RFK jr considering Aaron Rogers as running mate

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Cal88 said:

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okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."




If he already has had covid, he would have indeed been immunized. The immunization from prior infection is more complete, effective and longer-lasting than that from the mRNA vaccine.

In any case, for his age group and fitness level, the mRNA vaccine does not present a very favorable risk-benefit profile. In that sense, his decision was rational and well-informed.
not going to ask where you conjured that claim out of, because its a tiresome antivaxx trope. more complete? lol covid has a high rate of mutation, so high that there were many strains going around, and immunity from another infection varied according to the strain, if you were lucky you could get a few weeks out of it, but if you kept informed you would have known that when he said that immunization claim you could literally get reinfected within days of fighting off one infection. right now, its around 24-48 hours before you get reinfected.

his decision was galactically irrational and completely misinformed.
neither you nor he has any knowledge of all the research and tracking of the strains.
its easily accessible data, btw. but lets be real, he doesn't spend his spare time reading peer reviewed published scientific research. he's too busy hiding in dark rooms for 4 days trying to magically push out toxins while getting high off of sacred indigenous plant medicines so he can pretend to be enlightened.


Here is a citation confirming this (in French, but English autotranslation/CC available). At the 4:00 mark, prof. Raoult states that natural infection is up to 10 times more protective than the vaccine, as observed among the thousands of patients he has seen as head of the foremost state-run hospital in southern France:



From what I understand, one main reason immunization from an infection is more complete is that the vaccine only acts on a narrow spectrum of the immune system.

As well there is a significant time lag between the formulation of the strains chosen for a given vaccine and its administration, which involves some guesswork. The success of a flu vaccine for instance depends on scientists guessing in summertime which flu strains are going to be most widely spread several months later during the winter flu season. This random element accounts for a lot of the variability in the effectiveness of the flu vaccine from season to season.




This guy is a known charlatan. This is what happens when people don't spend time actually vetting their sources you end up spouting insane nonsense.
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LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.
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Cal88 said:

Orban did not just gain a first majority, he is still drawing 54% of the vote 12 years after his first landslide win. This indicates a very clear and solid democratic mandate.
Yes, just like Vladimir Putin wins massive landslide majorities in what are clearly free and fair elections.
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Grigsby said:

Cal88 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."




If he already has had covid, he would have indeed been immunized. The immunization from prior infection is more complete, effective and longer-lasting than that from the mRNA vaccine.

In any case, for his age group and fitness level, the mRNA vaccine does not present a very favorable risk-benefit profile. In that sense, his decision was rational and well-informed.
Do you even science, bro? This is so utterly false, it suggests you have an IQ of a turnip.
Bro, Fauci said, "I am the science", and the cult nodded their heads together in approval.
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calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."
And the vaccine nazis lost their minds.


Your use of that term is vile, but you probably know that. God have mercy on your soul.

1.2 million Americans died from the virus. More than in any other country, more than all the American deaths from all the wars in history combined. The vaccines ended the pandemic.

John Kelly has recently recounted how much your hero Trump admires Hitler. Yes, Trump pushed for the vaccines, but that is not why he and so many of his followers are Nazis.

Aaron Rodgers' vaccination status had nothing to do with other people who died from the virus, many who were experiencing multiple comorbidities. Professional athletes aren't in the same category but the anti-science, pro-vaccine mandate people don't care. It's best you save your faux outrage for those who experienced vaccine injury or death.


My contempt is not for Aaron, It is 100% for your repeated wilfull and vile use of the term "Nazi" for medical health professionals who were attempting to SAVE lives in the midst of a pandemic that killed millions that the death cult only encouraged by actively opposing even simple measures like mask wearing.

Your trying to justify the deaths of millions due to "co-morbidities" is similarly vile. My friends and family members who died were mostly in good health in their 50s, some former athletes. But even if they weren't their deaths are justified in your mind? Fortunately my parents in the 80s, one on dialysis, one on chemo, with FAR worse potential "co-morbidities" were vaccinated when they caught COVID in the hospital and are still with us. The vaccine saved their lives. Meanwhile my 25 year old nephew, their grandson, is an orphan due to COVID but wouldn't be if the vaccine were available sooner.

If you want to be a decent person and argue your point about vaccines being unsafe do so without calling health professionals like my sister, many who died trying to save lives, including yours, Nazis.

Of course your contempt is for Aaron, why lie?

