Official BearInsider Mass Shooting Thread

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concordtom
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tequila4kapp
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Two points.
1. It is commonly believed there are approximately 20k firearm related laws on the books at local, state and federal levels combined.
2. It is easy to criticize thoughts and prayers. It is hard to state specific proposals that would actually do anything to prevent gun violence. Note that every suggestion above by Bearister either already exists in MN or clearly would not have prevented this latest shooting. It may be impossible to stop people with MH issues that can be hidden who are willing to die and who by guns legally from doing this. The only possible solution - friends/family seeing things and reporting it - have nothing to do with legislation.
Anarchistbear
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The amount of alienation in this culture is off the charts. Couple that with doomsday apocalyptic visions and guns and…boom
calpoly
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oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Sock puppetry is a thing


Leaching on the government's teets is a thing.

Yes, you support the party that great at doing it.
calpoly
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tequila4kapp said:

Two points.
1. It is commonly believed there are approximately 20k firearm related laws on the books at local, state and federal levels combined.
2. It is easy to criticize thoughts and prayers. It is hard to state specific proposals that would actually do anything to prevent gun violence. Note that every suggestion above by Bearister either already exists in MN or clearly would not have prevented this latest shooting. It may be impossible to stop people with MH issues that can be hidden who are willing to die and who by guns legally from doing this. The only possible solution - friends/family seeing things and reporting it - have nothing to do with legislation.

One point. The common theme with all gun violence is guns. If we are not willing to get rid of them nothing will change and we will be stuck with "thoughts and prayers".
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Anarchistbear said:

The amount of alienation in this culture is off the charts. Couple that with doomsday apocalyptic visions and guns and…boom


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Anarchistbear
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You can pretty much trace all these lunatic grievance shooters back to the Columbine kids who made these dark fantasies possible
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calpoly said:

tequila4kapp said:

Two points.
1. It is commonly believed there are approximately 20k firearm related laws on the books at local, state and federal levels combined.
2. It is easy to criticize thoughts and prayers. It is hard to state specific proposals that would actually do anything to prevent gun violence. Note that every suggestion above by Bearister either already exists in MN or clearly would not have prevented this latest shooting. It may be impossible to stop people with MH issues that can be hidden who are willing to die and who by guns legally from doing this. The only possible solution - friends/family seeing things and reporting it - have nothing to do with legislation.

One point. The common theme with all gun violence is guns. If we are not willing to get rid of them nothing will change and we will be stuck with "thoughts and prayers".
Yes, well there's the 2nd amendment so getting rid of guns is off the table.
movielover
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calpoly said:

tequila4kapp said:

Two points.
1. It is commonly believed there are approximately 20k firearm related laws on the books at local, state and federal levels combined.
2. It is easy to criticize thoughts and prayers. It is hard to state specific proposals that would actually do anything to prevent gun violence. Note that every suggestion above by Bearister either already exists in MN or clearly would not have prevented this latest shooting. It may be impossible to stop people with MH issues that can be hidden who are willing to die and who by guns legally from doing this. The only possible solution - friends/family seeing things and reporting it - have nothing to do with legislation.

One point. The common theme with all gun violence is guns. If we are not willing to get rid of them nothing will change and we will be stuck with "thoughts and prayers".


Common themes with violent felons in prison:

- 70% grew up without a Fatger in the home
- 70-80% are functionally illiterate
- high levels of anger (see #1)
- low levels of empathy (ditto)
- likely grew up in an economically fragile home (see #1)
PAC-10-BEAR
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It happened again.
tequila4kapp
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If we are going to open it up beyond mass shootings then let's not forget the Zizians - the trans vegans cult accused of committing 6 murders.
movielover
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Do we blame the Brussel sprouts, or did somebody slip them some carbs? Let me guess, all harmless stoners and some on prescribed drugs.
Cal88
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movielover said:

calpoly said:

tequila4kapp said:

Two points.
1. It is commonly believed there are approximately 20k firearm related laws on the books at local, state and federal levels combined.
2. It is easy to criticize thoughts and prayers. It is hard to state specific proposals that would actually do anything to prevent gun violence. Note that every suggestion above by Bearister either already exists in MN or clearly would not have prevented this latest shooting. It may be impossible to stop people with MH issues that can be hidden who are willing to die and who by guns legally from doing this. The only possible solution - friends/family seeing things and reporting it - have nothing to do with legislation.

One point. The common theme with all gun violence is guns. If we are not willing to get rid of them nothing will change and we will be stuck with "thoughts and prayers".


