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In reply to 82gradDLSdad • 10:17a, 7/14/24
82gradDLSdad said:
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BearGoggles said:
When a political party says that a person is an existential threat to democracy, a threat to the country, worse than Hitler/nazis, etc. you are giving the green light for people to do "anything" to stop them. This is not at all surprising.

I get your sentiment, but this isn't the time to criticize Trump and fellow Republicans for their past comments about Obama.
Cool story - I'm sure you think you're clever. Except this board is replete with people who have made exactly those types of claims about Trump.


For you to have the tiniest sliver of credibility you would need a history of denouncing Trump's rhetoric. But you are an idiot. And have a one-sided completely biased and hypocritical view of reality. You only take your righteous stances when it is applied to Democrats. How about you act with outrage against ALL inflammatory language?


All inflammatory language matters. I agree and I think it, and other sayings like it, would make a great slogan.



Just to underscore the full brainwashed cultish hypocrisy, Trumps first social media is about not letting evil win. What that one person did was an act of evil. Liberals and Trump's political opponents who resist authoritarianism, and who are citizens, are not evil. Joe Biden is not evil. The country will not end if Trump loses, but our current form of government and many civil protections and rights will likely end if Trump wins. BECAUSE HE SAYS THEY WILL.
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In reply to dajo9 • 10:17a, 7/14/24
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You should edit this. Though this article says he donated to President Biden, I've seen no other reporting that says such a thing. You should probably refrain from using an untrustworthy tabloid rag like DailyMail. If other reporting comes out and says the shooter donated to President Biden - then fine. But DailyMail posts lies all the times so either way, best not to link their garbage.


Thanks, I'll add this to my list of instructions to make sure and follow going forward. Feel free to send more….but you got to admit, the Tabs have such great and plentiful photos and celebrity underboob pics are just a click away!

With regard to the argument that this is on Biden for not providing additional layers of Secret Service protection, a lot of people have been saying that tRump does not want to pay the tab for easily secured indoor venues and many such venues are hesitant to rent to him because of his history of bad pay. He holds these lovefests outdoors even during heatwaves.
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10:31a, 7/14/24
"Those J6 warriors. They were warriors"
Donald Trump
"The rules were that you were not going to fact check"
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11:26a, 7/14/24
Our media is so terrible. Just plain bad at their jobs.

$15 Act Blue donor is maybe 69 year old Democrat of Pittsburgh, PA named Thomas Crooks. We'll find out more.

https://www.threads.net/@blueinredal/post/C9aYAOqO9_u/?xmt=AQGzxTECZVkbK21PrKJwEKllGsHgm3Dv9dHLDquhyrxe6w
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In reply to dajo9 • 12:09p, 7/14/24
Except later in the thread the show the Fec cert and it is the shooter's address.

Same guy. But why does it matter. It was 15 bucks 3 years ago
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In reply to BearGoggles • 12:43p, 7/14/24
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Cal88 said:
Please stop posting this inane crap from nonsense sources. Your algorithm is remarkably consistent at producing this unsubstantiated crap and you just lap it up and repost it here as a constant stream of diarrhea.

To be clear, current reports are there is one shooter and another victim in the crowd. Contrary to your antifa post, there is no credible evidence as to who the shooter is or what his motivation might have been. And I say that as someone who is about as anti- antifa as you can be.




That's normal for him!

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In reply to dajo9 • 1:16p, 7/14/24
Many think Crooks was a warrior also
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In reply to okaydo • 1:21p, 7/14/24
okaydo said:


Good guy with a gun
"The rules were that you were not going to fact check"
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In reply to bear2034 • 1:38p, 7/14/24
Duh, yes, but not the point
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 1:42p, 7/14/24
From you rings totally hollow bruh
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1:46p, 7/14/24
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In reply to MinotStateBeav • 3:13p, 7/14/24
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Generally speaking Americans don't speak to each other like they do online because there are consequences to say something like that face to face. Most americans just want to live a middle class life, take care of their family and be able to afford a vacation every so often. Trump isn't a threat to democracy, or hitler. Biden didn't call for the assassination of Trump. Jan 6 was a terrible riot, Trump didn't want a riot. Some people on J6 did some really bad things, some were just there and got jailed for years. Trump isn't going to end NATO, but does expect the participating countries to cover their slice of the pie. Trump is a jerk, Trump is a businessman. The country didn't end when Trump was president. The Country didn't end with Biden having almost no border lol. The things we argue about mostly is policy and most americans are rational, it's only when you get online is when you lose the filter and treat your fellow countrymen with complete disrespect, that's something people online will have to regulate themselves or you're going to have a country more fractured than it should be. You have to decide if that's the country you want to live in.