There are differences between being anti-vaccine, anti-mRNA vaccine, and anti-vaccine mandate. It's been over four years, you should sort this out first.
My contempt is for you calling people who are trying to save lives Nazis. Got it?

I was referring to anti-science, anti-truth, pro-censorship, pro-mRNA vax mandate crowd. This you?
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Unit2Sucks said:

LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.

OT is a place where people who blindly accept and promote American propaganda are challenged.
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bear2034 said:

Grigsby said:

Cal88 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."




If he already has had covid, he would have indeed been immunized. The immunization from prior infection is more complete, effective and longer-lasting than that from the mRNA vaccine.

In any case, for his age group and fitness level, the mRNA vaccine does not present a very favorable risk-benefit profile. In that sense, his decision was rational and well-informed.
Do you even science, bro? This is so utterly false, it suggests you have an IQ of a turnip.
Bro, Fauci said, "I am the science", and the cult nodded their heads together in approval.
Ahh yes believe grifters pedding their scams over scientists seems like a sound idea.
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bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.

OT is a place where people who blindly accept and promote American propaganda are challenged by Russian disinformation farms.
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Grigsby said:

bear2034 said:

Grigsby said:

Cal88 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."




If he already has had covid, he would have indeed been immunized. The immunization from prior infection is more complete, effective and longer-lasting than that from the mRNA vaccine.

In any case, for his age group and fitness level, the mRNA vaccine does not present a very favorable risk-benefit profile. In that sense, his decision was rational and well-informed.
Do you even science, bro? This is so utterly false, it suggests you have an IQ of a turnip.
Bro, Fauci said, "I am the science", and the cult nodded their heads together in approval.
Ahh yes believe grifters pedding their scams over scientists seems like a sound idea.
I like scientists who question "the science".
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If nothing else, this thread has diverted my attention from the meltdown of our showing against Stanford. Thanks y'all.
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Unit2Sucks
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The only question left is which OT troll or trolls is Aaron?

He seems to share a lot of the same bundled beliefs as many of our posters and apparently enjoys sharing them with anyone who will listen. I don't recall anyone here being a Sandy Hook denier, but I wouldn't put it past them.
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Unit2Sucks said:

The only question left is which OT troll or trolls is Aaron?

He seems to share a lot of the same bundled beliefs as many of our posters and apparently enjoys sharing them with anyone who will listen. I don't recall anyone here being a Sandy Hook denier, but I wouldn't put it past them.

The OT trolls thought Cal88 was Putin but we dubunked that one a long time ago.
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bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.

OT is a place where people who blindly accept and promote American propaganda are challenged.


"American propaganda" is a major tell for those who are deeply compromised by Putin's massive online propaganda machine. I believe his term from his days in the KGB is "useful idiots."
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calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.

OT is a place where people who blindly accept and promote American propaganda are challenged.


"American propaganda" is a major tell for those who are deeply compromised by Putin's massive online propaganda machine. I believe his term from his days in the KGB is "useful idiots."
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bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."
And the vaccine nazis lost their minds.


Your use of that term is vile, but you probably know that. God have mercy on your soul.

1.2 million Americans died from the virus. More than in any other country, more than all the American deaths from all the wars in history combined. The vaccines ended the pandemic.

John Kelly has recently recounted how much your hero Trump admires Hitler. Yes, Trump pushed for the vaccines, but that is not why he and so many of his followers are Nazis.

Aaron Rodgers' vaccination status had nothing to do with other people who died from the virus, many who were experiencing multiple comorbidities. Professional athletes aren't in the same category but the anti-science, pro-vaccine mandate people don't care. It's best you save your faux outrage for those who experienced vaccine injury or death.


My contempt is not for Aaron, It is 100% for your repeated wilfull and vile use of the term "Nazi" for medical health professionals who were attempting to SAVE lives in the midst of a pandemic that killed millions that the death cult only encouraged by actively opposing even simple measures like mask wearing.

Your trying to justify the deaths of millions due to "co-morbidities" is similarly vile. My friends and family members who died were mostly in good health in their 50s, some former athletes. But even if they weren't their deaths are justified in your mind? Fortunately my parents in the 80s, one on dialysis, one on chemo, with FAR worse potential "co-morbidities" were vaccinated when they caught COVID in the hospital and are still with us. The vaccine saved their lives. Meanwhile my 25 year old nephew, their grandson, is an orphan due to COVID but wouldn't be if the vaccine were available sooner.

