ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
oski003 said:
I agree with Calbear93 here. I disagree with the treatment the OP get when this could have been a reasonable discussion.
dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
DiabloWags said:oski003 said:
I agree with Calbear93 here. I disagree with the treatment the OP get when this could have been a reasonable discussion.
I guess you failed to notice that he asked a question that he really wasn't genuinely seeking an answer for.
He already had his mind made up before he asked it.
Therefore, there was no chance for a reasonable discussion.
That's why he has no idea what calbear93 is talking about.
That's why he told me I could have, should have bought Bitcoin instead of a sports car.
Typical Troll-like behavior by a troll.
DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
Maybe they can get a room together?
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
Maybe they can get a room together?
We are already in a room with together, it is THIS off topic forum that you said you would NEVER again post in just a few months ago. Instead, you track and insult folks for what times and how many times they post a day. SAD.
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
Maybe they can get a room together?
We are already in a room with together, it is THIS off topic forum that you said you would NEVER again post in just a few months ago. Instead, you track and insult folks for what times and how many times they post a day. SAD.
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:
He certainly didn't mock you here until you drew first blood.
DiabloWags said:oski003 said:DiabloWags said:oski003 said:
He certainly didn't mock you here until you drew first blood.
More revisionist BS.
How old are you . . . 12?
DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
Maybe they can get a room together?
AunBear89 said:DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
ConcernTroll003 wants us to have a real discussion with DumbTroll2034. How sweet.
Maybe they can get a room together?
Kneepads003 doesn't need a room. A back alley, or a parked car works for him.
AunBear89 said:
Kneepads don't shag, they Hoover.
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:Absolutely!dajo9 said:
It is time for bear2034 to go all in on bitcoin
Samson Mow says it will hit $1 million in the near future.
You'd be a fool not to go all in here at 43,135.00
Diablo either has no recollection of this or actually thinks these posts aren't meant to mock the OP. The truth is likely he is just a lying dick who thinks it is okay to be a dick to someone if he (and others) don't like them.
bear2034 said:
How much is one coin against your currency, the Ruble?
DiabloWags said:oski003 said:DiabloWags said:Absolutely!dajo9 said:
It is time for bear2034 to go all in on bitcoin
Samson Mow says it will hit $1 million in the near future.
You'd be a fool not to go all in here at 43,135.00
Diablo either has no recollection of this or actually thinks these posts aren't meant to mock the OP. The truth is likely he is just a lying dick who thinks it is okay to be a dick to someone if he (and others) don't like them.
Your reading comprehension is terribly poor. Shocker.bear2034 said:
How much is one coin against your currency, the Ruble?
bear2034 said:
Any price is the right price for bitcoin. It's the scarcest asset in the world . . .
DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:
Any price is the right price for bitcoin. It's the scarcest asset in the world . . .
Pearls were once perceived as SCARCE in the early 1900's.
They were prized around the world and were often more valuable than gold and even diamonds.
And then they fell victim to what the economist Joseph Schumpeter called "the perennial gale of creative destruction."
bear2034 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:
Any price is the right price for bitcoin. It's the scarcest asset in the world . . .
Pearls were once perceived as SCARCE in the early 1900's.
They were prized around the world and were often more valuable than gold and even diamonds.
And then they fell victim to what the economist Joseph Schumpeter called "the perennial gale of creative destruction."
I saw a documentary once showing the extraordinary lengths pearl farmers go through to harvest large pearls in the South Pacific. The business is a fascinating combination of old school free diving and high-tech methods to ensure the pearls are of the highest quality.
If someone can hack the bitcoin blockchain so that more bitcoins can be mined above the 21 million supply limit, then I believe bitcoin will go to zero. But so far, there haven't been any successful hacks. Banks, governments, and large corporations can't say the same thing about their networks.
oski003 said:Definitely risk with Bitcoin. Every time a currency exchange gets hacked, crypto drops considerably. Otherwise, it seems to keep going up unless there is a black swan event that craters it.bear2034 said:DiabloWags said:bear2034 said:
Any price is the right price for bitcoin. It's the scarcest asset in the world . . .
Pearls were once perceived as SCARCE in the early 1900's.
They were prized around the world and were often more valuable than gold and even diamonds.
And then they fell victim to what the economist Joseph Schumpeter called "the perennial gale of creative destruction."
I saw a documentary once showing the extraordinary lengths pearl farmers go through to harvest large pearls in the South Pacific. The business is a fascinating combination of old school free diving and high-tech methods to ensure the pearls are of the highest quality.
If someone can hack the bitcoin blockchain so that more bitcoins can be mined above the 21 million supply limit, then I believe bitcoin will go to zero. But so far, there haven't been any successful hacks. Banks, governments, and large corporations can't say the same thing about their networks.
