oski003 said:

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This incredible individual somehow conquered the chains of chattel slavery and rejected 185+ offers to land at Cornell. Nice job young man.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/05/us/dennis-barnes-college-decision-cornell-university/index.html

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That's rude of you.
Maybe someone will explain you how.

Incredibly insensitive.
You should be ashamed.

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concordtom said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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The conversation about which party historically supported slavery etc... is stupid and unnecessary. We should focus on what the parties have stood for in modern times.

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Hear hear to that!

Here's where it's at for me:

Democrats: liberal (as in "seeking change") because the times are changing ever faster and so "change" is required. Progressive because progress (as in "moving forward") is also a good thing.

Republicans: conservatives (as in NOT seeking change) who want to hold on to how things used to be. They hold onto a believe in religion and social structure for eras long since passed by. Some have become seduced by the MAGA dark side, some are not into MAGA but still cling to their personal identity of "Republican" nonetheless - as a label they are comfortable with. And some might actually favor Democrats policy positions but have been so brainwashed by the label that they can't even see the issue on its own merits.

Who else wants a turn?

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Modern times is the last 25 years.

What progressives consider progress isn't necessarily progress. Society has gone soft. People don't know the meaning of hardwork, and everybody thinks they deserve nice cars, smartphones, and 50" flat screens even if they don't work. The police are underfunded and will not chase criminals for fear of doing something wrong and facing discipline, liability, and public scorn. Property crimes aren't reported because they are hardly prosecuted. This isn't progress. I will not park my car outside for fear of catalytic converter theft.

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Respectfully, our perspectives may be different because of age, too. I'm 55. Things have changed A Ton in my lifetime!!
I suspect you are decades younger than me.

But if you wanted to limit it to the last 25 years?

Obama, 1st black President.
Tiger woods, billionaire.
Lebron and Steph made $100M this year in salary and endorsements.
Cellphones have shown Americans the violence directed at blacks by cops. Back then, he only had 1 grainy Rodney King video. This new awareness is spawning massive changes for the better.
Car theft has always been a thing. Catalytic converter cages are the new Club.

Sure, I can't say EVERYTHING is better. But I'm watching nba pregame talk show and 3 of the 4 talking heads are black. That's another sign. Oh, here's a 4th, it's Mark Jones, with Doris Burke, a woman.

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That's great. I never complained about Lebron making money or Obama being president. Theft where I live is way more rampant than it used to be because thieves are put back on the streets immediately. There is very little deterrence, and police are understaffed and unsupported in fighting property crimes. The pervasive attitude has gone towards favoring the property crimes criminal over the victim, often viewing the victim as someone who has taken advantage of people like the criminal and the he criminal needs the money more than the victim does. I took Criminal Justice at Cal, and I read No Equal Justice. I understand that older laws like three strikes were harsh. However, I seriously cannot park my locked, alarmed, empty car on the street. It is insane.

Of note, I was on a very crowded Metro the other day coming home from a soccer game, and a giant black guy was sitting on the handicap bench and yelled at anyone within 4 feet of him that they were homosexual fa*****s and he would kill them if they came near him. If anyone made near eye contact, he would lay into them. It was scary. It was mental illness. It was not racial. I was three benches away, facing him, and held my toddler son while my wife did the same to our daughter. Very difficult to explain what was happening. He threatened everyone near him loudly, aggressively, and angrily for about 20 minutes and locked onto and threatened a lady one bench away that seemed like she was trying to be kind to him. It was awful.

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Hmmm.
I thought I was talking to G4Roses.

Terrible experience on metro.
I'd consider moving if I were you.
Neighborhoods change.

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going4roses said:

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Here in an America …

Tell me how descendants of chattel slavery have power(economically /politically/legally/financially/religion) over white people ?

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Do you not have any power? Do you have less than whites in Alabama? Let's not be enslaved by some theoretical concept. Are you, who have access and time to post here all day, oppressed more than white person hooked on meth in Ohio?

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Are you equating posting on BI is equal to having full autonomy over my person ? Are you effing serious ? Are you that oblivious? You have not walked my path … thus you have absolutely no comprehension. Your privilege has shaped your viewpoint/understanding/thought process so much so that you would be so disrespectful to say that and not have any idea how wrong it is on so many levels.

