do all of Trump's press secretaries…

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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He got fired for lying and costing the company $750M and you say that makes him more credible?

Please describe your twisted logic.

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I personally think once his true feelings of hatred for Trump and his sycophants came out, which diverged greatly from the persona he portrayed on TV to cater to the MAGA crowd, his stay was not truly possible. That, together with his general disregard for the truth on TV (including truth that he even held on a personal level), as well as claims of a toxic work environment, created too much future liability paired with weakened credibility.

It will be a hit for Fox News in the short run, but a gain in assets (i.e. reduced loss contingencies) in the long run.

But he was not the main or even a big target of the Dominion case and that certain Fox Business reporter who was the biggest spreader of lies is still there. And he didn't go down fighting for some high principle. Instead the text showed he was just a showman that was not true to his own principles.

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People that like Trump or wanted him for president don't demand obedience from our news anchors. Tucker regularly had Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore, even recently Matt Taibbi on as guests, do you believe those are pro-Trumpers? lol. We pretty much just demanded an anti-war stance, or at least not cheering it on. I couldn't stand the other programs and anchors at Fox.

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But his texts and his concurrent coverage of the election lies (even if not focused on Dominion) contradict. He was just a showman. And Shep Smith and Chris Wallace were basically driven away from Fox News for not bending the knee to Trump and his lies. I think you are a bit off here.

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I disagree with Tucker. I believe there was significant fraud in the last election. I also believe Dominion is shady af. You know who else believed that...democrats.





Sure seems political doesn't it.

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I don't doubt you truly believe it. I don't think there has been any credible evidence for mass fraud, but small instances of fraud, including from Republicans.

Having said that, going back to topic at hand, Tucker did not believe it based on his texts, but he still presented as if it were credible.

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That's his job dude. What do you think all the other morons on cable tv do.

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So he was just a talking head that lies. What is his value? Just perpetuate a lie for money? Good riddance, I'm sure you would agree, unless you like being treated like a child who is just fed mind candy because you want candy even if it will destroy your brain.

I think we can demand more from those who present themselves as presenter of what is happening out there in the world other than lies catering to our biases.

Maybe I am hoping for too much.

And I don't believe his official job description was to tell lies, so I disagree that was his job.

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What do you think the white house press secretary does? Should she lose her job too? lol

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Her job is not to tell lies. If and when she is caught in a deliberate lie, her employment should be over.

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That picture was a weak retort.

If you have evidence similar to the evidence for Tucker that she personally believed something to be false but still presented as the truth, share it. I will share your outrage. The only person whose personal beliefs betrayed the lie told was Trump's first press secretary about attendance. Even if I disagreed with all of Trump's other press secretaries, I believe they were telling what they believed to be the truth. Same with Biden's press secretaries.

Even if I disagree with how you are interpreting the facts, it does not mean I think you are lying. If, however, you are telling your true views one way to your colleagues and then telling the rest of the world the opposite as your belief, then you are lying.

An elementary picture response is a sign that you don't really have the data to back your claim.

Honest question for Faux News addicted conservatives:

How will you know what the next fake outrage is if Tucker isn't around to tell you what you should be outraged about and/or afraid of?

MinotStateBeav said:

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Instantly gives Tucker more credibility. Not that I actually watched Fox, normally I just watch clips of Tucker on Bit//chute, but that's going to be a huge audience loss for Fox.

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Yeah, Bill O'Reilly ended up on NewsNation (along with Chris Cuomo). And now NewsNation is a big-time cable news network.

Look, I think it is reasonable for a news anchor to report the news as they understand it and yet sometimes be skeptical about it. Their job is to report the facts and not let their personal opinions cloud that.

However, that's not what Tucker Carlson was doing. He was knowingly spreading lies and false information for ratings. It is part of why Fox News had to pay a giant settlement.

Hopefully you can see the difference between being skeptical of a story being reported and knowing it to be false yet reporting it anyway.

AunBear89 said:

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Honest question for Faux News addicted conservatives:

How will you know what the next fake outrage is if Tucker isn't around to tell you what you should be outraged about and/or afraid of?

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They wont.
Because they are individuals with a very low IQ.

Is anyone really surprised to see an amateur sh(tposter with few if any deeply held beliefs defending a professional sh(tposter with few if any deeply held beliefs?

I think the timing of this announcement had more to do with the current Fox News carriage negotiations than the settlement. Fox gets the vast majority of its revenue from people who don't watch Fox News. Their ad business has taken a massive beating and if they fail to force all cable customers to pay the Fox News tax it would be terrible for their business. That matters to them far more than anything else.

2/ As the trial is happening, Fox News will be renegotiating or gearing up to renegotiate carriage renewal with 3 cable providers -- Xfinity, Chater and Cox.

It's hard to overstate how significant this and how potentially consequential this is for Fox News' future. Here's why...

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

4/ How we got to this point is a story for another day. But here's a thread about this if you're really curious how they got so high. Point is, these carriage fees are really important for Fox News' bottom.https://t.co/DsoQlnnaoJ

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

6/Here's the thing: Fox doesn't just need to renew at the current rate. Oh no. The Murdochs have been promising to extract big increases from cable companies in order to offset ad loses and massively increase profits.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

8/ There are about 90 million cable customers in this country. There are about 3 million regular Fox News viewers. Fox is not only forcing everyone with cable to overpay, but now they will try to pick Americans' pockets even more.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

10/ If Fox meets resistance and the cable companies don't roll over and force everyone to overpay in order to subsidize Fox News (as they have been doing all these years), then Fox News quite literally can't continue it's current course. It would need to change.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

12/ Your participation matters. This exact approach worked with One America News. Enough cable customers contacted DirecTV and Verizon and urged those providers to stop overpaying for OAN. Eventually this resulted in them dropping the channel entirely.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023

14/ And what happened? The company held firm. No increase for Fox. Off that one deal alone, Fox likely lost anywhere from $150-250M in guaranteed revenue they were hoping to get.

Point is: This approach has worked and will work here.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 14, 2023