Turns out a nationwide SF crime story wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

A disturbing crime wave hit San Francisco this week.

Tech leader Bob Lee was stabbed to death, cyclist Ethan Boyes was killed by a speeding car, and former fire commissioner Don Carmignani was brutally beaten by homeless addicts.

If this isn't a wake-up call, what will be?

— Michelle Tandler (@michelletandler) April 7, 2023

Exclusive: This video shows a man using possible bear spray against a homeless person in November 2021—one of a number of such incidents in SF's Marina District since then. The man is believed to be ex-fire commissioner Don Carmignani, @sfdefender alleges https://t.co/nxj9ANKz9W pic.twitter.com/kJXnV74qik

— Michael Barba (@mdbarba) April 26, 2023

Former #SF fire commissioner attacked with metal pipe is now being accused of "eight acts of violence perpetuated against people who are homeless" using bear spray. Public defender said beating was simply "self-defense" by unhoused resident. Details on @KTVU "The Four" pic.twitter.com/4u5RFni7IC

— Brooks Jarosz (@BrooksKTVU) April 26, 2023

Deleted. Period. End of line.

BearHunter said:

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And here he is following the script:
pic.twitter.com/OP80FTUf2F

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 26, 2023

It happened again.

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It like happens with all presidents. Yes, even Trump. Lol at trying to scandalize something that is pretty standard.

Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

End of quote.

BearHunter said:

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It happened again.

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Did you really to go CAL?

BearHunter said:

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And here he is following the script:
pic.twitter.com/OP80FTUf2F

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 26, 2023

It happened again.

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Welcome back, Barefarce!

dimitrig said:

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Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

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Not like this. you don't have to have a Cal degree to realize that this level of nannying is a sign of dementia.

Biden accidentally showed "salvet" with instructions on what to do in a meeting with the South Korean president
"Enter the Roosevelt Room and greet the participants", "Sit in YOUR seat" , are just some of the written instructions that the American president received on a piece… pic.twitter.com/dwwBjLHhM0

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) April 27, 2023

"YOU turn note around"

— Amde (@AmdeBrahan) April 27, 2023

Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

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Not like this. you don't have to have a Cal degree to realize that this level of nannying is a sign of dementia.

Biden accidentally showed "salvet" with instructions on what to do in a meeting with the South Korean president
"Enter the Roosevelt Room and greet the participants", "Sit in YOUR seat" , are just some of the written instructions that the American president received on a piece… pic.twitter.com/dwwBjLHhM0

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) April 27, 2023

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Is there anything more on brand than Putin88 referencing an obvious Russian troll to attack our president? Oh but it's a blue check russian troll!

The difference between Trump's note cards and Biden's are that one has a competent administration which gave him an agenda and the other used a sharpie to support his lies.

HA! Your hero did the exact same thinghttps://t.co/Ky2pk2TWg1

— Ellie Sturm (@Elliearoundtown) April 26, 2023

As he speaks to the media on the White House lawn, reporters photograph Trump's note pad, which shows "I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo" scribbled with his signature Sharpie #ImpeachmentHearings pic.twitter.com/3y40rcSigu

— Bloomberg Quicktake (@Quicktake) November 20, 2019

Just more liars, hypocrites, and morons.

Sure, because there is absolutely no difference between notes with political content, and notes saying "Sit in YOUR seat", nooo difference whatsoever.

Cal88 said:

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Sure, because there is absolutely no difference between notes with political content, and notes saying "Sit in YOUR seat", nooo difference whatsoever.

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There is a difference. One is part of an appropriate protocol - I commonly see notes like this in corporate events - and the other is a reminder if which talking point lies he needs to stick to. Right now the few adults from the Trump administration are probably commiserating over the fact that Trump refused to observe protocol or take any direction on how to handle events professionally. If he were capable of doing so and took his job seriously, there would probably be pictures of those notes, instead of just his dumb handwritten notes to remind him to reinforce his lies.

