According to Reuters, Fulton County posted charges to their docket BEFORE the grand jury had even finished
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) August 14, 2023
This means the grand jury has been completely tainted
How can they objectively vote on charges when they've already heard of the decision to charge?
Georgia may indict President Trump today
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) August 14, 2023
Never forget this was the Grand Jury foreperson during these investigations
She told CNN she thought it’d be “cool” to subpoena Trump
This is the type of political persecution you see in banana republics
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Don't worry, they have their disingenuous bad faith talking points already lined up. They don't need to know any substantive details to do so.bearister said:
" Former President Trump on Monday appeared to warn former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan against testifying before the Fulton County grand jury in the state's 2020 election probe.
Driving the news: "I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury," Trump wrote on his Truth Social account on Monday.
"He shouldn't. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia."
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"We've already briefed our surrogates, our allies. We've already teed up conservative media, they've done pre-written pieces ready to pop out," a Trump adviser told CNN.
Unit2Sucks said:
Don't worry, they have their disingenuous bad faith talking points already lined up. They don't need to know any substantive details to do so.
I think the key Republicans leaders in Georgia have already shown that they won't back down from their duty even if threaten by Trump. And they have shown that the voters will not punish them for standing up to Trump.Unit2Sucks said:Don't worry, they have their disingenuous bad faith talking points already lined up. They don't need to know any substantive details to do so.bearister said:
" Former President Trump on Monday appeared to warn former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan against testifying before the Fulton County grand jury in the state's 2020 election probe.
Driving the news: "I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury," Trump wrote on his Truth Social account on Monday.
"He shouldn't. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia."Quote:
"We've already briefed our surrogates, our allies. We've already teed up conservative media, they've done pre-written pieces ready to pop out," a Trump adviser told CNN.
I'm not sure I see a big problem. If the Grand Jury indicts Trump, then we're in the same place we would have been anyway. If they don't indict Trump, then the filing gets withdrawn. Still, I wish they hadn't gotten ahead of themselves. We'll be hearing about this "ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY AND MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE" for years, even though it's a minor procedural issue.BearHunter said:Unit2Sucks said:
Don't worry, they have their disingenuous bad faith talking points already lined up. They don't need to know any substantive details to do so.
bearister said:
"This means the grand jury has been completely tainted."
….and we all know what "taint" is, don't we?
"We're not gonna convict him, let the courts handle it."
— TheManDarren (@TheManDarren) August 15, 2023
"The courts shouldn't decide his fate, let this be decided at the ballot box."
"The ballot box didn't give us a win, so let's do some crimes to try to overturn things."
Rinse, repeat.
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THE TRUMP RICO INDICTMENT
This is how the conspiracy played out according to the indictment:
Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell made false statements at a press conference in Nov 2020 with wild accusations of fraud.
Trump, Mark Meadows, and John McEntee draft a memo for their plan to disrupt and delay counting electoral votes from 6 states on J6. Pence was to refuse to count those states and return the issue to the state legislatures who would the adopt the alternate slate of Trump electors, citing "fraud."
Rudy, Jenna, John Eastman and Atlanta lawyer Ray Smith solicited 14 GA Senators to sign off on their fake electors based on voter fraud.
Rudy and Trump made separate phone calls to the President of the GA Senate claiming voter fraud.
Trump calls Gov Brian Kemp to pressure him to call a Special Session. Kemp refused.
Trump then tweets that Kemp and Lt. Gov Duncan are ignoring fraud and refusing to call a Special Session. This begins a pattern where Trump would lie, GA officials would say he is wrong, then Trump would tweet to his millions of followers that they are being traitors and the public should pressure them to go along with the scheme. This happens over and over.
Powell hires a firm to illegally breach voting machines to collect data to try to show votes were "flipped."
Eastman and GA lawyer Robert Cheeley plan to set up meetings in 6 states where alternate slates of electors would be selected and would sign false certificates for Trump.
Cheeley sends an email to a GA Senator saying Eastman told him a Special Session must be called immediately where the GA legislature would approve the alternate electors on the grounds of fraud.
A "Patriot Call to Action" is tweeted calling on people to pressure GA officials to call a Special Session.
Trump has campaign official Bill White get personal and contact info on the GA Senate President and Majority Leader. White sends the info to Rudy.
Trump then calls the Speaker of the House to demand a Special Session.
