sycasey said:
LunchTime said:
AunBear89 said:
Four more years of:
President Trump:
* Promised to cut the deficit but added $8 trillion to it.
* Promised to build a wall; completed only 458 miles out of 2,000, mostly repairs.
* Promised Mexico would pay for the wall; they didn't.
* Promised a new healthcare plan; it never existed.
* Promised a middle-class tax cut; primarily cut taxes for the rich, leaving the middle class to bear the burden.
* Promised not to play golf; made 250 visits to his own golf clubs, costing taxpayers $150 million.
* Promised to increase economic growth by 4%; didn't achieve it, President Biden did.
* Promised an infrastructure plan; had none, President Biden signed a massive one.
* Promised to hire "the best people"; fired 3/4 of them, then labeled them the worst.
* Promised to reduce prescription drug prices; didn't happen, President Biden did.
* Promised to win the trade war with China; it cost about a quarter million jobs.
* Promised corporate tax cuts would benefit workers; corporations used the money to buy back stocks instead.
* Promised to revive the coal industry; more coal jobs were lost during his presidency.
* Promised to drain the swamp; He was the swamp, January 6th insurrection and his Fake Electors conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election proves it.
* Promised to release his tax return, didn't.
The only group Democrats made progress with is white men and women (+1 and +2%) and people with a Bachelor's... They maintained the margin for people who have graduate degrees.
The only increase for Democrats was rich white people.
Democrats lost ground with every single other demographic. Literally.
Just think about what party you are backing, and what demographics you think you are fighting. Democrats can gaslight all they want, but the policies they are pushing are only bringing over rich white people.
Maybe... Just spit balling, to win, look at why all those people switched to Trump. It's not ignorance, it's not bigotry (unless minorities are the new white supremacists)... It's because Democrats have abandoned their platform in favor of extreme progressivism.
Out of curiosity, what do you think should be in the new Democratic platform that was not before?
I believe Democrats lost for two reasons.
People are less safe.
People have less money, while the rich got richer.
1. Safety is an absolute responsibility of the government. Democrats gave away this issue by siding with criminals, often directly.
The claim that criminals are victims is insane. victims of criminals are victims. And turning this issue upside down disproportionately impacts the groups Democrats lost so much ground with.
California is a great place to see this. Prop 36, Pamala Price, Gascon. Californian's, in progressive cities and a pretty strong blue state dont just see statistics. They aren't buying the Philly style gaslighting about how crime is actually not bad at all.
Look. I have been victimized more by crime since the "defund" movement than I have my entire life, and its not even close. When my kid was about 2 months old, a homeless man grabbed him out of my stroller and I had to literally FIGHT him to get my kid back. I am not billy bad ass, and a lot of people could get their kid back in that situation, but why do I have to fight someone over keeping my kid in my control to go to first Friday? Police couldnt arrest him because he had gone into an "encampment" and are prevented from entering encampments without warrants. I had a knife pulled on me on BART and thankfully only stabbed someone else in the throat. I have had to buy 15 new mailboxes because they break the lock to take mail. My car has had windows replaced 7 times. My wheels were ripped off. That all pales compared to my two year old having a gun put to his head because someone wanted my nannys phone. In a county where the DA drops enhancements for murdered toddlers (actual plural, sadly). Not only is there potential of being a much worse outcome, but the opportunity for justice is near zero.
I grew up in Oakland. In the 1980s. I have been the victim of crimes. But the frequency of being victimized, the brazenness of doing it in daytime with witnesses taking pictures, and no consequences is not solved by "akshually, crime is down" gaslighting. No its not. Its down from a couple years ago, but up massively from before these policies. And California democrats voted to undo some of it...
2. Economy, stupid.
Inflation being down from the highs is not a win. Housing prices, if you take into account a 5% down and mortgage rates, since the 1960s, has been about the same percentage of the median income. When Biden exploded the economy, houses, for the first time in generations, actually became unaffordable. Not just sticker shock,
but percentage of income needed to pay the mortgage. (all are from Jan of inauguration year to September of election year, which is the most recent month available) Under trump prices changed 7%. Under Obama they changed 10% in the first four years, and 5% in the second four.
Biden was 21%
Inflation being "normal" in the last quarter is a nice way to gaslight you into thinking that you didnt just get ****ed. Imagine if Trump started burning twice as much coal every year for 3 years, and then JUST settled in for the 4th year, and telling climate activists that coal consumption is actually not growing.
But thats not all... Democrats turned their back on Americans and then told them it was the strongest economy ever.
From the peak of pre-covid employment, American born workers have
LOST 873k jobs. Foreign born workers have
gained 3.744m jobs. Literally more than every job Biden "created" were not filled by Americans.
But its not JUST that all the job creation went to foreign born workers. Because of TERRIBLE border policy, foreign born labor has a
HIGHER unemployment rate now...
For real income, Obama's first four were a loss of 1.8%. His second four were a gain of 11%. Trumps was a 7% gain. Biden is about .5% for far
And who got that? SOMEHOW,
share of the .1% stabilized under Obama, shrank under Trump, exploded under Biden. Blame Trump, but his tax cuts drove the share of taxes paid by the 1% to the highest levels levels we've seen. Quite a magic trick to give tax breaks to the rich while getting them to pay more.
And they tell you their policies arent just working, its that you are too stupid to recognize how great things are. The gaslighting is so deep, most of the people parroting have no idea people are having a harder time. They dismiss those people as believing right wing conspiracies. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears." They sit on TV, on the stump, in this thread and tell you to believe them, not what you see. They obfuscate evidence and make you believe that looking at it is bad.
The reason "Lets Go Brandon" became such a wide reaching meme is because the entire apparatus is so hamfistingly obvious in their gaslighting that that the crowd chanting "**** Joe Biden" actually saying "Lets Go Brandon" is too perfect an example of their methods.
Drop the divisive identity politics, and embrace governance. You can keep the social policy. If people are prospering they wont care. But Democrats SERIOUSLY ****ed up the bread part of of placating the populous.
The problem is Democrats have policies people like that they attack trump for.
Like tariffs on China. But they give that point to Trump for some reason, instead of owning it an the impact it will have, saying "Yeah, no ****, us too."
Its just too obvious if you have any intellectual honesty at all. Take the politics out (and I am 100% sure you will by saying Trumps economy was Obamas, Obamas was Obamas, Bidens was Trumps, etc) and you will agree the numbers are dog***** But for some reason you take the path of gaslighting that they arent instead of telling people "yeah, that is dog****, we agree"