If you want to be a decent person and argue your point about vaccines being unsafe do so without calling health professionals like my sister, many who died trying to save lives, including yours, Nazis.

Of course your contempt is for Aaron, why lie?

There are differences between being anti-vaccine, anti-mRNA vaccine, and anti-vaccine mandate. It's been over four years, you should sort this out first.
My contempt is for you calling people who are trying to save lives Nazis. Got it?

I was referring to anti-science, anti-truth, pro-censorship, pro-mRNA vax mandate crowd. This you?


The way science works is you present your facts. Refer to peer-reviewed scientific journals. You don't resort to constant insults and name calling. You don't parrot "talking points" from political websites.

Most countries had far stronger and more coordinated mask, lockdown, testing and quarantine and then vaccination policies than the United States. Many far stronger. As a direct result the US had more deaths by COVID than any other country. More than 1.2 million Americans. More Americans killed than in all the wars in history combined.

It was not due to "co-morbidities" if you do simple math you will see that our "death rate": the percentage of people who died after catching COVID is comparable to other counties. The difference is we just let COVID spread unchecked and far more Americans caught COVID due to active, violent sometimes even armed resistance to simple health policies like mask wearing. The opposition to mask wearing in the US came from largely online political sources, the same that later opposed vaccination (mostly in the US) and probably not coincidently endorse Putin's invasion of and war in Ukraine.

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A "bombshell CNN report"? You should read the comments for the CNN report on Jake Tapper's twitter account.
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bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

LOL welcome to OT guys. It's like a video game where all the NPCs are powered by misinformation.

OT is a place where people who blindly accept and promote American propaganda are challenged.


"American propaganda" is a major tell for those who are deeply compromised by Putin's massive online propaganda machine. I believe his term from his days in the KGB is "useful idiots."



So Fox News, NewsMax and all the other right-wing news sources are not American? Again, calling CNN "American propaganda" as an insult is a major tell. It would only be used by someone who is anti-American.

And Rodgers is hopefully just lying (again). I certainly hope he did not spread (as confirmed by multiple people including teammates) conspiracies about 9/11 and Sandy Hook that he KNEW to be false. That would be far worse. That is what Alex Jones admitted to doing, but he did it to make money (not that it excuses it). I'd rather believe Aaron was just duped and now he knows better but is lying because he actually wants to run with RFK Jr.
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It's an easy Yes or No question. "Jake, do you still beat your wife?"

He's clearly hiding something. I feel it in my bones.
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calumnus said:



It was not due to "co-morbidities" if you do simple math you will see that our "death rate": the percentage of people who died after catching COVID is comparable to other counties. The difference is we just let COVID spread unchecked and far more Americans caught COVID due to active, violent sometimes even armed resistance to simple health policies like mask wearing. The opposition to mask wearing in the US came from largely online political sources, the same that later opposed vaccination (mostly in the US) and probably not coincidently endorse Putin's invasion of and war in Ukraine.

There was a pronounced shift in COVID deaths after the availability of vaccines. Politicized misinformation greatly increased our COVID death count.


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Unit2Sucks said:

The only question left is which OT troll or trolls is Aaron?

He seems to share a lot of the same bundled beliefs as many of our posters and apparently enjoys sharing them with anyone who will listen. I don't recall anyone here being a Sandy Hook denier, but I wouldn't put it past them.

I'm Aaron Rodgers!!!
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I blame the Jews.
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bear2034 said:

It's an easy Yes or No question. "Jake, do you still beat your wife?"

He's clearly hiding something. I feel it in my bones.


"Did you ever say Sandy Hook was a hoax?"

"I have never believed Sandy Hook was a hoax."

Again, he has spread other similar conspiracies from Alex Jones, sometimes on podcasts. He even convinced a GB teammate 9/11 was an inside job.

Now that Alex Jones has admitted under oath that he knew Sandy Hook was real, lots of people are saying "Oh, I never believed that BS from Alex Jones." Sure. Then why did you used to talk about it and spread it?

But good statement from Aaron, he is clearly a political candidate.
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calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

It's an easy Yes or No question. "Jake, do you still beat your wife?"

He's clearly hiding something. I feel it in my bones.


"Did you ever say Sandy Hook was a hoax?"

"I have never believed Sandy Hook was a hoax."

Again, he has spread other similar conspiracies from Alex Jones, sometimes on podcasts. He even convinced a GB teammate 9/11 was an inside job.