As I said not on an individual level but on group level. Name tangible power/gains we have over any other group of people

Everything is all Black peoples fault because white is centered in righteousness thus infallible.

white depravity and white privilege reproduced by systematic social constructs intended to make his and too many others they way they are …

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Everything is all Black peoples fault because white is centered in righteousness thus infallible.

white depravity and white privilege reproduced by systematic social constructs intended to make his and too many others they way they are …

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Who said everything was black people's fault? It sounds more like you come on here nearly daily saying saying that

1) cops are bad; and
2) everything is white people's fault because of the social constructs they created and their inherent racism.

Also, the USA is 60% caucasian and 12% black. What are some American minorities that, using your words, have tangible power over other people?

Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

Come through, Ms. Ma’am pic.twitter.com/kotZ8jk80O

— ♍️Virgo♍️ (@Rude95Virgo) May 3, 2023

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going4roses said:

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Here in an America …

Tell me how descendants of chattel slavery have power(economically /politically/legally/financially/religion) over white people ?

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Do you not have any power? Do you have less than whites in Alabama? Let's not be enslaved by some theoretical concept. Are you, who have access and time to post here all day, oppressed more than white person hooked on meth in Ohio?

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Are you equating posting on BI is equal to having full autonomy over my person ? Are you effing serious ? Are you that oblivious? You have not walked my path … thus you have absolutely no comprehension. Your privilege has shaped your viewpoint/understanding/thought process so much so that you would be so disrespectful to say that and not have any idea how wrong it is on so my levels.

As I said not on an individual level but on group level. Name tangible power/gains we have over any other group of people

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You say I did not walk in your shoes and cannot say what your experience was. Then you presume to say what my life was and what my privilege was.

My question was how has the power imbalance hurt your life? Truly wanting to know. All I see without further information on how it has impacted you is that most people don't have means to watch TikTok and post here throughout the day. Who has power over you that you do not otherwise give and who otherwise does not have over me or an Asian person? I don't know what you mean by power so trying to understand how that has impacted you personally.

And if you feel so strongly about this, how has your life translated to making a change?

I am curious and trying to understand.

going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

MinotStateBeav said:

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going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

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"back"?

protect and serve whom?

dajo9 said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

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"back"?

protect and serve whom?

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You're almost there

The psychosis they indulge in is really amazing … winning at everything but the gall to complain when it's those like them/mindset that solely responsible for the results we see day in and day out on EVERY LEVEL OF AMERICAN SOCIETY .

#neverlost

going4roses said:

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The psychosis they indulge in is really amazing … winning at everything but the gall to complain when it's those like them/mindset that solely responsible for the results we see day in and day out on EVERY LEVEL OF AMERICAN SOCIETY .

#neverlost

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Who is they?

How the media works: pic.twitter.com/AU9g6geVnf

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) April 18, 2023

Interracial violent crime statistics 2018

Lies all lies and you know it bearfarce

oski003 said:

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going4roses said:

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The psychosis they indulge in is really amazing … winning at everything but the gall to complain when it's those like them/mindset that solely responsible for the results we see day in and day out on EVERY LEVEL OF AMERICAN SOCIETY .

#neverlost

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Who is they?

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U

dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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going4roses said:

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The psychosis they indulge in is really amazing … winning at everything but the gall to complain when it's those like them/mindset that solely responsible for the results we see day in and day out on EVERY LEVEL OF AMERICAN SOCIETY .

#neverlost

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Who is they?

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MinotStateBeav said:

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going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

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That isn't likely to happen. Sting and Stewart Copeland are in their 70s and Andy Summers is 80.

….and The Clash made them irrelevant.

Breaking: Protesters are now disrupting the subway in NYC for Jordan Neely pic.twitter.com/NSO5UjAs7x

— Rebecca Brannon (@RebsBrannon) May 6, 2023

All hell breaking lose on NYC subway as protesters for Jordan Neely clash with New York City police after disrupting and shutting down rides. pic.twitter.com/c7yJHxujVr

— Rebecca Brannon (@RebsBrannon) May 6, 2023

Leftists gonna leftist

MinotStateBeav said:

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going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

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This cop should not be working as a cop. He’s very sadistic, likes to enjoy torturing citizens. He should be arrested and fired. pic.twitter.com/Brg4O8Rx0S

— Don Salmon (@dijoni) May 7, 2023

What do you see ?