Do you think the adults in Trump's administration would have written on a note card that he should throw paper towels at hurricane victims? Or any other number of unseemly acts which are beneath the office which he held?

The alternative to providing Biden with professional notes to ensure a smooth execution on protocol would be to have a minder in the room directing him at every step - which you also commonly see with other events. Either one would subject him to criticism and using cards is a perfectly reasonable approach.

I don't put much stock in criticism from the Russian government, laundered through a fake Twitter blue check, but I understand that you have an agenda to push which just happens to align perfectly with Putin's wishes.

Quelle surprise.

Back in the day, it used to be the Soviets who had the decrepit supreme leaders...

Two minutes of Sleepy Joe observing "appropriate protocol"

COMPILATION: Is Biden Ever NOT Getting Lost? https://t.co/o7msvUghSs

— Slk55again (@slk55again) October 12, 2022

Joe going off-script on Jill's finger

I recall that Obama had on paper the people he was calling on. He'd look down and read the name. They responded with their question as if they knew they were about to be called on.

I recall thinking that was odd and recall learning that they did it that way so as to properly rotate and not let any bias enter into the spur of the moment eenie meanie minie moe selection.

Please do me a favor and submit a question to a White House correspondent and see if this is the commonly understood and accepted protocol.

I look forward to your report back to us.
In the meantime, I'm rejecting your post.

concordtom said:

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I recall that Obama had on paper the people he was calling on. He'd look down and read the name. They responded with their question as if they knew they were about to be called on.

I recall thinking that was odd and recall learning that they did it that way so as to properly rotate and not let any bias enter into the spur of the moment eenie meanie minie moe selection.

Please do me a favor and submit a question to a White House correspondent and see if this is the commonly understood and accepted protocol.

I look forward to your report back to us.
In the meantime, I'm rejecting your post.

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I wonder if anyone here has ever found a Presidential press conference to be informative? I think they are a waste of time.

Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

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Not like this. you don't have to have a Cal degree to realize that this level of nannying is a sign of dementia.

Biden accidentally showed "salvet" with instructions on what to do in a meeting with the South Korean president
"Enter the Roosevelt Room and greet the participants", "Sit in YOUR seat" , are just some of the written instructions that the American president received on a piece… pic.twitter.com/dwwBjLHhM0

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) April 27, 2023

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Clearly, you've never been an executive.
Executives manage so much stuff, they often have assistants to tackle a wide variety of lesser things so they don't have to worry about it and mental energy can be devoted to more important stuff, like the negotiating price of the deal being discussed, or the phraseology of a threat of war which is not actually a threat of war.

Assistant level work:
* daily schedule,
* flight, hotel, car,
* meal menu at events
* who to call on at press conferences

Please, feel free to respond, reasonably.

PS: a good executive will have a good group of assistants and advisors to help them through their day. At one moment they might be on a call designed to build a close relationship with someone, and lighthearted laughter might be appropriate, but then they immediately have to switch mood and tone. Cue cards may help the executive accomplish the task.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
I'm 54, not over the hill, and wish I had assistants to help me be more effective each day. I instead find myself shopping for airline reservations and picking the right reservation. Waste of time!

dajo9 said:

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concordtom said:

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I recall that Obama had on paper the people he was calling on. He'd look down and read the name. They responded with their question as if they knew they were about to be called on.

I recall thinking that was odd and recall learning that they did it that way so as to properly rotate and not let any bias enter into the spur of the moment eenie meanie minie moe selection.

Please do me a favor and submit a question to a White House correspondent and see if this is the commonly understood and accepted protocol.

I look forward to your report back to us.
In the meantime, I'm rejecting your post.

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I wonder if anyone here has ever found a Presidential press conference to be informative? I think they are a waste of time.

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I think it's very important that the President get out in front of cameras regularly and present on a wide variety of topics to the citizenry. Part of the job description! Otherwise, they can hide and confidence declines.

concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

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Not like this. you don't have to have a Cal degree to realize that this level of nannying is a sign of dementia.

