dajo9 said:
Political violence is always unacceptable.
This is a good time to compare Democratic politician responses to an assassin going after Trump vs. Republican politician responses to an assassin going after the Pelosi household / family.
SBGold said:
Losing an election is one thing, getting yourself killed is another. It's probably how Trumpnwants to go out anyway
a 150 yard shot with elevation change and likely windage is not an easy shot. I predict this was either a very very skilled rifleman (hunter, military sniper, etc) or someone who was entirely clueless about the difficulty involved and got insanely lucky to hit his target at all.BearGoggles said:Are you watching CNN? They are spending much of their time wondering how in the world the Secret Service allowed a shooter on that rooftop. And CNN is not alone - many people are already saying it is gross incompetence to not have the rooftop locked down.concordtom said:dajo9 said:bear2034 said:
No way Trump wrote that
That's notable because I predict he will totally flip and blame the Secret Service in 3…2…1…
Wait for it.
There are multiple reports (from the right) that the Biden admin has denied Trump additional security. Not sure if its true, but Bongino is a former secret service officer so I suspect he would have real sources. If this proves to be true (and we know they are denying protection to RFK Jr.), there will be hell to pay.I want to repeat, and can absolutely confirm, the USSS Director Kim Cheatle has repeatedly turned down requests for a larger security footprint around President Trump. Despite knowing the threat level is catastrophic.
— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) July 14, 2024
Resign tonight. https://t.co/v3UQyTt1dKShooter was about 150 yards from Trump on a rooftop with a direct line of sight to the stage.
— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) July 14, 2024
It defies every security protocol ever written that this rooftop was not secured, and law enforcement personnel were not standing up there. pic.twitter.com/a1WfwMRZPA
concordtom said:
The latter. 20 year old local guy.
What's horrible is that he hit two innocent people, killing one instantly and the other in critical condition.
Twobear2034 said:concordtom said:
The latter. 20 year old local guy.
What's horrible is that he hit two innocent people, killing one instantly and the other in critical condition.
He shot 3 innocent people.
GoOskie said:Twobear2034 said:concordtom said:
The latter. 20 year old local guy.
What's horrible is that he hit two innocent people, killing one instantly and the other in critical condition.
He shot 3 innocent people.
CNN: 'Clumsy Trump Hits Head On Bullet' https://t.co/7KSqs5OIIi pic.twitter.com/3HS18Kll7n
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) July 13, 2024
okaydo said:82gradDLSdad said:okaydo said:
Even if you want Donald Trump to die, him getting even grazed by a bullet is horrible. I mean, it's horrible in general. But it's horrible in every other way imaginable.
Even if you want him to die????? What is wrong with some of you?
A lot of people (including my mom) want Trump to die. That's just a fact. But those people thinking Trump dying would be a good thing are absolutely wrong. It would be horrible, horrible, horrible. Nothing good would come out of it.
Dos, deucebear2034 said:concordtom said:
The latter. 20 year old local guy.
What's horrible is that he hit two innocent people, killing one instantly and the other in critical condition.
He shot 3 innocent people.
I'm waiting for Trump to show up at the UFC fight.bear2034 said:
Are we all waiting for Joe Biden to call this an assassination attempt before we call it an assassination attempt?
It just reminds me that there are stupid people on X, and thankfully I have never had an X or Twitter accountBearGoggles said:If Trump were as bad as Biden and other Democrats say he is — if he were a tyrant on par with Hitler himself — then why would they be grateful to hear he's safe and doing well? Either their characterizations of Trump are false or their sympathy is. https://t.co/WlR1WABtG2
— Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) July 14, 2024
This is an apt question, both for democrat politicians and the posters on this board claiming to decry the attempted assassination.
The chaos candidate got some chaos, who's surprised. More chaos to come before Novemberokaydo said:SBGold said:
Wait, the ultimate Proud Boy hate politician got a graze shot with some hate given back to him and I'm the bad guy? His hate has made you respond uncivilly with more hate
There are about 5.5 billion other people in the world I fee more sorry for.
Lol
dimitrig said:okaydo said:82gradDLSdad said:okaydo said:
Even if you want Donald Trump to die, him getting even grazed by a bullet is horrible. I mean, it's horrible in general. But it's horrible in every other way imaginable.
Even if you want him to die????? What is wrong with some of you?
A lot of people (including my mom) want Trump to die. That's just a fact. But those people thinking Trump dying would be a good thing are absolutely wrong. It would be horrible, horrible, horrible. Nothing good would come out of it.
Disagree. Some good might come of it.