Trump then calls the GA AG asking him to investigate false claims of fraud and to join the lawsuit filed by other state AGs in Texas.
Trump and Eastman call Ronna McDaniel to ask her to help them recruit people to serve as fake electors.
Trump attorney Kenneth Chesebro writes a memo to Trump campaign attorney outlining how the fake elector scheme would work.
Documents were then sent out to the state GOP Chairs for the 6 contested states for the fake electors to sign.
Rudy then testifies to the GA House the following fabricated things: Video showed election workers stealing votes, Ruby Freeman was using USB ports to flip votes, 96,000 fraudulent mail-in ballots were counted. This was all made up.
Rudy calls WI GOP official to tell him to keep the fake elector scheme secret.
Chesebro sends email to Rudy with multiple different plans to disrupt or delay counting the electoral votes on J6.
Rudy sends email telling everyone in each state to keep the fake elector meetings secret.
Trump tweets out, "Demand this clown call a special session now!" referring to Kemp.
Fake electors in 6 states meet and sign the false certificates under oath that they were "the duly elected and qualified electors" for their states.
Illinois pastor Stephen Lee is recruited to drive to Ruby Freeman's house in an attempt to coerce her into falsely confessing to fraud.
When Freeman refused to speak to Lee, he asked Harrison Floyd with Black Voices for Trump to help him. He said he thought Freeman wouldn't speak to him because he was white.
Rudy and Powell meet with Trump at the WH to discuss strategy, which included seizing voting machines and appointing Powell as Special Counsel to investigate fraud.
Powell hires a firm to hack and copy voting data from Dominion machines.
Meadows flies to GA and attempts to observe an audit of signature-verification ballots by investigators. He is denied entry because it isn't a public meeting.
Trump then calls the Chief Investigator, tells him that he won, and pressures him to find fraud: "When the right answer comes out, you'll be praised."
Eastman then sends email to Chesbro saying that the best plan was to get Pence (or Grassley if Pence was absent for some reason) to "act boldly and be challenged," because that would cause a delay that could throw things back to state legislatures.
Meadows then offers to pay the Chief Investigator out of Trump campaign funds if he will speed up the audit.
Trump then asks AG Jeffrey Rosen and Dep. AG Richard Donoghue to "just say the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and GOP congressmen." They refuse.
Jeff Clark writes up a document falsely claiming that DOJ "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome" of the election. Clark then asks Rosen and Donoghue to sign it so he can send it to Kemp. They refuse.
Trump then tweets that Kemp should resign.
A hearing is then held before the GA Senate, where three Trump witnesses gave the following false testimony:
Rudy testified falsely that the same ballots were counted 5 times, 2,560 felons voted, and 10,315 dead people voted.
Ray Smith testified falsely that the Sect of State admitted 8,000 people voted illegally and claimed the Sec of State said the election was only 90% accurate.
Cheeley testified falsely that election workers counted some ballots over and over again.
Jenna then wrote a memo to Trump that Pence should not open the envelopes with the votes from the 6 states because they were "in dispute."
Trump and Eastman then file an injunction against Kemp citing multiple false claims of fraud. Earlier that day, Eastman had sent a memo to Trump campaign attorneys that he knew that some of the allegations of fraud in the lawsuit were false.
Trump and Meadows then call Brad Raffensperger on the recorded call. Trump makes 12 different false statements in that call.
Trump then tweets out that Raffensperger won't listen to him. "He has no clue!"
Lee, Harrison Floyd, and Kanye West publicist Trevian Kutti all make 11 different phone calls to Ruby Freeman. She won't talk to them.
Kutti then flies to GA from Chicago and drives to Freeman's house. She told the neighbor she was a "crisis manager" and was there to help her.
Kutti finally meets with Freeman for an hour and offers her "protection and help" if she will confess to fraud. She asks her to sign a statement that she committed fraud. She refuses.
Trump then tweets, "The VP has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors."
Eastman then meets with Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short to get Pence to reject electors.
Trump then meets with Pence. Pence refuses to go along with it. Trump told him he was nave and lacked courage.
Trump later calls Pence and tried again.
Trump then calls Pence another time and tells him "you got to be tough tomorrow."
Trump then puts out a statement falsely claiming that Pence agreed with him that he has the power to reject electors.
Then the indictment details what happened on J6.
The indictment then lays out the scheme orchestrated by Sidney Powell where they hacked voting machines in Coffee County, took ballots, took confidential voter info, data and software illegally.