Biden accidentally showed "salvet" with instructions on what to do in a meeting with the South Korean president
"Enter the Roosevelt Room and greet the participants", "Sit in YOUR seat" , are just some of the written instructions that the American president received on a piece… pic.twitter.com/dwwBjLHhM0

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) April 27, 2023

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Clearly, you've never been an executive.
Executives manage so much stuff, they often have assistants to tackle a wide variety of lesser things so they don't have to worry about it and mental energy can be devoted to more important stuff, like the negotiating price of the deal being discussed, or the phraseology of a threat of war which is not actually a threat of war.

Assistant level work:
* daily schedule,
* flight, hotel, car,
* meal menu at events
* who to call on at press conferences

Please, feel free to respond, reasonably.

PS: a good executive will have a good group of assistants and advisors to help them through their day. At one moment they might be on a call designed to build a close relationship with someone, and lighthearted laughter might be appropriate, but then they immediately have to switch mood and tone. Cue cards may help the executive accomplish the task.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
I'm 54, not over the hill, and wish I had assistants to help me be more effective each day. I instead find myself shopping for airline reservations and picking the right reservation. Waste of time!

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Two anecdotes:

1. I know a CEO of a Fortune 500 and while he has assistants at work at home all he has is a personal assistant for a couple of hours per week to do things like check mail and pay bills as they come in. He does everything else himself. I am not sure how common that is but I would have expected more staff to help in his daily life.

2. I have read about "regular" people who hire assistants out of their own pockets to help them do their jobs. For example, a mid-level executive who hired someone to jazz up her PowerPoint presentations. In my line of work I could not do that, but I am surprised more people don't do it. If you're a software engineer maybe you can hire a guy in India to help you write some of your code, for example.

You don't need assistants to keep you from getting lost in your own backyard and tell you which way to get inside your house or workplace.

Biden has been in the White House for 10 years, and he still gets lost in the garden bushes. There is one episode in that short compilation above where he kept going into the garden, and another such episode here:



There's executive assistants, and there's assisted living, it's pretty easy to see the difference, as long as you don't have political blinders...

dimitrig said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Trump never held press conferences, so you are right it would never happen.

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Not like this. you don't have to have a Cal degree to realize that this level of nannying is a sign of dementia.

Biden accidentally showed "salvet" with instructions on what to do in a meeting with the South Korean president
"Enter the Roosevelt Room and greet the participants", "Sit in YOUR seat" , are just some of the written instructions that the American president received on a piece… pic.twitter.com/dwwBjLHhM0

— Spriter (@Spriter99880) April 27, 2023

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Clearly, you've never been an executive.
Executives manage so much stuff, they often have assistants to tackle a wide variety of lesser things so they don't have to worry about it and mental energy can be devoted to more important stuff, like the negotiating price of the deal being discussed, or the phraseology of a threat of war which is not actually a threat of war.

Assistant level work:
* daily schedule,
* flight, hotel, car,
* meal menu at events
* who to call on at press conferences

Please, feel free to respond, reasonably.

PS: a good executive will have a good group of assistants and advisors to help them through their day. At one moment they might be on a call designed to build a close relationship with someone, and lighthearted laughter might be appropriate, but then they immediately have to switch mood and tone. Cue cards may help the executive accomplish the task.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
I'm 54, not over the hill, and wish I had assistants to help me be more effective each day. I instead find myself shopping for airline reservations and picking the right reservation. Waste of time!

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Two anecdotes:

1. I know a CEO of a Fortune 500 and while he has assistants at work at home all he has is a personal assistant for a couple of hours per week to do things like check mail and pay bills as they come in. He does everything else himself. I am not sure how common that is but I would have expected more staff to help in his daily life.

2. I have read about "regular" people who hire assistants out of own pockets to help them do their jobs. For example, a mid-level executive who hired someone to jazz up her PowerPoint presentations. In my line of work I could not do that, but I am surprised more people don't do it. If you're a software engineer maybe you can hire a guy in India to help you write some of your code, for example.