Common themes with violent felons in prison:

- 70% grew up without a Father in the home
- 70-80% are functionally illiterate
- high levels of anger (see #1)
- low levels of empathy (ditto)
- likely grew up in an economically fragile home (see #1)


This.
Anarchistbear
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Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.
Most individuals who perpetrated mass shootings had a prior criminal record (64.5%) and a history of violence (62.8%), including domestic violence (27.9%). And 28.5% had a military background. Most died on the scene of the public mass shooting, with 38.4% dying by their own hand and 20.3% killed by law enforcement officers.
oski003
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Anarchistbear said:

Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.
Most individuals who perpetrated mass shootings had a prior criminal record (64.5%) and a history of violence (62.8%), including domestic violence (27.9%). And 28.5% had a military background. Most died on the scene of the public mass shooting, with 38.4% dying by their own hand and 20.3% killed by law enforcement officers.


Do men identifying themselves as women count as men in this stat?
tequila4kapp
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Anarchistbear said:

Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.
Most individuals who perpetrated mass shootings had a prior criminal record (64.5%) and a history of violence (62.8%), including domestic violence (27.9%). And 28.5% had a military background. Most died on the scene of the public mass shooting, with 38.4% dying by their own hand and 20.3% killed by law enforcement officers.
The statistics of shootings are hard to deal with. "Mass shooting" has a particular definition and that definition varies by data compiling org. Plus, I think most of us are most concerned with these shootings of complete innocents at schools / churches where the shooter has every intention of dying. EG, see the Wiki list of shooting by year. You see things like gang shootings, drug deals gone bad, workplace revenge situations, family disturbances, etc. IMO while those deaths are tragic they are wholly different from the school/churches shootings, which seemingly have no explanation. Also from Wiki's list, this stuff didn't exist until the 1990s (arguably 1980s) and the frequency of Mass Shootings exploded in the 1990s. I note that iPhones weren't released until 2007; so much for my technology/social media hypothesis.
concordtom
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Anarchistbear said:

Of the 172 individuals who engaged in public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. Ages ranged from 11 to 70, with a mean age of 34.1. Those shooting were 52.3% White, 20.9% Black, 8.1% Latino, 6.4% Asian, 4.2% Middle Eastern, and 1.8% Native American.
Most individuals who perpetrated mass shootings had a prior criminal record (64.5%) and a history of violence (62.8%), including domestic violence (27.9%). And 28.5% had a military background. Most died on the scene of the public mass shooting, with 38.4% dying by their own hand and 20.3% killed by law enforcement officers.


I'd like to read stories of the women who did it.
And it boggles the mind why women vote with the pro gun agenda when there's all these men out there running around with guns.

Lastly, 28% military. Pfft. You see what happens when you teach people guns? They ideate about it.

Good post.
tequila4kapp
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Per Wiki the 1st school shooting was a female. When asked why she said she didn't like Mondays.
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

Per Wiki the 1st school shooting was a female. When asked why she said she didn't like Mondays.


Boomtown rats



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I prefer this track by them.



BTW, I saw them live in the early '80's at The Warfield Theatre. Guess who opened for them?





Chubby Checker!!!

Great show!!
movielover
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@MrAndyNgo

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In more decoded sections of the Minneapolis trans manifesto, the gunman revealed his mother had tried to warn him he would regret transitioning. He resented her for that, even though she later helped him legally transition

Trans Day of Vengeance


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oski003
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chazzed said:




That is only true when stuff like this is included under the definition of mass shooting. It looks like Chicago has mass shootings nearly every day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/post/chicago-shooting-today-4-shot-humboldt-park-drive-2700-block-haddon-avenue-police-say/17700936/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox32chicago.com/news/one-dead-four-injured-chicago-heights-shooting-police-say.amp
tequila4kapp
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chazzed said:


This is incorrect. Definitions of Mass Shootings vary but they appear to commonly involve the number 4. 4 people shot. 4 people injured. 4 people killed. Per Wiki there have been @135 mass shootings in the US since 2018. Per the Rockefeller Institute it is @502 mass shootings since 1966. Per Statistica there have been 124 mass shootings since 2000.

The tweet appears to use numbers from Gun Violence Archive. Here is a screen shot from their website show incidences. Notice most have 0-2 injured or dead. Those can't be "mass shootings"

Further, we have listed as many as 7 instances of Trans shooters. Certain sources are creatively lowering the number. For example, one shooter's attorney announced he identified as Trans. Then he asked to use the He pronoun in court so some sources exclude him.
movielover
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What percentage were on prescription mood meds?

What percentage were on marijuana / other drugs?

What percentage were on two or more?

What percentage lived in a Fatherless home, or were illiterate?
 
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