Unit2Sucks said:

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Whoops, moved my original post to the other thread.

sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did the propagandists all get the message to start using loaded words like "admitted"?

It's always a whole national group "admitted" because of one minor comment by somebody.

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John Pilger is Australian, so he's not even a good example of the United States "admitting" anything.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger

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Read his wiki after you posted. Anyone surprised to hear that he is just another fascist sympathizer who has made appearances on Russian state media?

Just more bad faith by whomever cited him originally.

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I'm embarrassed on your behalf for citing Wikipedia to smear a journalist because you couldn't debate his points. Bad faith indeed.

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dimitrig said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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Let's see who on this forum can accurately explain what's wrong with Kevin McCarthy's second sentence here.

President Biden wants to spend MORE money than the federal government did at the height of the pandemic.

American taxpayers just cannot afford to keep borrowing money from China. pic.twitter.com/yBNCLaSUmG

— Kevin McCarthy (@SpeakerMcCarthy) May 22, 2023

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Since nobody took me up on my offer and since the debt ceiling standoff ended exactly the way every other one did (despite the Chicken Little narrative), this is the problem with the national debt discussion.

The United States doesn't borrow money from anyone in the sense of how regular people view lending because they don't have to. They own the printing press. They essentially create their own "credit card" out of thin air in the form of government bonds and other securities. When the bonds and securities purchased by the Chinese come due, the United States credits their reserve account and then China decides what they want to do with that money (they could buy more securities or spend it somewhere else).

The notion that the United States is indebted to any nation is poppycock. Federal government checks don't bounce and never will, which is why Social Security will never be insolvent and why national health care is the best solution to that perpetual problem.

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You might still get your Social Security payments but after the devaluation of the dollar they might just buy you a roll of toilet paper or two.

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It's incompatible to be both pro-Ukrainian war and anti-inflation.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-causes-inflation/22616

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Except it wasn't the US government who started the war.

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What the Western media admitted 9 years ago about Ukraine, it denies today. pic.twitter.com/NpG9tutiMZ

— sarah (@sahouraxo) May 23, 2023

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What position did John Pilger hold within the US government and how many troops did he send in to Ukraine?

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What position did Rachel Maddow hold within the Trump Administration and how many contacts did she have with Russian government officials?

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Who cares? What does this have to do with the war in Ukraine?

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I figured as long as you were smearing a journalist for their opinion, I'd join in on the fun. However, it would have saved a lot of time if you just admitted you couldn't counter the argument that the U.S. did everything they could to make this war happened and moved on.

The irony of your smear is that there is far more factual support for John Pilger's reporting than Rachel Maddow's reporting.

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Pretty sure I didn't "smear" John Pilger, just pointed out that he is not American and never held any position in US government, and so is not an example of the US "admitting" anything. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you were unable to follow the line of argument and just went to partisan tit-for-tat.

sycasey said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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sycasey said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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sycasey said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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sycasey said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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dimitrig said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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Let's see who on this forum can accurately explain what's wrong with Kevin McCarthy's second sentence here.

President Biden wants to spend MORE money than the federal government did at the height of the pandemic.

American taxpayers just cannot afford to keep borrowing money from China. pic.twitter.com/yBNCLaSUmG

— Kevin McCarthy (@SpeakerMcCarthy) May 22, 2023

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Since nobody took me up on my offer and since the debt ceiling standoff ended exactly the way every other one did (despite the Chicken Little narrative), this is the problem with the national debt discussion.

The United States doesn't borrow money from anyone in the sense of how regular people view lending because they don't have to. They own the printing press. They essentially create their own "credit card" out of thin air in the form of government bonds and other securities. When the bonds and securities purchased by the Chinese come due, the United States credits their reserve account and then China decides what they want to do with that money (they could buy more securities or spend it somewhere else).

The notion that the United States is indebted to any nation is poppycock. Federal government checks don't bounce and never will, which is why Social Security will never be insolvent and why national health care is the best solution to that perpetual problem.

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You might still get your Social Security payments but after the devaluation of the dollar they might just buy you a roll of toilet paper or two.

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It's incompatible to be both pro-Ukrainian war and anti-inflation.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/war-causes-inflation/22616

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Except it wasn't the US government who started the war.

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What the Western media admitted 9 years ago about Ukraine, it denies today. pic.twitter.com/NpG9tutiMZ

— sarah (@sahouraxo) May 23, 2023

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What position did John Pilger hold within the US government and how many troops did he send in to Ukraine?

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What position did Rachel Maddow hold within the Trump Administration and how many contacts did she have with Russian government officials?

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Who cares? What does this have to do with the war in Ukraine?

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I figured as long as you were smearing a journalist for their opinion, I'd join in on the fun. However, it would have saved a lot of time if you just admitted you couldn't counter the argument that the U.S. did everything they could to make this war happened and moved on.

The irony of your smear is that there is far more factual support for John Pilger's reporting than Rachel Maddow's reporting.

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Pretty sure I didn't "smear" John Pilger, just pointed out that he is not American and never held any position in US government, and so is not an example of the US "admitting" anything. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you were unable to follow the line of argument and just went to partisan tit-for-tat.

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Eastern media admits. . .

dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did the propagandists all get the message to start using loaded words like "admitted"?

It's always a whole national group "admitted" because of one minor comment by somebody.

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John Pilger is Australian, so he's not even a good example of the United States "admitting" anything.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger

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So, not Western media either?

Wow, this little bit of propaganda is failing as bad as a Russian war of aggression

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Interesting article by Jeffrey Sachs...... https://t.co/vqcAWIDmkF

— Richard (@ricwe123) May 27, 2023

Steve Bannon: “Hakeem Jeffries …is the man. Kevin McCarthy’s his bitch.” pic.twitter.com/LsfwFHstoW

— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) June 2, 2023

“You don’t have to hold Biden accountable. You can’t. You just approved it. So, u r not going to hold him accountable. Anybody that tells u that is lying to u. So, we have to hold the ppl we can hold accountable & that’s the ppl that u gave your time, effort & $ to & betrayed u.”… https://t.co/9A5k0HDk86 pic.twitter.com/45k79gg6t3

— Grace Chong 🇺🇸 (@gc22gc) June 2, 2023

dajo9 said:

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The only thing that will move this country past Trump fascism is a lot more good people than bad people supporting good actions against Trumpism.

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Goldener Bar said:

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dajo9 said:

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The only thing that will move this country past Trump fascism is a lot more good people than bad people supporting good actions against Trumpism.

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Correct.

It looks more like this:

dimitrig said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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dajo9 said:

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The only thing that will move this country past Trump fascism is a lot more good people than bad people supporting good actions against Trumpism.

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Correct.

It looks more like this:

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Democrats Vow To Arrest As Many Political Opponents As It Takes To Defeat Fascism https://t.co/3A2v8QRVcA

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) March 22, 2023

Actually, it looks more like this.

BearHunter said:

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dimitrig said:

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Goldener Bar said:

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dajo9 said:

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The only thing that will move this country past Trump fascism is a lot more good people than bad people supporting good actions against Trumpism.

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Correct.

It looks more like this:

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Democrats Vow To Arrest As Many Political Opponents As It Takes To Defeat Fascism https://t.co/3A2v8QRVcA

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) March 22, 2023

Actually, it looks more like this.

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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

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pic.twitter.com/auhI2Dhxm5

— Not Jerome Powell (@alifarhat79) June 9, 2023

What crime this time?

BearHunter said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

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What crime this time?

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Yes.