Tulsi is awesome

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BearGoggles
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philly1121 said:

Love it. Tulsi gets her due. Among the many achievements and bonafides that Trump loves is her willingness to look the other way when it comes to Russia. She is, after all, trying to prevent WW3.

What better way to announce her nomination than to have it done by longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone, who announced it on Alex Jones' show. (Isn't he bankrupt?)

So, Tulsi meets secretly with Bashar Assad and then conveniently states that Trump's 1st sec of state, Rex Tillerson, is wrong when he said Syria used chemical weapons. Of course, its no coincidence that this was the exact line given by Russia, who blamed UK secret agents for the chemical attack. uh huh

And the doozy about US supported chemical weapons plants in Ukraine. As the more sane minded on this board may recall, this was one of the reasons why Putin decided to invade.

And Elena Branson. The head of the Russian Community Council of the USA. A center that sought to advance Kremlin interests under the guise of preserving the Russian language and cultural history in the US. *chuckles* FBI raided her home and she fled to Russia. Kinda like Maria Butina.

No wonder she was on the watch list.

Russia, Russia, Russia.

Meanwhile, on Obama and Biden's watch, Russia started wars because Putin knew they were weak. That was after Obama told Putin's stand in Medvedev to tell Vladimir that Obama would be more flexible after the election.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI/

bear2034
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philly1121
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Whataboutism run amuck. yawn
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philly1121 said:

Whataboutism run amuck. yawn
LMAO. Its not whataboutism to say Obama/Biden were softer on Russia than Trump. Direct comparison of how they each treated Putin/Russia.

Feel free to point out where Trump went easy on Russia. I'll remind you that Obama refused to give arms to Ukraine and then Trump did give arms. Obama/Biden also conceded to Russia a much larger role in the middle east.

But by all means, carry on with Russia, Russia, Russia while ignoring that Obama/Biden have set the world on fire.


https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD994.pdf
concordtom
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Where do you get your news and/or opinion from?
Anarchistbear
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Tulsi is a good pick. With a foreign policy team of neocons intent on conflict in Europe, Middle East and Asia facilitated by "intelligence" I welcome a dissenting view
tequila4kapp
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Gaetz is a tough pill to swallow. But big picture, if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios. That isn't true of all the picks so far - some of them are more likely Trump loyalists than unconventional - but it's true with enough of them.
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios.




True. Sometimes you do get big changes.
They may just not be the changes you thought you were getting.


…Each generation needs to learn its own lessons for itself.
Cal88
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios.




True. Sometimes you do get big changes.
They may just not be the changes you thought you were getting.


…Each generation needs to learn its own lessons for itself.

Please keep the Ukraine content in the Ukraine thread.
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios.




True. Sometimes you do get big changes.
They may just not be the changes you thought you were getting.


…Each generation needs to learn its own lessons for itself.

Please keep the Ukraine content in the Ukraine thread.

It took Hitler just six weeks to arrive in Paris. Did you know that?
Yes, many French were collaborating with Hitler, sympathetic to his anti-Jew attacks. This became known as "Vichy", after the French town where the government was run 1940-44.

Did you know that?
Cal88
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concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios.




True. Sometimes you do get big changes.
They may just not be the changes you thought you were getting.


…Each generation needs to learn its own lessons for itself.

Please keep the Ukraine content in the Ukraine thread.

It took Hitler just six weeks to arrive in Paris. Did you know that?
Yes, many French were collaborating with Hitler, sympathetic to his anti-Jew attacks. This became known as "Vichy", after the French town where the government was run 1940-44.

Did you know that?

Yes, I saw it on a Netflix special a few years ago. It did not mention that France had over half a million killed and over a million soldiers POWed.
bear2034
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Brennan still has a security clearance?
philly1121
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Cal88 said:

philly1121 said:

Love it. Tulsi gets her due. Among the many achievements and bonafides that Trump loves is her willingness to look the other way when it comes to Russia. She is, after all, trying to prevent WW3.

What better way to announce her nomination than to have it done by longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone, who announced it on Alex Jones' show. (Isn't he bankrupt?)

So, Tulsi meets secretly with Bashar Assad and then conveniently states that Trump's 1st sec of state, Rex Tillerson, is wrong when he said Syria used chemical weapons. Of course, its no coincidence that this was the exact line given by Russia, who blamed UK secret agents for the chemical attack. uh huh





Yes, she is right about the chemical attack not being from the Syrian army, but from Al-Qaeda-affiliated jihadis armed and financed by the US, UK, as part of the multi-billion covert operation named Timber Sycamore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

This fact was corroborated by several independent experts, including MIT prof Theodore Postol who has analyzed the incident and concluded that the State Dept. and MSM were lying about the fact, along the same lines as the lies they have pushed in the runup to the Iraq war (yllowcake, mobile biolabs etc)

https://sts-program.mit.edu/people/emeriti-faculty/theodore-postol/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol#Syrian_civil_war_chemical_attacks

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And the doozy about US supported chemical weapons plants in Ukraine. As the more sane minded on this board may recall, this was one of the reasons why Putin decided to invade.

