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You conspired to block Bernie.
You discarded and defamed @TulsiGabbard
You didn't invite @elonmusk to a summit on electric vehicles?
You blocked @RobertKennedyJr and others from having any path to make their cause in a primary.
You embraced wokeism and identity politics, demonizing the evil, white cisgender male population, extra scorn for those who have attained financial wealth.
You further insult them by telling them that they didn't vote for Kamala because they are racist and mysogonist.
You then anointed the most unpopular VP of all time and tried to gaslight us into thinking she is the next coming because Meg Stallion shook her ass on stage to get the vote out becauseā¦. "Joy"
What exactly did you expect would happen?
These are your sins. Will you learn from them? Or continue to repeat them?
America has spoken, and they are not buying what the @DNC is selling.
Wake up call.
Excellent rant.
Democrats before: Vote, our democracy is at stake
Democrats after: Voters are dumb
Democrats after: Voters are dumb
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
Cal88 said:
The one on the left colluded with Russia but only had to pay a $83,000 fine.
The one on the right is hung over from a long night of drinking box wine.
James Carville on how Sunny Hostin ended Kamala Harris' campaign:
— Eric Abbenante (@EricAbbenante) November 8, 2024
"When we go back and history unearths this, it's going to be right there on the View.
Sunny Hostin, Houston, whatever asked the question. That's the most devastating answer you can imagine."
Thank you Sunny Hostinā¦ pic.twitter.com/rtiDCzSECV
Kamala's campaign reduced to a single moment:
Would you have done something differently than Joe Biden? - Sunny Hostin, The View
"There is not a thing that comes to mind". - Kamala
Its this generation's version of the Ted Kennedy interview moment (before my time but I studied it in Pol Sci).bear2034 said:James Carville on how Sunny Hostin ended Kamala Harris' campaign:
— Eric Abbenante (@EricAbbenante) November 8, 2024
"When we go back and history unearths this, it's going to be right there on the View.
Sunny Hostin, Houston, whatever asked the question. That's the most devastating answer you can imagine."
Thank you Sunny Hostinā¦ pic.twitter.com/rtiDCzSECV
Kamala's campaign reduced to a single moment:
Would you have done something differently than Joe Biden? - Sunny Hostin, The View
"There is not a thing that comes to mind". - Kamala
Sunny asked a fair question but could have asked it differently instead of putting Kamala in an awkward position of having to criticize her current boss. The Trump campaign used the clip for a commercial ad and the rest is history. What did Ted Kennedy say?
That's not untrue, tho. And tho its too early to tell about democracy, we do know that GeoGroup and Core Civic are all up around 46%. Roundups and detentions are coming boys! And who's ready for the newly created Department of Crypto? Wait wait wait. Sorry, no department for that. It would mean regulation.Anarchistbear said:
Democrats before: Vote, our democracy is at stake
Democrats after: Voters are dumb
Who's ready for a military parade down Pennsylvania Avenue?
Hey, walkerswood is good stuff! Do some olive oil, mix it with the jerk seasoning. Put that on a chicken or steak. money!
You conspired to block Bernie.
The Dem establishment blocked Bernie. But this always cracks me up and is about as disengenuous as it can get. No way any conservative is going to vote Bernie. Bernie is an avowed socialist. Harris isn't.
You discarded and defamed @TulsiGabbard
Oh Tulsi. If she was only as charismatic as that puppy killer. Tulsi did it to herself by having her biggest donor be Elena Branson, a Putin ally and apologist. So funny that you're blaming Dems for that.
You didn't invite @elonmusk to a summit on electric vehicles?
Nuff said about this.
You blocked @RobertKennedyJr and others from having any path to make their cause in a primary.
You seriously think RFK is a Dem? Dude is a loon. disavowed by his own family. Keeps roadkill in his freezer, had a tapeworm in his brain, sexually assaulted a babysitter. Movielover, did you enter the sweepstakes to fly a falcon with him? Our next Secretary of HHS.
You embraced wokeism and identity politics, demonizing the evil, white cisgender male population, extra scorn for those who have attained financial wealth.
Agree with most of this except demonizing white males. That whole population has gone whiny beeyatch overnight. What happened? Not sure about the scorn for attained wealth. Shouldn't the 1% pay a higher tax rate?
You further insult them by telling them that they didn't vote for Kamala because they are racist and mysogonist.
This is true tho. Though no one will admit it. You have Mexico - the capital of Machismo - electing a female president. US can't do it. But I love seeing white women cry. Yes, a Latino and a Black man can be racist. And white women
You then anointed the most unpopular VP of all time and tried to gaslight us into thinking she is the next coming because Meg Stallion shook her ass on stage to get the vote out becauseā¦. "Joy"
Hard choice here. Biden couldn't do it. So what do we do? This is the way politics works. I remember the press asking Gavin Newsom if he was going to jump in. He said no. She is the heir apparent. Nothing we could do.