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My dad started using people for this very young in life. I was 10 and he had his secretary in SF get his lunch and deal with laundered shirts. I thought it wrong. He thought it made him more effective at his job not worrying about such things.

Of course, he graduated beyond just that. He's often had 1 or 2 key assistants in life. He makes no apologies for putting off tasks on others that I would never have the balls to ask them to do.

I think you make a great point.

And I think it's up to the individual and their assistant(s) to find that appropriate groove of working together.

To find that people here call him senile because he carries a queue card for his many engagements is pretty stupid.

Find what works for YOU!

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You don't need assistants to keep you from getting lost in your own backyard and tell you which way to get inside your house or workplace.

Biden has been in the White House for 10 years, and he still gets lost in the garden bushes. There is one episode in that short compilation above where he kept going into the garden, and another such episode here:



There's executive assistants, and there's assisted living, it's pretty easy to see the difference, as long as you don't have political blinders...

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That's not a fair conclusion to arrive to based on the video. And your second image reveals your bias.

You seem to be brainwashed in your narrative. So, go ahead and run with it.

"It's OUTRAGEOUS that Biden's completely senile!"

VS

"And we're going to march up to the Capitol - and I'll be with you!…"

Perhaps you also want Trump in jail for his dastardly deeds. If so, I'll understand your dissatisfaction with Biden.

But in my experience on this board, those who attack relatively minor things about Biden are the very same who believed in election fraud, that the impeachments were unfounded, that the Mueller Report declared Trump innocent, etc etc etc. therefore, I really can't have any reasonable discussion with you.

So go ahead, attack away.
Have fun.

Here, I'll even help you get started.

Unit2Sucks said:

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Is there anything more on brand than Putin88 referencing an obvious Russian troll to attack our president? Oh but it's a blue check russian troll!

The difference between Trump's note cards and Biden's are that one has a competent administration which gave him an agenda and the other used a sharpie to support his lies.

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Yup.
Trolls gonna troll.
That's what they do.

And the funniest part of it is . . . is that they actually think that they move the "needle" on an obscure message board on the Internet. I can only begin to imagine ALL of the OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS that they post on.

Cults dont end very well.
They really dont.

I know.
I was a senior in high school when this happened.
And Jackie Speier was there with her mentor, House of Representative Leo Ryan of Cali's 11th Congressional District.

^One of the main characteristics of cults is that cult members don't know they're in a cult.

Interesting tidbit about this particular cult:

How San Francisco's Democrats made Jim Jones, and then made his memory vanish
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/how-san-franciscos-democrats-made-jim-jones-and-then-made-his-memory-vanish

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Do you remember that time the entire Democratic Party in California behaved like cultists, enraptured by Peoples Temple leader Jim Jones?

If you lived through the bizarre suicides of 918 people in Guyana on Nov. 18, 1978, it's hard not to remember where you were when you heard the news. It would be like forgetting about the Challenger explosion or Sept. 11.

But collective amnesia over just who aided and abetted Jim Jones is much easier to explain. The same influence used on Jones's behalf during his life helped after his death to erase the causes and candidates he supported.

"Such greatness I have found in Jim Jones's Peoples Temple," Harvey Milk gushed. Yes, that Harvey Milk.

Willie Brown, later speaker of the California assembly and mayor of San Francisco, compared Jim Jones to Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi. Dianne Feinstein joined the rest of the San Francisco board of supervisors in honoring Jones "in recognition of his guidance and inspiration" in furthering "humanitarian programs."

Jerry Brown, California governor then as now, actually spoke at Peoples Temple. George Moscone, who owed his position as mayor of San Francisco to Jones, appointed Jones to San Francisco's Housing Authority Commission, where he quickly became chairman.

Left-wing lawyers Charles Garry and Mark Lane depicted Jonestown as a paradise and aggressively defended Jones in the media. Jane Fonda joined other luminaries in expressing that she was "familiar with the work of Reverend Jones and Peoples Temple and have no hesitancy in commending them for their example in setting a high standard of ethics and morality."