It was biolabs in Ukraine, not chemical weapons, right? Their presence in Ukraine was confirmed by Tory Nuland in a Congress testimony.

And btw Ukraine did use nerve agents dropped from drones on Russian soldiers. They haven't scaled up their use because it is more efficient to blow up a target with explosives than to drop a canister of gas.


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And Elena Branson. The head of the Russian Community Council of the USA. A center that sought to advance Kremlin interests under the guise of preserving the Russian language and cultural history in the US. *chuckles* FBI raided her home and she fled to Russia. Kinda like Maria Butina.

No wonder she was on the watch list.

Every major western country has cultural centers spread around the world to promote their language and cultural heritage and products: Alliance Francaise, Goethe Institut, British Council, etc. There are nearly 100 chapters of the Alliance Francaise in the US alone. But if the Russians or the Chinese want to set up such facilities, they are nefarious dens of spies.

This is an interesting one 88.

First off, Timber Sycamore was an arms program from the Obama Admin designed to get weapons and training to groups fighting the Assad regime. It was canceled in 2017 because, yes, arms were finding their way onto the black market and, in some instances, were getting into the hands of ISIL and other Islamic groups. However, there was never any chemical weapons or bio weapons that were given to any anti-Assad group and any attack to that effect came from the Assad regime. The weapons that were given to anti-Assad groups were rifles, mortars, RPG's and most notably, the BGM-71 TOW missile. I repeat, there were NO chemical or bio weapons given to any anti-Assad military group.

As for Theodore Postol. His theories, and they are nothing more than that, have often been debunked by the scientific and military analyst communities. Even when he has attempted to publish, he does not make his findings available for peer review. He is often criticized for "working backwards" to establish a model that fits his theories. Specifically with respect to the Ghouta and Khan Shaykun chemical attacks, these attacks were thoroughly investigated. Postol and others were to publish an article in Science and Global Security which tried to discredit the findings of the UN investigation of the Khan Shaykun attack. However, the Bellingcat Group, reviewed the Postol report and found it to be inaccurate and inconsistent with the facts of the chemical attack. As a result, Science and Global Security decided not to publish the report.

There is no agency beyond the Syrian government or Russian Defense Ministry that claims these attacks did not come from the Syrian government.

As for Ms. Gabbard, and the so-called US bio weapons labs in Ukraine. This theory you espouse is pure Russian propaganda, made popular by Tucker Carlson, QAnon and Gabbard. In fact, there are labs that do research on diseases. But these are for advancing public health in post-Soviet countries. But these theories have been going around since the early 2000's - that Ukraine may unleash a bio attack on Russia. This is one of the major explanations from Russia as their impetus to invade. There was also a theory advanced by Russia that Hunter Biden and George Soros had control or vested interest in these companies. Pure Russia propaganda that resonates with MAGA in the US.

And finally we get to Victoria Nuland. The testimony you speak of was given at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee meeting. Here's what she said when questioned by Little Marco:

"Nuland affirmed that Ukraine has "biological research facilities" and that the U.S. is concerned that Russian forces may seek to gain control of them. Nuland also stated, "There is no doubt in my mind" that if a biological weapon is used in Ukraine, it would be the work of Russia, not Ukraine or its allies."

But Tucker heard things differently. He then went on to advance the conspiracy theory that the US was making bio weapons and Ukraine was going to unleash them onto Russia.

And as far as I can tell, England and France didn't invade Ukraine. Nor have they tried to influence US lawmakers or been caught influencing the media or social media. Only the Russians have been caught doing this. Once again, the symbiosis of Russian propaganda and Fox, NewMax is stunningly clear.
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

if you want things to be different you sometimes need to pick people with unconventional Bios.




True. Sometimes you do get big changes.
They may just not be the changes you thought you were getting.


…Each generation needs to learn its own lessons for itself.

Please keep the Ukraine content in the Ukraine thread.

It took Hitler just six weeks to arrive in Paris. Did you know that?
Yes, many French were collaborating with Hitler, sympathetic to his anti-Jew attacks. This became known as "Vichy", after the French town where the government was run 1940-44.

Did you know that?

Yes, I saw it on a Netflix special a few years ago. It did not mention that France had over half a million killed and over a million soldiers POWed.