What exactly did you expect would happen?
I expected the race to be closer but ultimately people want to go back to pre pandemic 2019. Those are the vibes.
These are your sins. Will you learn from them? Or continue to repeat them?
These aren't sins. Well I'm sure you think they are since you got the KJV under your arm. They're miscues. Misreads. Reliance on minority groups that do not vote as blocks.
America has spoken, and they are not buying what the @DNC is selling. True this!
Wake up call.
Just wait. #DTLEYF
Hey I was going to ask Roevember this but I'll ask you. Did you review your wife's ballot before she sent it in?
The Dem establishment blocked Bernie. But this always cracks me up and is about as disengenuous as it can get. No way any conservative is going to vote Bernie. Bernie is an avowed socialist. Harris isn't.
You discarded and defamed @TulsiGabbard
Oh Tulsi. If she was only as charismatic as that puppy killer. Tulsi did it to herself by having her biggest donor be Elena Branson, a Putin ally and apologist. So funny that you're blaming Dems for that.
You didn't invite @elonmusk to a summit on electric vehicles?
Nuff said about this.
You blocked @RobertKennedyJr and others from having any path to make their cause in a primary.
You seriously think RFK is a Dem? Dude is a loon. disavowed by his own family. Keeps roadkill in his freezer, had a tapeworm in his brain, sexually assaulted a babysitter. Movielover, did you enter the sweepstakes to fly a falcon with him? Our next Secretary of HHS.
You embraced wokeism and identity politics, demonizing the evil, white cisgender male population, extra scorn for those who have attained financial wealth.
Agree with most of this except demonizing white males. That whole population has gone whiny beeyatch overnight. What happened? Not sure about the scorn for attained wealth. Shouldn't the 1% pay a higher tax rate?
You further insult them by telling them that they didn't vote for Kamala because they are racist and mysogonist.
This is true tho. Though no one will admit it. You have Mexico - the capital of Machismo - electing a female president. US can't do it. But I love seeing white women cry. Yes, a Latino and a Black man can be racist. And white women
You then anointed the most unpopular VP of all time and tried to gaslight us into thinking she is the next coming because Meg Stallion shook her ass on stage to get the vote out becauseā¦. "Joy"
Hard choice here. Biden couldn't do it. So what do we do? This is the way politics works. I remember the press asking Gavin Newsom if he was going to jump in. He said no. She is the heir apparent. Nothing we could do.
What exactly did you expect would happen?
I expected the race to be closer but ultimately people want to go back to pre pandemic 2019. Those are the vibes.
These are your sins. Will you learn from them? Or continue to repeat them?
These aren't sins. Well I'm sure you think they are since you got the KJV under your arm. They're miscues. Misreads. Reliance on minority groups that do not vote as blocks.
America has spoken, and they are not buying what the @DNC is selling. True this!
Wake up call.
Just wait. #DTLEYF
Hey I was going to ask Roevember this but I'll ask you. Did you review your wife's ballot before she sent it in?
It appears @MarkHalperin original reporting was right. Pelosi's plan was for an open primary, but Biden stuck it to the establishment who threw him out by endorsing Kamala 30 minutes after dropping out.
— Corey Inganamort šŖš“šŖ (@TheBirdWords) November 8, 2024
This is why Obamaworld, Schumer etc were so late to endorse.. they didn'tā¦ https://t.co/eNOa1krhKl
Obama and Pelosi wanted an open primary. Biden refused and was ousted. Democrats got stuck with Kamala. One big mess up.
Kamala reportedly spent $100,000+ on building a set for her appearance on Call Her Daddy.
— Jerry Dunleavy IV šŗšø (@JerryDunleavy) November 8, 2024
Here is the set in question: https://t.co/rqH1yOtRS3 pic.twitter.com/jm1RmYFYbx
The Kamala campaign is $20 million in debt.
You might win the award for Most Useless Vote of 2024.Quote:
My wife and my daughter both voted for Kamala. I don't tell other people how to vote. That's what Democrats do.
I voted for Jill Stein.
So Charlie Kirk, Mike Cernovich didn't tell MAGA husbands to watch their wives. And Jesse Watters. Said if his wife voted for Kamala it would be akin to an affair. A violation of their marriage. The nerve. The guy that cheated on his first wife with a 25 year old coworker. MAGA values.
philly1121 said:You might win the award for Most Useless Vote of 2024.Quote:
My wife and my daughter both voted for Kamala. I don't tell other people how to vote. That's what Democrats do.
I voted for Jill Stein.
So Charlie Kirk, Mike Cernovich didn't tell MAGA husbands to watch their wives. And Jesse Watters. Said if his wife voted for Kamala it would be akin to an affair. A violation of their marriage. The nerve. The guy that cheated on his first wife with a 25 year old coworker. MAGA values.