Some politicians need to tone down their rhetoric because I think everyone recognizes their filter has been taken off, imho since the inception of cable news but it's gotten progressively worse and worse. The media has a role to play as well by not being so one sided and calling out the dangerous rhetoric instead of participating in it.


I appreciating your efforts here. But some of your assertions are, in my opinion, not everything you say is true.
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In reply to dajo9 • 3:56p, 7/14/24
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BearGoggles said:
Cal88 said:
Please stop posting this inane crap from nonsense sources. Your algorithm is remarkably consistent at producing this unsubstantiated crap and you just lap it up and repost it here as a constant stream of diarrhea.

To be clear, current reports are there is one shooter and another victim in the crowd. Contrary to your antifa post, there is no credible evidence as to who the shooter is or what his motivation might have been. And I say that as someone who is about as anti- antifa as you can be.




Cal88 has been posting Russian propaganda here for years. One of the known goals of Russian propaganda efforts is to simply increase the divide between Americans. It is no surprise that Cal88 would come out after the assassination attempt spewing the most volatile, divisive misinformation.

Nobody should ever listen to Cal88. On any topic. At any time.

Russian propaganda, while serious, is overhyped. American propaganda is the real threat to Americans because it's way more prevalent and widespread.
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In reply to dajo9 • 3:59p, 7/14/24
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Paul Pelosi isn't a political leader and if he was, hammers aren't usually the weapon of choice for assassins unless you're playing the Clue boardgame?

So if somebody were to break into Donald Trump's home when he isn't there and hit Melania over the head with a hammer, that wouldn't count as political violence?

Somebody with a hammer? Like Paul Pelosi's lover?

There it is. MAGAts want license to normalize violence against their political opponents. The two sides are not equal. MAGA and the violence they push on us needs to be defeated in November. End the chaos.

David DePape is not a MAGA voter, he's a left-wing lunatic. Meanwhile, why do you easily forget about attacks against Rand Paul and Republicans at the Congressional baseball game?
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In reply to aweissburg • 4:03p, 7/14/24
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I don't expect this event or this rant will change any of you. But I'm just so sick of us tearing each other down.

The interesting thing about this period in time is that the left is tearing down not only Trump but also Biden and somehow making Trump even more popular in the process.
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In reply to graguna • 4:08p, 7/14/24
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There are some peculiar things that need investigation and explanation. To wit, why a roof with a direct line of site wasn't secured, why LEO didn't respond appropriately when spectators informed them a person with a rifle was on the roof, the shooter's motive and affiliations, and how the shooter had the skill (or luck) to make that shot. All of that could be nefarious stuff or it could be a confluence of systemic breakdowns and dumb luck. Let's let it play out a bit.
there's only one explaination. it was obviously an act of god. Do you think god approves of sexual assault? do you think god is happy that millions of his followers compare a rapist to his son.
I dont believe in god but if there is one, its certainly not a rape apologist as are so many of trumps so called christian followers.

Are you saying the biggest stumbling block between you and your belief in the Christian God is the testimony of E. Jean Carroll?

Speaking of E. Jean Carroll, last week the same Democrat billionaire who paid for E. Jean Carroll's lawsuit against Trump told a group of billionaires at a summit in Sun Valley that he wished he could make Trump "an actual martyr". Now his top advisor says Trump staged the assassination attempt. You can't make this up.
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In reply to blungld • 4:12p, 7/14/24
blungld said:
BearGoggles said:
okaydo said:
BearGoggles said:
When a political party says that a person is an existential threat to democracy, a threat to the country, worse than Hitler/nazis, etc. you are giving the green light for people to do "anything" to stop them. This is not at all surprising.

I get your sentiment, but this isn't the time to criticize Trump and fellow Republicans for their past comments about Obama.
Cool story - I'm sure you think you're clever. Except this board is replete with people who have made exactly those types of claims about Trump.
For you to have the tiniest sliver of credibility you would need a history of denouncing Trump's rhetoric. But you are an idiot. And have a one-sided completely biased and hypocritical view of reality. You only take your righteous stances when it is applied to Democrats. How about you act with outrage against ALL inflammatory language?

Most good lies consist of partial truths. In today's political climate, for liberals and lefties to say that both sides are equally guilty of inflammatory language is only partly true because the left is responsible for a disproportionate amount of it.
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In reply to blungld • 4:16p, 7/14/24
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82gradDLSdad said:


All inflammatory language matters. I agree and I think it, and other sayings like it, would make a great slogan.