Unit2Sucks said:
For anyone who doesn't want to read the 98 page indictment, here's a high level summary of the factual claims.
In case you are wondering, no, this is not normal stuff. No, Hillary Clinton didn't do any of this in 2016. No, Al Gore didn't do any of this in 2000. If Willis can substantiate these claims with evidence and Trump and his co-conspirators aren't convicted, Trump will be correct that we no longer have rule of law and that we have a rigged justice system. He, of course, will be wrong about who it harms.
This guy has no business being anywhere near an election and the fact that he's going to be the GOP nominee, even if he were somehow convicted before the election, is the real indictment on the American conservative movement and their belief in the rule of law. The reason the GOP is so focused on Hunter Biden is because they can't defend this.Quote:
THE TRUMP RICO INDICTMENT
This is how the conspiracy played out according to the indictment:
Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell made false statements at a press conference in Nov 2020 with wild accusations of fraud.
Trump, Mark Meadows, and John McEntee draft a memo for their plan to disrupt and delay counting electoral votes from 6 states on J6. Pence was to refuse to count those states and return the issue to the state legislatures who would the adopt the alternate slate of Trump electors, citing "fraud."
Rudy, Jenna, John Eastman and Atlanta lawyer Ray Smith solicited 14 GA Senators to sign off on their fake electors based on voter fraud.
Rudy and Trump made separate phone calls to the President of the GA Senate claiming voter fraud.
Trump calls Gov Brian Kemp to pressure him to call a Special Session. Kemp refused.
Trump then tweets that Kemp and Lt. Gov Duncan are ignoring fraud and refusing to call a Special Session. This begins a pattern where Trump would lie, GA officials would say he is wrong, then Trump would tweet to his millions of followers that they are being traitors and the public should pressure them to go along with the scheme. This happens over and over.
Powell hires a firm to illegally breach voting machines to collect data to try to show votes were "flipped."
Eastman and GA lawyer Robert Cheeley plan to set up meetings in 6 states where alternate slates of electors would be selected and would sign false certificates for Trump.
Cheeley sends an email to a GA Senator saying Eastman told him a Special Session must be called immediately where the GA legislature would approve the alternate electors on the grounds of fraud.
A "Patriot Call to Action" is tweeted calling on people to pressure GA officials to call a Special Session.
Trump has campaign official Bill White get personal and contact info on the GA Senate President and Majority Leader. White sends the info to Rudy.
Trump then calls the Speaker of the House to demand a Special Session.
Trump then calls the GA AG asking him to investigate false claims of fraud and to join the lawsuit filed by other state AGs in Texas.
Trump and Eastman call Ronna McDaniel to ask her to help them recruit people to serve as fake electors.
Trump attorney Kenneth Chesebro writes a memo to Trump campaign attorney outlining how the fake elector scheme would work.
Documents were then sent out to the state GOP Chairs for the 6 contested states for the fake electors to sign.
Rudy then testifies to the GA House the following fabricated things: Video showed election workers stealing votes, Ruby Freeman was using USB ports to flip votes, 96,000 fraudulent mail-in ballots were counted. This was all made up.
Rudy calls WI GOP official to tell him to keep the fake elector scheme secret.
Chesebro sends email to Rudy with multiple different plans to disrupt or delay counting the electoral votes on J6.
Rudy sends email telling everyone in each state to keep the fake elector meetings secret.
Trump tweets out, "Demand this clown call a special session now!" referring to Kemp.
Fake electors in 6 states meet and sign the false certificates under oath that they were "the duly elected and qualified electors" for their states.
Illinois pastor Stephen Lee is recruited to drive to Ruby Freeman's house in an attempt to coerce her into falsely confessing to fraud.
When Freeman refused to speak to Lee, he asked Harrison Floyd with Black Voices for Trump to help him. He said he thought Freeman wouldn't speak to him because he was white.
Rudy and Powell meet with Trump at the WH to discuss strategy, which included seizing voting machines and appointing Powell as Special Counsel to investigate fraud.
Powell hires a firm to hack and copy voting data from Dominion machines.
Meadows flies to GA and attempts to observe an audit of signature-verification ballots by investigators. He is denied entry because it isn't a public meeting.
Trump then calls the Chief Investigator, tells him that he won, and pressures him to find fraud: "When the right answer comes out, you'll be praised."