Herb Caen, a Pulitzer Prize winner who long served as one of San Francisco's most admired newspaper writers, acted as a hype-generator for Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple.

The local enthusiasm for Jim Jones proved contagious for national Democrats. Rosalynn Carter called Jones at her husband's behest. She held a private meeting with him, put him in touch with sister-in-law Ruth Carter Stapleton, and had the Peoples Temple leader introduce her at a 1976 campaign event.
Jimmy Carter's running mate, Walter Mondale, met with Jones on the tarmac in San Francisco.

Before Jim Jones's victims drank the lethal Flavor Aid in South America, the powerful in San Francisco had already drunk the Kool Aid themselves. In fact, the latter facilitated the former.

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This having degenerated into yet another partisan argument, I will just say that Trump has many flaws, like the old Queens blowhard that he is, but he's not quite senile.

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^One of the main characteristics of cults is that cult members don't know they're in a cult.

That was a particularly bad example there, in your usual partisan spat:

How San Francisco's Democrats made Jim Jones, and then made his memory vanish
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/how-san-franciscos-democrats-made-jim-jones-and-then-made-his-memory-vanish

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Do you remember that time the entire Democratic Party in California behaved like cultists, enraptured by Peoples Temple leader Jim Jones?

If you lived through the bizarre suicides of 918 people in Guyana on Nov. 18, 1978, it's hard not to remember where you were when you heard the news. It would be like forgetting about the Challenger explosion or Sept. 11.

But collective amnesia over just who aided and abetted Jim Jones is much easier to explain. The same influence used on Jones's behalf during his life helped after his death to erase the causes and candidates he supported.

"Such greatness I have found in Jim Jones's Peoples Temple," Harvey Milk gushed. Yes, that Harvey Milk.

Willie Brown, later speaker of the California assembly and mayor of San Francisco, compared Jim Jones to Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi. Dianne Feinstein joined the rest of the San Francisco board of supervisors in honoring Jones "in recognition of his guidance and inspiration" in furthering "humanitarian programs."

Jerry Brown, California governor then as now, actually spoke at Peoples Temple. George Moscone, who owed his position as mayor of San Francisco to Jones, appointed Jones to San Francisco's Housing Authority Commission, where he quickly became chairman.

Left-wing lawyers Charles Garry and Mark Lane depicted Jonestown as a paradise and aggressively defended Jones in the media. Jane Fonda joined other luminaries in expressing that she was "familiar with the work of Reverend Jones and Peoples Temple and have no hesitancy in commending them for their example in setting a high standard of ethics and morality."

Herb Caen, a Pulitzer Prize winner who long served as one of San Francisco's most admired newspaper writers, acted as a hype-generator for Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple.

The local enthusiasm for Jim Jones proved contagious for national Democrats. Rosalynn Carter called Jones at her husband's behest. She held a private meeting with him, put him in touch with sister-in-law Ruth Carter Stapleton, and had the Peoples Temple leader introduce her at a 1976 campaign event.
Jimmy Carter's running mate, Walter Mondale, met with Jones on the tarmac in San Francisco.

Before Jim Jones's victims drank the lethal Flavor Aid in South America, the powerful in San Francisco had already drunk the Kool Aid themselves. In fact, the latter facilitated the former.

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Look, Trump has many flaws, like the Queens blowhard that he is, but he's not senile.

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Interesting how some are trying so hard to distract/deflect from the OP point.

Why ?

okaydo said:

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It like happens with all presidents. Yes, even Trump. Lol at trying to scandalize something that is pretty standard.

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FLASHBACK: Last Month on The Benny Show, @simonateba revealed that The White House demands reporters send briefing questions in advance:

“When you do your job… and ask the tough questions and you don't send your questions in advance... they sideline you”pic.twitter.com/9NF3jKjpUi

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 27, 2023

No, just Biden.

BearHunter said:

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okaydo said:

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It like happens with all presidents. Yes, even Trump. Lol at trying to scandalize something that is pretty standard.