Now that Alex Jones has admitted under oath that he knew Sandy Hook was real, lots of people are saying "Oh, I never believed that BS from Alex Jones." Sure. Then why did you used to talk about it and spread it?

But good statement from Aaron, he is clearly a political candidate.


I saw a tweet suggesting Rodgers' statement was likely AI-generated.




I have no idea if the image is real or if so how accurate the AI machine interpreting the text as AI might be. But I still thought it was funny.
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Anarchistbear said:

I blame the Jews.
You're supposed to say (((globalists))), zionists or Soros. Then people can pretend it's not anti-semitism.
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Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

I blame the Jews.
You're supposed to say (((globalists))), zionists or Soros. Then people can pretend it's not anti-semitism.


Ok, AIPAC and Hollywood moguls
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Anarchistbear said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

I blame the Jews.
You're supposed to say (((globalists))), zionists or Soros. Then people can pretend it's not anti-semitism.


Ok, AIPAC and Hollywood moguls


Or a "cabal" of all of the above. Majorie Taylor Green revealing that her knowledge of "Jewish space lasers" is from the same sources she gets her other racist, antisemitic, antivax pro-Putin conspiracy nonsense was too transparent.
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calumnus said:

Anarchistbear said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

I blame the Jews.
You're supposed to say (((globalists))), zionists or Soros. Then people can pretend it's not anti-semitism.


Ok, AIPAC and Hollywood moguls


Or a "cabal" of all of the above. Majorie Taylor Green revealing that her knowledge of "Jewish space lasers" is from the same sources she gets her other racist, antisemitic, antivax pro-Putin conspiracy nonsense was too transparent.
I must have missed this - did she disclose which handle she uses to post in the BI OT board?
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Thinking about this a bit more, it's almost certainly AI created. It's these two sentences:

Quote:

Again, I hope that we learn from this and other tragedies to identify the signs that will allow us to prevent unnecessary loss of life. My thoughts and prayers continue to remain with the families affected along with the entire Sandy Hook community.


The first sentence begins with "Again" which suggests a reiterated point. But this is the first time he's made the point. The larger point of this sentence is also odd - the use of "this" makes more sense on a recent tragedy, not one that is years old. And the phrases "identify the signs" and "prevent unnecessary loss of life" just seem very robotic. No one who has any normal feelings would write those phrases in this situation.

The second sentence again is a nice thought on first glance, because those families and that community are forever affected. But it also sounds like something you'd say about a much more recent incident.

The fact he (likely) needed AI to write this is pretty bad. He's a strange guy.
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Unit2Sucks said:

calumnus said:

Anarchistbear said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Anarchistbear said:

I blame the Jews.
You're supposed to say (((globalists))), zionists or Soros. Then people can pretend it's not anti-semitism.


Ok, AIPAC and Hollywood moguls


Or a "cabal" of all of the above. Majorie Taylor Green revealing that her knowledge of "Jewish space lasers" is from the same sources she gets her other racist, antisemitic, antivax pro-Putin conspiracy nonsense was too transparent.
I must have missed this - did she disclose which handle she uses to post in the BI OT board?


"I'm not a doctor, but…."


Majorie Taylor Greene claiming 9/11 was and "inside job" and Sandy Hook (and all school shootings) were fake:
https://www.mediamatters.org/false-flag-conspiracy-theory/facebook-2018-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-endorsed-conspiracy-theories
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bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."
And the vaccine nazis lost their minds.


Your use of that term is vile, but you probably know that. God have mercy on your soul.

1.2 million Americans died from the virus. More than in any other country, more than all the American deaths from all the wars in history combined. The vaccines ended the pandemic.

John Kelly has recently recounted how much your hero Trump admires Hitler. Yes, Trump pushed for the vaccines, but that is not why he and so many of his followers are Nazis.

Aaron Rodgers' vaccination status had nothing to do with other people who died from the virus, many who were experiencing multiple comorbidities. Professional athletes aren't in the same category but the anti-science, pro-vaccine mandate people don't care. It's best you save your faux outrage for those who experienced vaccine injury or death.


My contempt is not for Aaron, It is 100% for your repeated wilfull and vile use of the term "Nazi" for medical health professionals who were attempting to SAVE lives in the midst of a pandemic that killed millions that the death cult only encouraged by actively opposing even simple measures like mask wearing.