Just to underscore the full brainwashed cultish hypocrisy, Trumps first social media is about not letting evil win. What that one person did was an act of evil. Liberals and Trump's political opponents who resist authoritarianism, and who are citizens, are not evil. Joe Biden is not evil. The country will not end if Trump loses, but our current form of government and many civil protections and rights will likely end if Trump wins. BECAUSE HE SAYS THEY WILL.

How will our constitutional republic end and what civil protections and rights will you lose if Trump wins?
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In reply to bearister • 4:21p, 7/14/24

The 2nd Amendment people forgot to bring their guns to the great insurrection. That's like saying LGBTQ+ parade goers forgetting to bring their rainbow flags to a Pride parade. That's like Antifa forgetting to wear masks to a "mostly peaceful" protest.
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In reply to okaydo • 4:45p, 7/14/24

The Central Park audience was cheering and laughing as the Trump character was stabbed to death on stage. This was back in 2017.
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In reply to dajo9 • 4:50p, 7/14/24
dajo9 said:
"Those J6 warriors. They were warriors"
Donald Trump

Our media is so terrible. Just plain bad at their jobs.
The media will take things out of context so you don't have to.

When will legacy media refer to J13 as an assassination attempt?

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4:55p, 7/14/24
Go outside and enjoy what is left of Sunday, you losers.
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4:58p, 7/14/24

I am outside and enjoying my Sunday immensely.
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5:01p, 7/14/24
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In reply to aweissburg • 5:04p, 7/14/24
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No. He's a 20 year old registered Republican who donated 15 bucks to a progressive PAC in 2021 (when he was 17) two weeks after Jan 6.

Come on people. This is not a grand conspiracy. This is a 20 year old nut case who thought he could do something that was unconscionable.

For those of you who want to suggest Trump brought this on, there is plenty of hate speech on the left. For those of you claiming that that this is a left wing conspiracy, aimed at an innocent politician who has done nothing, remember he's the guy who mocked Pelosi.

We are living in a society where we don't talk and we have normalized hate speech and gun violence. It isn't ok. Not on the right. Not on the left. We deserve better and we should act better.

I don't expect this event or this rant will change any of you. But I'm just so sick of us tearing each other down.

I would disagree that this is a one-off, isolated incident. I would be expecting more to come in the next 6 months to 4 years.
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In reply to bear2034 • 5:34p, 7/14/24
bear2034 said:
aweissburg said:
No. He's a 20 year old registered Republican who donated 15 bucks to a progressive PAC in 2021 (when he was 17) two weeks after Jan 6.

Come on people. This is not a grand conspiracy. This is a 20 year old nut case who thought he could do something that was unconscionable.

For those of you who want to suggest Trump brought this on, there is plenty of hate speech on the left. For those of you claiming that that this is a left wing conspiracy, aimed at an innocent politician who has done nothing, remember he's the guy who mocked Pelosi.

We are living in a society where we don't talk and we have normalized hate speech and gun violence. It isn't ok. Not on the right. Not on the left. We deserve better and we should act better.

I don't expect this event or this rant will change any of you. But I'm just so sick of us tearing each other down.

I would disagree that this is a one-off, isolated incident. I would be expecting more to come in the next 6 months to 4 years.


tRump's hate speech has inspired an army of violent maniacs.

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults. - ABC News


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889
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In reply to bearister • 5:57p, 7/14/24
You forgot three of the most famous ones which were all hoaxes. Jussie Smollett, the Covington kids in DC, and NASCAR driver, Bubba Wallace noose hoax.

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6:12p, 7/14/24

How the shooter was able to do this undetected by law enforcement and the Secret Service while noticed by others is incomprehensible.
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6:53p, 7/14/24
….but there is a cover of Sports Illustrated type jinx in play now:

Candidates for POTUS that survive an assassination attempt always lose: Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 and Gerald Ford, 2 attempts in 1975.
tRump can't overcome that kind of bad juju.
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In reply to Chapman_is_Gone • 7:51p, 7/14/24
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Go outside and enjoy what is left of Sunday, you losers.

I'll tell you one thing:

They gotta name for magnanimous Cal grads who selflessly take time out of their Sunday to come to this forum for the sole purpose of offering much-needed advice to losers in order to help them lose less...

Winners.

You care! Thanks, man... a lot.
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In reply to bear2034 • 8:04p, 7/14/24
Sure we do, his rhetoric is violent his policies mean spirited and draconian
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In reply to bear2034 • 8:09p, 7/14/24
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How the shooter was able to do this undetected by law enforcement and the Secret Service while noticed by others is incomprehensible.


Maybe if one of those yokels had done something other than film it…



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8:15p, 7/14/24
Biden has shown true leadership during this crisis. A reminder who we need
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