HKBear97! said:

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LudwigsFountain said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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The problem wasn't the messaging; the problem was the product. Nobody wants what the Dems are selling.

Virtually nobody

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False statement.

72,372,902 votes (48.1%)
and growing, as #1 population state CA votes continue to be counted.



-misinformation police

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Context ... I don't know who was buying what she was selling except "I'm not as bad as trump"

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As I said, 72,372,902 votes (48.1%).
That's who.

Update: 73,115,813 votes , 48.2%

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I was curious what things looked like outside of California and New York and was surprised by result. I knew it would have a big effect, but without them, Trump won the popular vote by 6.8 million. In 2020 Biden and Trump were essentially tied without these two. That happened because of the 8 million + votes the Democrats 'lost' in 2024, 7.1 million were in CA and NY. The pro Trump impact of Texas and Florida was substantially less.

Have no idea what this means; maybe less focus on the 'sure' states. I guess without the electoral college the campaigning would basically happen in CA, NY, FL and TX

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Personally, my takeaway is I honestly question the true voter support for the Democrats current platform. I don't understand how so many supposed voters for Harris just disappeared from 2020. Moreover, the fact that the majority of the Democratic support came from states without voter ID laws is concerning. To me, that implies the current 73 million Harris vote tally is likely somewhat inflated.

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Did you insert into your calculus the fact she ran for like 100 days, and is a woman who some do not perceive as capable?

Otherwise, brilliant logic, everyone who added on here!

HKBear97! said:

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concordtom said:

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HKBear97! said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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The problem wasn't the messaging; the problem was the product. Nobody wants what the Dems are selling.

Virtually nobody

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False statement.

72,372,902 votes (48.1%)
and growing, as #1 population state CA votes continue to be counted.



-misinformation police

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Context ... I don't know who was buying what she was selling except "I'm not as bad as trump"

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As I said, 72,372,902 votes (48.1%).
That's who.

Update: 73,115,813 votes , 48.2%

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I do find this amusing because I made the same case in 2020 when 74.2 million people voted for Trump, but the media and many liberals where I live kept saying nobody wanted Trump. I suppose the hashtag #notmypresident will be returning then?

By the way, does no one find it odd that Harris is missing nearly 8 million votes that went to Biden in 2020? Where did those go? And oddity #2, the only states Harris won required no voter ID. Very strange indeed.

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Gosh, you must be on to something.
Biden cheated, right?

Pffft.

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Probably not worth responding since you clearly have your views, but I originally did not subscribe to the idea that 2020 was stolen. Now, seeing the numbers and results after there was a renewed focus on election integrity, I do believe the Democratic Party manipulated votes in 2020 and I imagine did so again in states where voter IDs are not required.

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1, There was a huge Dem voter turnout in 2020 to stop Trump. This was back when he was fresh on everybody's mind, wondering if people ingesting disinfectant would help against COVID. This year, he got the nostalgia vote, for those inclined to vote for him. Others stayed home.

2. States where ID is not required (I'm in favor of IDs to vote, btw) tend to be the very blue states.

HKBear97! said:

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concordtom said:

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HKBear97! said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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concordtom said:

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going4roses said:

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The problem wasn't the messaging; the problem was the product. Nobody wants what the Dems are selling.

Virtually nobody

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False statement.

72,372,902 votes (48.1%)
and growing, as #1 population state CA votes continue to be counted.



-misinformation police

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Context ... I don't know who was buying what she was selling except "I'm not as bad as trump"

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As I said, 72,372,902 votes (48.1%).
That's who.

Update: 73,115,813 votes , 48.2%

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I do find this amusing because I made the same case in 2020 when 74.2 million people voted for Trump, but the media and many liberals where I live kept saying nobody wanted Trump. I suppose the hashtag #notmypresident will be returning then?

By the way, does no one find it odd that Harris is missing nearly 8 million votes that went to Biden in 2020? Where did those go? And oddity #2, the only states Harris won required no voter ID. Very strange indeed.

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Gosh, you must be on to something.
Biden cheated, right?

Pffft.

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Probably not worth responding since you clearly have your views, but I originally did not subscribe to the idea that 2020 was stolen. Now, seeing the numbers and results after there was a renewed focus on election integrity, I do believe the Democratic Party manipulated votes in 2020 and I imagine did so again in states where voter IDs are not required.

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Wow.
I don't know which is worse:

A) thinking 2020 election fraud happened then, because Trump said so,

Or

B) thinking, now, 2020 election fraud happened because you saw the numbers and it doesn't make sense to you.

Sterling analysis!