Good add. And they were all Democrats, I mean, part of La Resistance.

DiabloWags
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Tulsi is a joke.
Gaetz is a joke.
RFK Jr is a joke.
Noem is a joke.
Hegseth is a joke.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
HawaiiBear33
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DW believes all the lies

Watch this to cheer up

Big C
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DiabloWags said:

Tulsi is a joke.
Gaetz is a joke.
RFK Jr is a joke.
Noem is a joke.
Hegseth is a joke.

The five of 'em are up there with, "Take my wife... please!"
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When I was perusing the threads on this board and I saw the title of this one, I was reminded of that old trick where you're eating in a Chinese restaurant and they pass out the fortune cookies and everybody reads theirs out loud... and then adds
" ,,, in bed" at the end.
concordtom
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Big C said:

DiabloWags said:

Tulsi is a joke.
Gaetz is a joke.
RFK Jr is a joke.
Noem is a joke.
Hegseth is a joke.

The five of 'em are up there with, "Take my wife... please!"

Although, Noem and Hegseth could produce some pretty good looking children.

Central Casting Cabinet.
And Gaetz is The Joker.
philly1121
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Tom, one of the requirements of being in the Trump Admin is likely cheating on your spouse.

Noem had an affair with Corey Lewendowski
Hegseth had multiple affairs while married to his 1st and 2nd wives
RFK Jr. had multiple affairs while married to his first wife. And now with that reporter Olivia Nuzzi
Gaetz - well there's no evidence he cheated on his current wife, allegations of sex with a 17 year old fit the bill
Tulsi - no evidence she cheated but she's on marriage #2

Anyways, a masterclass of morality.
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philly1121 said:

Tom, one of the requirements of being in the Trump Admin is likely cheating on your spouse.

Noem had an affair with Corey Lewendowski
Hegseth had multiple affairs while married to his 1st and 2nd wives
RFK Jr. had multiple affairs while married to his first wife. And now with that reporter Olivia Nuzzi
Gaetz - well there's no evidence he cheated on his current wife, allegations of sex with a 17 year old fit the bill
Tulsi - no evidence she cheated but she's on marriage #2

Anyways, a masterclass of morality.


If a requirement of being in the trump admin is cheating on your spouse, why are you naming two people as examples of such who seem to have not cheated on their spouse?
philly1121
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ok, take them out. Still, Hegseth, Noem and RFK Jr. are enough don't you think?

And Gaetz isn't much of a model of upstanding character, right? Come on now.
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philly1121 said:

ok, take them out. Still, Hegseth, Noem and RFK Jr. are enough don't you think?

And Gaetz isn't much of a model of upstanding character, right? Come on now.


I definitely wouldn't want any of my relatives to marry anybody in the Trump administration, unless they were only in it for the money, which would be dubious.
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Bari Weiss, formerly of the New York Times, had no idea that Joe Rogan likes Tulsi and gave Weiss an opportunity to explain herself.
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HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies



Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:

"Some of the statements she has made through the years that sound like they came right out of the Kremlin's talking points paper are a little bit alarming," he said, according to The Hill. "Her cozying up to Bashar al Assad and being an apologist for him as well just raise questions in my mind."

"Is that really the best person to put in charge of this very complicated, very sensitive operation that is the US intel community?" he asked.

"She's never managed anything larger than a congressional office or maybe like a brigade," he added. "That's a lot different than trying to orchestrate and coordinate this wild consultation of intel elements that we call the US intelligence community. I think she isn't really prepared for that."

Opinion | Tulsi Gabbard is not fit to be the director of national intelligence - The Washington Post
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies



Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:


In other words, a consummate serial liar and advocate for Mideast Forever Wars.

Tulsi's main attributes qualifying her for this job is that she is neither of those, it's that simple.
bear2034
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The Ukraine war has turned out to be the Biden administration's number one priority, foreign or domestic, let's not kid ourselves. Anyone who has publicly disagreed with the current regime's policies has been labeled a Russian asset. As David Sacks said, being labeled a Russian asset is worse than being labeled a racist as bad as that is because treason is a punishable crime. Where did all this Russian asset talk originate? From a former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, duh.
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DiabloWags said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies
Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:

Oh yeah, Larry Pfeiffer is one of the 51 former intel officials who signed the letter claiming Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. Why do you keep listening to these people?
DiabloWags
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Gabbard has never managed anything more than an office staff.

Next thing you'll be telling us is that Gaetz will be an awesome appointment for AG.

A self-promoting featherweight disliked by 98% of his colleagues and towing a steamer trunk of skeletons is a foolish pick indeed.