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FLASHBACK: Last Month on The Benny Show, @simonateba revealed that The White House demands reporters send briefing questions in advance:

“When you do your job… and ask the tough questions and you don't send your questions in advance... they sideline you”pic.twitter.com/9NF3jKjpUi

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 27, 2023

No, just Biden.

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It says a lot about you that you keep citing a guy who is famous fo r making sh*t up.

You don't have to be so gullible.

going4roses said:

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Interesting how some are trying so hard to distract/deflect from the OP point.

Why ?

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What the hell happened to this thread?

okaydo said:

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BearHunter said:

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okaydo said:

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It like happens with all presidents. Yes, even Trump. Lol at trying to scandalize something that is pretty standard.

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FLASHBACK: Last Month on The Benny Show, @simonateba revealed that The White House demands reporters send briefing questions in advance:

“When you do your job… and ask the tough questions and you don't send your questions in advance... they sideline you”pic.twitter.com/9NF3jKjpUi

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 27, 2023

No, just Biden.

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It says a lot about you that you keep citing a guy who is famous fo r making sh*t up.

You don't have to be so gullible.

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Sometimes you really cant fix stupid.
You just cant.

Fixing stupid is not nearly as challenging as fixing midwits in complete Dunning Kruger mode..

DiabloWags said:

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okaydo said:

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BearHunter said:

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okaydo said:

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It like happens with all presidents. Yes, even Trump. Lol at trying to scandalize something that is pretty standard.

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FLASHBACK: Last Month on The Benny Show, @simonateba revealed that The White House demands reporters send briefing questions in advance:

“When you do your job… and ask the tough questions and you don't send your questions in advance... they sideline you”pic.twitter.com/9NF3jKjpUi

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) April 27, 2023

No, just Biden.

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It says a lot about you that you keep citing a guy who is famous fo r making sh*t up.

You don't have to be so gullible.

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Sometimes you really cant fix stupid.
You just cant.

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BearFarce is back, couldn't stay away after banned. LOL

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going4roses said:

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Interesting how some are trying so hard to distract/deflect from the OP point.

Why ?

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What the hell happened to this thread?

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That's the result of your habit of choosing click-baity titles for your many threads. You chose to call this thread "It happened again", instead of properly labelling it to reflect your subject, the misdeed of a retired SF bureaucrat, a subject which most posters on this thread would have avoided.

So you're stuck with this thread being populated by events that "happened again", like Biden being nannied through his presidency by a network of advisers who have to break down every tiny detail of his daily routine, like the resident of an assisted retirement home.

Biden has had more experience in mastering the minutae of these daily activities by virtue of having been a VP for 8 years, a POTUS for 3 years, and a high-level Senator sitting on many important committes for several decades, yet he still needs a bunch of millennials to tell him when and where to sit, and to provide him with the complete choreography broken down to its most minute elements in handy printed notes. And that is perfectly normal...

Cal88 said:

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okaydo said:

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going4roses said:

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Interesting how some are trying so hard to distract/deflect from the OP point.

Why ?

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What the hell happened to this thread?

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That's the result of your habit of choosing click-baity titles for your many threads. You chose to call this thread "It happened again", instead of properly labelling it to reflect your subject, the misdeed of a retired SF bureaucrat, a subject which most posters on this thread would have avoided.

So you're stuck with this thread being populated by events that "happened again", like Biden being nannied through his presidency by a network of advisers who have to break down every tiny detail of his daily routine, like the resident of an assisted retirement home.

Biden has had more experience in mastering the minutae of these daily activities by virtue of having been a VP for 8 years, a POTUS for 3 years, and a high-level Senator sitting on many important committes for several decades, yet he still needs a bunch of millennials to tell him when and where to sit, and to provide him with the complete choreography broken down to its most minute elements in handy printed notes. And that is perfectly normal...

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I agree. It's perfectly normal.

The right likes to turn things that are pretty normal, like Obama reading a teleprompter, and make then unusual.