Eastman then sends email to Chesbro saying that the best plan was to get Pence (or Grassley if Pence was absent for some reason) to "act boldly and be challenged," because that would cause a delay that could throw things back to state legislatures.
Meadows then offers to pay the Chief Investigator out of Trump campaign funds if he will speed up the audit.
Trump then asks AG Jeffrey Rosen and Dep. AG Richard Donoghue to "just say the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and GOP congressmen." They refuse.
Jeff Clark writes up a document falsely claiming that DOJ "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome" of the election. Clark then asks Rosen and Donoghue to sign it so he can send it to Kemp. They refuse.
Trump then tweets that Kemp should resign.
A hearing is then held before the GA Senate, where three Trump witnesses gave the following false testimony:
Rudy testified falsely that the same ballots were counted 5 times, 2,560 felons voted, and 10,315 dead people voted.
Ray Smith testified falsely that the Sect of State admitted 8,000 people voted illegally and claimed the Sec of State said the election was only 90% accurate.
Cheeley testified falsely that election workers counted some ballots over and over again.
Jenna then wrote a memo to Trump that Pence should not open the envelopes with the votes from the 6 states because they were "in dispute."
Trump and Eastman then file an injunction against Kemp citing multiple false claims of fraud. Earlier that day, Eastman had sent a memo to Trump campaign attorneys that he knew that some of the allegations of fraud in the lawsuit were false.
Trump and Meadows then call Brad Raffensperger on the recorded call. Trump makes 12 different false statements in that call.
Trump then tweets out that Raffensperger won't listen to him. "He has no clue!"
Lee, Harrison Floyd, and Kanye West publicist Trevian Kutti all make 11 different phone calls to Ruby Freeman. She won't talk to them.
Kutti then flies to GA from Chicago and drives to Freeman's house. She told the neighbor she was a "crisis manager" and was there to help her.
Kutti finally meets with Freeman for an hour and offers her "protection and help" if she will confess to fraud. She asks her to sign a statement that she committed fraud. She refuses.
Trump then tweets, "The VP has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors."
Eastman then meets with Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short to get Pence to reject electors.
Trump then meets with Pence. Pence refuses to go along with it. Trump told him he was nave and lacked courage.
Trump later calls Pence and tried again.
Trump then calls Pence another time and tells him "you got to be tough tomorrow."
Trump then puts out a statement falsely claiming that Pence agreed with him that he has the power to reject electors.
Then the indictment details what happened on J6.
The indictment then lays out the scheme orchestrated by Sidney Powell where they hacked voting machines in Coffee County, took ballots, took confidential voter info, data and software illegally.
HBCU. Howard University Alum. Georgia District Attorney Fani Willis. "I've never been called the N-Word this much in my life!" pic.twitter.com/UcBneMlzFD
— Dr. Jackson-Edwards (@Harvarddoc32) August 15, 2023
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In case you are wondering, no, this is not normal stuff. No, Hillary Clinton didn't do any of this in 2016. No, Al Gore didn't do any of this in 2000.
oski003 said:
Are Trump and his team doing these actions because they truly believe the Democrats cheated, or are they knowingly committing this fraud?
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This is how safe & secure the 2020 election was in Georgia
— George (@BehizyTweets) August 14, 2023
Six sworn affidavits alleged Fulton County counted counterfeit ballots; (10s of thousands estimated.) The lawsuit is still ongoing.
Dropbox video surveillance representing 181,507 ballots destroyed in 102 counties… pic.twitter.com/dizC4FKY7l
oski003 said:
Are Trump and his team doing these actions because they truly believe the Democrats cheated, or are they knowingly committing this fraud?
chazzed said:
Christmas has come early many times for bearister this year. Trump worshipers will post their silly conspiracy theories, but we should let the legal system do its job--just as those Senate Republicans who lacked the courage to impeach 45 suggested we do."We're not gonna convict him, let the courts handle it."
— TheManDarren (@TheManDarren) August 15, 2023
"The courts shouldn't decide his fate, let this be decided at the ballot box."
"The ballot box didn't give us a win, so let's do some crimes to try to overturn things."
Rinse, repeat.
Ron Filipkowski on MeidasTouch.com. LOL. High level analysis indeed.Unit2Sucks said:
For anyone who doesn't want to read the 98 page indictment, here's a high level summary of the factual claims.
Stormy keeps saying he is … less than well-endowed.
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) March 19, 2023
The most obvious way to end this case is to just show everyone that she is lying.
Simple.