Its the kind of choice that makes even true supporters wonder how easily Trump is gulled by Twitter flash.
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies



Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:


In other words, a consummate serial liar and advocate for Mideast Forever Wars.

Tulsi's main attributes qualifying her for this job is that she is neither of those, it's that simple.


Who was the poster that discredited the betting sites that predicted a Trump victory?
philly1121
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies



Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:


In other words, a consummate serial liar and advocate for Mideast Forever Wars.

Tulsi's main attributes qualifying her for this job is that she is neither of those, it's that simple.
88, you're a true believer. God bless you.

You never answered me in my response to you on Tulsi, Nuland and that lazy scholar Theodore Postol. Your lack of any researched response is telling and a bit scary since you acquiesce and rely on disinformation without thought to look a bit deeper than Wikipedia. Have fun at the game tho! See if we can beat Cuse.
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You are still lapping up every crumb of misinformation they throw at you. The corruption is so deep and funded by trillions of stolen taxpayer money. Wake up! You can do it. It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. Be strong
HawaiiBear33
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Another ringing endorsement for Tulsi…Brennan doesn't want her



Cal88
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philly1121 said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

DW believes all the lies



Larry Pfeiffer, former Chief of Staff at the CIA under George W Bush:


In other words, a consummate serial liar and advocate for Mideast Forever Wars.

Tulsi's main attributes qualifying her for this job is that she is neither of those, it's that simple.
88, you're a true believer. God bless you.

You never answered me in my response to you on Tulsi, Nuland and that lazy scholar Theodore Postol. Your lack of any researched response is telling and a bit scary since you acquiesce and rely on disinformation without thought to look a bit deeper than Wikipedia. Have fun at the game tho! See if we can beat Cuse.


I haven't replied right away because your long post is strewn with bad assumptions based on a poor understanding of the facts and an unquestioning reliance on the official narrative. You believe for example that NATO and proxies' funding for the jihadis stopped in 2017, while these groups were still active to this day, ISIS is still around within areas controlled by the US (Tanf and northeast of Syria) and Turkey (Idlib region).

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As for Theodore Postol. His theories, and they are nothing more than that, have often been debunked by the scientific and military analyst communities. Even when he has attempted to publish, he does not make his findings available for peer review. He is often criticized for "working backwards" to establish a model that fits his theories. Specifically with respect to the Ghouta and Khan Shaykun chemical attacks, these attacks were thoroughly investigated. Postol and others were to publish an article in Science and Global Security which tried to discredit the findings of the UN investigation of the Khan Shaykun attack. However, the Bellingcat Group, reviewed the Postol report and found it to be inaccurate and inconsistent with the facts of the chemical attack. As a result, Science and Global Security decided not to publish the report.

Postol's qualifications dwarf those of Elliot Higgins and his Bellingcat crew, that entity is an MI6-connected agency, staffed by people who have deep state/intel background and little in terms of technical expertise. It is also funded by the main protagonists in the dirty war on Syria, US/NATO, Saudis, Qatar, UAE etc who also fund the fanatical jihadis there.



https://www.mintpressnews.com/bellingcat-intelligence-agencies-launders-talking-points-media/276603/

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There is no agency beyond the Syrian government or Russian Defense Ministry that claims these attacks did not come from the Syrian government.



Your defense of Nuland is entirely disingenuous:
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"Nuland affirmed that Ukraine has "biological research facilities" and that the U.S. is concerned that Russian forces may seek to gain control of them. Nuland also stated, "There is no doubt in my mind" that if a biological weapon is used in Ukraine, it would be the work of Russia, not Ukraine or its allies."

But Tucker heard things differently. He then went on to advance the conspiracy theory that the US was making bio weapons and Ukraine was going to unleash them onto Russia.

Nuland did confirm that Ukraine had a biolab research facilities. Kiev's post-Maidan coup government is very deeply dependent on NATO, if not an outright proxy regime, much like South Vietnam or the Afghan government were dependent on the US. Zelensky and others have stated they would seek nuclear weapons, have used chemical weapons on Russians and conducted terror attacks inside Russia targeting civilians.


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And as far as I can tell, England and France didn't invade Ukraine. Nor have they tried to influence US lawmakers or been caught influencing the media or social media. Only the Russians have been caught doing this. Once again, the symbiosis of Russian propaganda and Fox, NewMax is stunningly clear.

UK, France, the US and the rest of NATO did take over Ukraine by backing radical Bandera nationalists since WW2 initially as a tool against the USSR, and later, in a much bigger campaign the 2000s, against Russia, the same way they backed radical Chechen islamists against Russia.

And Russia never did interfere in US elections on the same scale of the UK's recent interference in the elections. Or on the same scale that we interfere in their elections.


 
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