Your trying to justify the deaths of millions due to "co-morbidities" is similarly vile. My friends and family members who died were mostly in good health in their 50s, some former athletes. But even if they weren't their deaths are justified in your mind? Fortunately my parents in the 80s, one on dialysis, one on chemo, with FAR worse potential "co-morbidities" were vaccinated when they caught COVID in the hospital and are still with us. The vaccine saved their lives. Meanwhile my 25 year old nephew, their grandson, is an orphan due to COVID but wouldn't be if the vaccine were available sooner.

If you want to be a decent person and argue your point about vaccines being unsafe do so without calling health professionals like my sister, many who died trying to save lives, including yours, Nazis.

Of course your contempt is for Aaron, why lie?

There are differences between being anti-vaccine, anti-mRNA vaccine, and anti-vaccine mandate. It's been over four years, you should sort this out first.
My contempt is for you calling people who are trying to save lives Nazis. Got it?

I was referring to anti-science, anti-truth, pro-censorship, pro-mRNA vax mandate crowd. This you?



I challenge you to find a single neo-Nazi or white supremacist group worldwide that was not antivax.

Those are the real Nazis.

Again, calling the health experts who ended the pandemic and SAVED millions of lives "Nazis" instead of the actual Nazis who fanned the flames leading to millions dying unnecessariky is either projection or deliberate falsehood.
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The good news is that A A Ron is a Cal dropout, not a Cal grad, so at least he's not sullying the good name of the degree.
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calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

calumnus said:

bear2034 said:

okaydo said:

Rodgers told reporters he was "immunized."
And the vaccine nazis lost their minds.


Your use of that term is vile, but you probably know that. God have mercy on your soul.

1.2 million Americans died from the virus. More than in any other country, more than all the American deaths from all the wars in history combined. The vaccines ended the pandemic.

John Kelly has recently recounted how much your hero Trump admires Hitler. Yes, Trump pushed for the vaccines, but that is not why he and so many of his followers are Nazis.

Aaron Rodgers' vaccination status had nothing to do with other people who died from the virus, many who were experiencing multiple comorbidities. Professional athletes aren't in the same category but the anti-science, pro-vaccine mandate people don't care. It's best you save your faux outrage for those who experienced vaccine injury or death.


My contempt is not for Aaron, It is 100% for your repeated wilfull and vile use of the term "Nazi" for medical health professionals who were attempting to SAVE lives in the midst of a pandemic that killed millions that the death cult only encouraged by actively opposing even simple measures like mask wearing.

Your trying to justify the deaths of millions due to "co-morbidities" is similarly vile. My friends and family members who died were mostly in good health in their 50s, some former athletes. But even if they weren't their deaths are justified in your mind? Fortunately my parents in the 80s, one on dialysis, one on chemo, with FAR worse potential "co-morbidities" were vaccinated when they caught COVID in the hospital and are still with us. The vaccine saved their lives. Meanwhile my 25 year old nephew, their grandson, is an orphan due to COVID but wouldn't be if the vaccine were available sooner.

If you want to be a decent person and argue your point about vaccines being unsafe do so without calling health professionals like my sister, many who died trying to save lives, including yours, Nazis.

Of course your contempt is for Aaron, why lie?

There are differences between being anti-vaccine, anti-mRNA vaccine, and anti-vaccine mandate. It's been over four years, you should sort this out first.
My contempt is for you calling people who are trying to save lives Nazis. Got it?

I was referring to anti-science, anti-truth, pro-censorship, pro-mRNA vax mandate crowd. This you?

I challenge you to find a single neo-Nazi or white supremacist group worldwide that was not antivax.

Those are the real Nazis.

Again, calling the health experts who ended the pandemic and SAVED millions of lives "Nazis" instead of the actual Nazis who fanned the flames leading to millions dying unnecessariky is either projection or deliberate falsehood.


I have no idea what the vaccination status is of members of the Ukraine military.

And why do you care so much about the vaccination status of others? Could it be that you are a vaccine Nazi?
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pingpong2 said:

The good news is that A A Ron is a Cal dropout, not a Cal grad, so at least he's not sullying the good name of the degree.

Speaking of Cal grads, the senate staffer who filmed himself getting banged at the Capitol was voted Cal alumnus of the year in 2023 by your fellow alumni.

2023 Cal Alumni of the Year | Bear Insider
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GMP said:


I saw a tweet suggesting Rodgers' statement was likely AI-generated.
 
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