That said, we choose our leaders at the ballot box in this country. We don't assassinate political opponents.
bearister said:
How a Failed Assassination Attempt Pushed George Wallace to Reconsider His Segregationist Views | Smithsonian
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-a-failed-assassination-attempt-pushed-george-wallace-to-reconsider-his-segregationist-views-180980063/
"Instead of ascending to the United States' highest office, Wallace continued his career in state politics and in an unexpected turn of events, spent his remaining years seeking forgiveness from the Black community for the hatred and division he'd sown at the height of the civil rights movement."
*Will tRump have a similar epiphany?
concordtom said:dimitrig said:okaydo said:82gradDLSdad said:okaydo said:
Even if you want Donald Trump to die, him getting even grazed by a bullet is horrible. I mean, it's horrible in general. But it's horrible in every other way imaginable.
Even if you want him to die????? What is wrong with some of you?
A lot of people (including my mom) want Trump to die. That's just a fact. But those people thinking Trump dying would be a good thing are absolutely wrong. It would be horrible, horrible, horrible. Nothing good would come out of it.
Disagree. Some good might come of it.
That said, we choose our leaders at the ballot box in this country. We don't assassinate political opponents.
What good can come of this?
You think trump (or MAGA) is going to take some kind of high toad??
I completely agree. There are some very sick and pathetic people posting on Bear Insider. I'm ashamed to see this type of behavior on a site associated with Cal.Big C said:
As I just wrote on another thread, today we had a political leader shot, an innocent bystander killed and 1-2 others seriously injured. Screw everybody here (and elsewhere) who couldn't just show remorse for the event and instead went political*... without even waiting until tomorrow. You are part of the problem.
Golden One said:I completely agree. There are some very sick and pathetic people posting on Bear Insider. I'm ashamed to see this type of behavior on a site associated with Cal.Big C said:
As I just wrote on another thread, today we had a political leader shot, an innocent bystander killed and 1-2 others seriously injured. Screw everybody here (and elsewhere) who couldn't just show remorse for the event and instead went political*... without even waiting until tomorrow. You are part of the problem.
I was hoping to catch some of the Trump rally but he's a half-hour late and counting and I'm going tonight to Earth, Wind & Fire + Chicago with my mom, so think I'm going to have to punt on live coverage. Have a lovely Saturday.
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 13, 2024
I’m still laughing at Aaron Rupar building his entire career and persona around watching and clipping Trump rallies and then taking the afternoon off today
— c a i t l i n (@hello__caitlin) July 14, 2024
remembering how Donald Trump’s folks reacted the last time someone tried to assassinate a political leader pic.twitter.com/YY6MS3lPrd
— Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma) July 14, 2024
Perhaps, like all reasonable human beings, they decry political violence. For those who celebrate the January 6 "patriots," that may be hard to understand.BearGoggles said:If Trump were as bad as Biden and other Democrats say he is — if he were a tyrant on par with Hitler himself — then why would they be grateful to hear he's safe and doing well? Either their characterizations of Trump are false or their sympathy is. https://t.co/WlR1WABtG2
— Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) July 14, 2024
This is an apt question, both for democrat politicians and the posters on this board claiming to decry the attempted assassination.
okaydo said:BearGoggles said:
When a political party says that a person is an existential threat to democracy, a threat to the country, worse than Hitler/nazis, etc. you are giving the green light for people to do "anything" to stop them. This is not at all surprising.
I get your sentiment, but this isn't the time to criticize Trump and fellow Republicans for their past comments about Obama.
bear2034 said:okaydo said:BearGoggles said:
When a political party says that a person is an existential threat to democracy, a threat to the country, worse than Hitler/nazis, etc. you are giving the green light for people to do "anything" to stop them. This is not at all surprising.
I get your sentiment, but this isn't the time to criticize Trump and fellow Republicans for their past comments about Obama.
This isn't the time to play snowflake. Obama has never been spied on, impeached over a hoax, had his home searched, indicted, arrested, thrown off the ballot, and shot at.
okaydo said:remembering how Donald Trump’s folks reacted the last time someone tried to assassinate a political leader pic.twitter.com/YY6MS3lPrd
— Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma) July 14, 2024
dimitrig said:bear2034 said:okaydo said:BearGoggles said:
When a political party says that a person is an existential threat to democracy, a threat to the country, worse than Hitler/nazis, etc. you are giving the green light for people to do "anything" to stop them. This is not at all surprising.
I get your sentiment, but this isn't the time to criticize Trump and fellow Republicans for their past comments about Obama.
This isn't the time to play snowflake. Obama has never been spied on, impeached over a hoax, had his home searched, indicted, arrested, thrown off the ballot, and shot at.
That's because Obama is a decent human being unlike Trump.
Everyone dies at a day and hour unknown to them. But if Trump was assassinated, things would become far from normal.dimitrig said:
Trump is a cult of personality. If he happens to die the country can go back to normal again.
Mods, does this qualify as Off-Topic material?GoOskie said:
We ARE living in a simulation.