Daniel Penny's lawyers are telling lies, saying:
“Daniel never intended to harm Mr. Neely and could not have foreseen his untimely death.”
The other passengers TOLD HIM, "You're going to kill him!"
He intentionally ignored them. That constitutes intent!https://t.co/po3qqP1qHA

— ProfessorBlackTruth (@ProfBlacktruth) May 6, 2023

going4roses said:

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Daniel Penny's lawyers are telling lies, saying:
“Daniel never intended to harm Mr. Neely and could not have foreseen his untimely death.”
The other passengers TOLD HIM, "You're going to kill him!"
He intentionally ignored them. That constitutes intent!https://t.co/po3qqP1qHA

— ProfessorBlackTruth (@ProfBlacktruth) May 6, 2023

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Every action you take to stop somebody from attacking you or others will have an inherent risk of death. You literally cannot remove risk. The fact there's a video out now of them trying to place the man in the recovery position to me at least shows their intent was not to kill the man.

going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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It was a visible example. There are incredible gains beyond those, and it's so obvious that we need not make a list.

A couple of my favorites are the prosecutors in NY and GA. That's power.

Long way to go. Some Change (bombs, technology) can be swift. Some Change (societal norms) happens more slowly.

MinotStateBeav said:

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going4roses said:

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Athletes and Entertainment are not tangible (power) gains (group level)

Wake me up police stop legally lynching/terrorizing people

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Wake me up when Police go back to protect and serve.

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That's absurd.
Just call 911 and you'll find your answer.

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….and The Clash made them irrelevant.

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Oh, come on.
The Clash suck balls compared to the Police!!!

Lots of interesting issues in this case.
Not just what happened from a legal standpoint on that train but just in terms of society, how we organize ourselves and interact.

MinotStateBeav said:

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Every action you take to stop somebody from attacking you or others will have an inherent risk of death. You literally cannot remove risk. The fact there's a video out now of them trying to place the man in the recovery position to me at least shows their intent was not to kill the man.

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The problem with your narrative is that there are no witnesses observing or claiming that Neely attacked anyone.
Had he attacked someone, I would agree with you.
But he didnt.

DiabloWags said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Every action you take to stop somebody from attacking you or others will have an inherent risk of death. You literally cannot remove risk. The fact there's a video out now of them trying to place the man in the recovery position to me at least shows their intent was not to kill the man.

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The problem with your narrative is that there are no witnesses observing or claiming that Neely attacked anyone.
Had he attacked someone, I would agree with you.
But he didnt.

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I didn't set a narrative. Perhaps seek help.

There are conflicting reports about what happened on the train. The only narrative builder here is you. You were on that train right? sure you were...that's why you can speak with such authority!!

DiabloWags said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Every action you take to stop somebody from attacking you or others will have an inherent risk of death. You literally cannot remove risk. The fact there's a video out now of them trying to place the man in the recovery position to me at least shows their intent was not to kill the man.

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The problem with your narrative is that there are no witnesses observing or claiming that Neely attacked anyone.
Had he attacked someone, I would agree with you.
But he didnt.

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Given recent cases in certain states, apparently you're justified in killing someone if you think they might be planning to attack you. Even at King Chuck's coronation they arrested people for Suspicion of Disturbing The Peace before they had actually done anything.

Hmm

Not threatening anyone just standing there talking...but we already know how they make up lies and pass it off as truth. https://t.co/krfdhXMvXs

— Melanated Mind (@lana_lovehall) May 12, 2023

going4roses said:

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Hmm

Not threatening anyone just standing there talking...but we already know how they make up lies and pass it off as truth. https://t.co/krfdhXMvXs

— Melanated Mind (@lana_lovehall) May 12, 2023

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Obviously inconclusive, but ignorant people sure want to reinforce their biased conclusions! The comments are the yin to Breitbart's yang. So much radicalism.

One side is right one is wrong …. Right ?

going4roses said:

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One side is right one is wrong …. Right ?

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Extremists on both sides are wrong.