Didn't kamala's husband diddle the babysitter? Hypocrisy.
philly1121 said:That's not untrue, tho. And tho its too early to tell about democracy, we do know that GeoGroup and Core Civic are all up around 46%. Roundups and detentions are coming boys! And who's ready for the newly created Department of Crypto? Wait wait wait. Sorry, no department for that. It would mean regulation.Anarchistbear said:
Democrats before: Vote, our democracy is at stake
Democrats after: Voters are dumb
Who's ready for a military parade down Pennsylvania Avenue?
First they came for our heirloom tomatoes and we said nothing
Then they took away our high thread count sheets and we were silent
Finally they came for our gardeners and cleaning ladies.. but, hey, I'm a knowledge worker and special
Don't forget about our gas ovens!
Here you go.
Trump Got Away With It Because of the Biden Administration's Massive Missteps
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/07/trump-legal-failures-blame-column-00187945
Trump Got Away With It Because of the Biden Administration's Massive Missteps
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/07/trump-legal-failures-blame-column-00187945
Classic whataboutism. What a bunch of liars, hypocrites, and morons.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
I love how Roevember and others are constantly posting Twitter posts, justifying their vote. See! She shoved Joe out of the way and look what happened! As if any of them cared or predicted this.AunBear89 said:
Classic whataboutism. What a bunch of liars, hypocrites, and morons.
This is interesting to me because I can't get one of them to admit anything about Project 2025. I can't get 003 to admit that Kamala has legal recourse to remand the electoral college counts back to state legislatures.
I don't mind the football being spiked but at least own what got you the W.
"Look what we have done to young people...We better start thinking about this. You can't just ignore it." @RubinReport
— The Rubin Report (@RubinReportShow) November 7, 2024
Mark Halperin sat down with Tucker and said that Trump's presidency will lead to the greatest mental health crisis in U.S. history. pic.twitter.com/LeE8K5jPss
Mark Halperin predicts a massive mental health crisis in this country if Trump wins which will result in violent protests and a disconnection from society.
Do you agree with Bernie Sanders here? pic.twitter.com/6scjv0zSZ5
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) November 10, 2024
I do.
No, not exactly.
What else is a Socialist going to say?
D's did plenty of stuff purportedly to help the working class. 70% of people said the economy was bad and we are headed in the wrong direction. Official economic reports to the contrary, they didn't perceive the measures worked. It was time for a change.
If we change the question to be "undemocratic" and "beholden to their oligarchs" (instead of an economic class question), then yes, I agree with that. Going back to rigging the process for HRC vs Bern up through executing a coup against a sitting President, the D party is politically corrupt in a way that works against working class people.
What else is a Socialist going to say?
D's did plenty of stuff purportedly to help the working class. 70% of people said the economy was bad and we are headed in the wrong direction. Official economic reports to the contrary, they didn't perceive the measures worked. It was time for a change.
If we change the question to be "undemocratic" and "beholden to their oligarchs" (instead of an economic class question), then yes, I agree with that. Going back to rigging the process for HRC vs Bern up through executing a coup against a sitting President, the D party is politically corrupt in a way that works against working class people.
So he won and y'all still doing sock puppetry ?
Tell someone you love them and try to have a good day
Thank you! I suppose you can call it gloating. That's fine. Spiking the football? Yeah, ok. I'd have done the same.
But they still seem to be in election mode. Convincing. Believing. Electioneering. Telling themselves it will be ok. I mean, ok. 003 can't even answer one simple question. A "yes" would confirm his belief system. Instead, he's a shambles.
But they still seem to be in election mode. Convincing. Believing. Electioneering. Telling themselves it will be ok. I mean, ok. 003 can't even answer one simple question. A "yes" would confirm his belief system. Instead, he's a shambles.
tequila4kapp said:
No, not exactly.
What else is a Socialist going to say?
D's did plenty of stuff purportedly to help the working class. 70% of people said the economy was bad and we are headed in the wrong direction. Official economic reports to the contrary, they didn't perceive the measures worked. It was time for a change.
If we change the question to be "undemocratic" and "beholden to their oligarchs" (instead of an economic class question), then yes, I agree with that. Going back to rigging the process for HRC vs Bern up through executing a coup against a sitting President, the D party is politically corrupt in a way that works against working class people.
A socialist is a rich person who convinces poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that other rich people are the reason they're poor. The middle class suffers.
Peggy Noonan
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-triumph-for-trumps-republicans-election-2024-america-becoming-more-conservative-048e54c5?st=araEMd&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-triumph-for-trumps-republicans-election-2024-america-becoming-more-conservative-048e54c5?st=araEMd&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
philly1121 said:
Thank you! I suppose you can call it gloating. That's fine. Spiking the football? Yeah, ok. I'd have done the same.