The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
There's probably more than 62.4 millionaires posting on Bear Insider.bear2034 said:
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
I would say that anyone over 40 who has not accumulated something close to $1m in assets during an all asset bubble driven by a zero interest rate environment has not really been trying. Of course, $1m won't buy you much of a retirement, especially if some of the assets are tied to illiquid assets like home equity.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There's probably more than 62.4 millionaires posting on Bear Insider.bear2034 said:
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
oski003 said:calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
How about Square?
calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
Zippergate said:
I don't think we can dismiss the possibility that Bitcoin is a US spook-sponsored psy-op to pave the way for CBDC.
Bitcoin and Ethereum seem like the only legitimate crypto assets.bear2034 said:calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
Bitcoin's volatility may scare off some but it's upside is enormous which is why we are seeing large inflows into the ETF's. It's volatility will diminish over time as more retail investors, institutions, and nation states adopt the bitcoin standard. I don't invest in other cryptocurrencies because bitcoin is a better hold of value in the long term due to its scarcity. I don't invest in bitcoin proxy stocks because I'd rather hold the actual asset in my possession.
calbear93 said:Bitcoin and Ethereum seem like the only legitimate crypto assets.bear2034 said:calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
Bitcoin's volatility may scare off some but it's upside is enormous which is why we are seeing large inflows into the ETF's. It's volatility will diminish over time as more retail investors, institutions, and nation states adopt the bitcoin standard. I don't invest in other cryptocurrencies because bitcoin is a better hold of value in the long term due to its scarcity. I don't invest in bitcoin proxy stocks because I'd rather hold the actual asset in my possession.
Crypto EFTs will spike demand for bitcoins for a bit but the funds are making those available only because they can get a cut of the easy management fees. I don't know if Larry Fink actually owns any crypto in his own personal account.
I see crypto as more a place to park funds in the midst of high instability similar to havens like gold. No intrinsic value. I also don't really view it as a legitimate digital currency when there is so much volatility. Government owned digital currency will be the only stable source in the future. Also, I believe cybersecurity risk remains a barrier to government adoption of digital currency but not an expert on that.
Doesn't mean crypto won't go up or outperform. Just not something I know how to value or justify the valuation. Similar to how I had no FOMO when GameStop or AMC stocks were skyrocketing. I had no advantage through analysis or experience, so happy to not participate and OK to miss out.
calbear93 said:Bitcoin and Ethereum seem like the only legitimate crypto assets.bear2034 said:calbear93 said:You do realize that the volatility of crypto (including, even if you are right, spike in price) makes it that unlikely that it will ever be adopted as currency for most commercial transactions.bear2034 said:The future is endless pic.twitter.com/hXXvuV8qkV
— Big Tesla (@hikingskiing) February 24, 2024
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
If you truly believe in the viability of crypto, why not invest in companies that will get growth no matter which crypto wins and no matter the volatility, such as Coinbase and Nvidia (you know, the computing power required to mine bitcoin)? If I were a believer in crypto, that would be my play. For me, I have been a believer of Nvidia and their market leading position for chips needed to handle the demands of AI processing and forward thinking management for a long time. Even during the internet bubble era, they were the market leaders for video graphics. The management always anticipates the next big demand in computing power. I personally would not invest in something solely crypto related like Coinbase, but I can see how they can be a winner and make for a safer investment that can be tracked for valuation if you believed in the crypto market.
Bitcoin's volatility may scare off some but it's upside is enormous which is why we are seeing large inflows into the ETF's. It's volatility will diminish over time as more retail investors, institutions, and nation states adopt the bitcoin standard. I don't invest in other cryptocurrencies because bitcoin is a better hold of value in the long term due to its scarcity. I don't invest in bitcoin proxy stocks because I'd rather hold the actual asset in my possession.
Crypto EFTs will spike demand for bitcoins for a bit but the funds are making those available only because they can get a cut of the easy management fees. I don't know if Larry Fink actually owns any crypto in his own personal account.
I see crypto as more a place to park funds in the midst of high instability similar to havens like gold. No intrinsic value. I also don't really view it as a legitimate digital currency when there is so much volatility. Government owned digital currency will be the only stable source in the future. Also, I believe cybersecurity risk remains a barrier to government adoption of digital currency but not an expert on that.
Doesn't mean crypto won't go up or outperform. Just not something I know how to value or justify the valuation. Similar to how I had no FOMO when GameStop or AMC stocks were skyrocketing. I had no advantage through analysis or experience, so happy to not participate and OK to miss out.
I would tend to agree with this.calbear93 said:I would say that anyone over 40 who has not accumulated something close to $1m in assets during an all asset bubble driven by a zero interest rate environment has not really been trying. Of course, $1m won't buy you much of a retirement, especially if some of the assets are tied to illiquid assets like home equity.Eastern Oregon Bear said:There's probably more than 62.4 millionaires posting on Bear Insider.bear2034 said:
More than your average millionaire, amazingly. There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.
The Golden State contains 1.15 million households with more than $1 million in investible assets (2020).bear2034 said:
There are about 62.4 millionaires in the world, if you divide that into 21 million bitcoins, that's only 0.33 bitcoin per millionaire.
90/10 split. Bitcoin (including bitcoin ETF) / Tesla. Concentration, not diversification.