But they still seem to be in election mode. Convincing. Believing. Electioneering. Telling themselves it will be ok. I mean, ok. 003 can't even answer one simple question. A "yes" would confirm his belief system. Instead, he's a shambles.
The Biden-Kamala administration has two months left to figure out how to close the border.
Interesting read, thanks for sharing. I think this is about exactly right:DiabloWags said:
Peggy Noonan
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-triumph-for-trumps-republicans-election-2024-america-becoming-more-conservative-048e54c5?st=araEMd&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
"When I was a kid (Democrats) were the party of the working man, the little guy. That's the Trumpian GOP now. When I was a young woman they were the antiwar party. That's the Trumpian GOP. The party of generous spending? The Trumpian party says hold my beer. What belief do the Democrats hold that distinguishes them? LGBTQ, woke, gender theory, teachers unions, higher taxes?"
which paradoxically disproves her argument that America is moving more Conservative. It is more correct to say Trump is transforming the R party, arguably toward the masses.
I think its Biden-Harris. Well, its like I saw on Twitter a few minutes ago. Some dude from Florida, voted for Trump but as luck would have it, he's some gusano that came here in 1959. When he tried to get Social Security benefits, he was denied because he isn't legal. Funny that. I think we need to put him in the camp first. Or at least deport him. We can't have an illegal on the dole.
What say you 34?
What say you 34?
I thought you were taking a break? You really should.philly1121 said:
I think its Biden-Harris. Well, its like I saw on Twitter a few minutes ago. Some dude from Florida, voted for Trump but as luck would have it, he's some gusano that came here in 1959. When he tried to get Social Security benefits, he was denied because he isn't legal. Funny that. I think we need to put him in the camp first. Or at least deport him. We can't have an illegal on the dole.
What say you 34?
Peggy Noonan is usually on point.tequila4kapp said:Interesting read, thanks for sharing. I think this is about exactly right:DiabloWags said:
Peggy Noonan
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-triumph-for-trumps-republicans-election-2024-america-becoming-more-conservative-048e54c5?st=araEMd&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
"When I was a kid (Democrats) were the party of the working man, the little guy. That's the Trumpian GOP now. When I was a young woman they were the antiwar party. That's the Trumpian GOP. The party of generous spending? The Trumpian party says hold my beer. What belief do the Democrats hold that distinguishes them? LGBTQ, woke, gender theory, teachers unions, higher taxes?"
which paradoxically disproves her argument that America is moving more Conservative. It is more correct to say Trump is transforming the R party, arguably toward the masses.
The part I noticed:
"This year I felt people would be choosing a path, not a person . . . I think that's what happened. Tens of millions of people who didn't like Donald Trump voted for the path he promised."
I think that's dead on. And it is something people with TDS refuse to acknowledge.
I also think Trump's victory or "mandate' is a bit overstated. Had the Dems run a better candidate, he very well could have lost. And by "better" I mean one that was either more likeable or more centrist (or both). Even Newsome (burdened by California's leftist agenda) would have done better simply because he's much more likeable and a better retail politician. Obama won mostly on likability and charisma, though his platform was much more centrist than Kamala's.
The other point not mentioned is that Trump has essentially mooted the tea party element of the republican party. That may not be the best thing when it comes to deficits . . . but on the whole it moved the republicans to the center.
That's the other thread. So Goggles - should we deport? Yes, right? He's here illegally. He voted illegally. He tried to get benefits. That's fraud.
Deport, right? Please just say yes.
Deport, right? Please just say yes.
Generally agree.BearGoggles said:
Peggy Noonan is usually on point.
The part I noticed:
"This year I felt people would be choosing a path, not a person . . . I think that's what happened. Tens of millions of people who didn't like Donald Trump voted for the path he promised."
I think that's dead on. And it is something people with TDS refuse to acknowledge.
I also think Trump's victory or "mandate' is a bit overstated. Had the Dems run a better candidate, he very well could have lost. And by "better" I mean one that was either more likeable or more centrist (or both). Even Newsome (burdened by California's leftist agenda) would have done better simply because he's much more likeable and a better retail politician. Obama won mostly on likability and charisma, though his platform was much more centrist than Kamala's.
The other point not mentioned is that Trump has essentially mooted the tea party element of the republican party. That may not be the best thing when it comes to deficits . . . but on the whole it moved the republicans to the center.
We need to remember that 70% thought the economy was bad and we are headed in the wrong direction. That's path, not person.
I thought Harris was a weak choice and ran a bad campaign. I hoped they'd pick a more obvious centrist. Pelosi and Obama apparently expected a quick open primary - which at least would have been more democratic, even if Harris was the choice. But given the 70% number this was always going to be a tough election for the D candidate.
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