tequila4kapp said:

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I guess we could almost justify invading the country to capture Maduro for the purpose of bringing him to legal justice under an existing indictment. That gets us over our skis a good bit but there is precedence (Noriega). But what about this business that we will be running the country for a while and all the talk of oil? This is pretty transparently the worst of the stuff that was said about Bush and Iraq (regime change for oil) by the supposed no foreign war / no regime change President.

I am going to call this a failure by Trump. At an absolute minimum you have to spend some time communicating, explaining and presenting evidence to the US population making the case that a nation is a bad actor before you put our soldiers in harms way. If we have a vital national interest at play...explain it.

It is one thing to use the narco-terrorist rationale to blow up drug boats on their way to a shore (read: thin but...okay). But that same rational to do regime change? Ugh.

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I want to credit @willchamberlain for this point -- which I RP'd -- but add a bit of substance.

Osama Bin Laden was indicted in the SDNY first in 1998, and later in a series of Superseding Indictments between 1999 and 2001.

There was a warrant for his arrest and he was on the…

— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) January 3, 2026

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

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And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

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And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

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I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

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And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

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I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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Okay. Again, we'll see.

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It's crazy to me that you can't, at the very least, say you're happy for a group of people to be out from under the fist of a dictator. This is where your hatred for Trump has taken you.

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

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And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

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I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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Okay. Again, we'll see.

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It's crazy to me that you can't, at the very least, say you're happy for a group of people to be out from under the fist of a dictator. This is where your hatred for Trump has taken you.

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"Wait and see" is a perfectly fair position to take. I was happy that Saddam Hussein was gone too, but then . . .

I hope you see my point here.

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I'm not saying you can't wait and see but the fact you can't type the words "I'm happy for the people of Venezuela for being out from under a dictator" is very telling. This to this woman

Venezuelan woman who claims she is Trump number 1 hater, says leftists need to educate themselves and that people are happy,

"Let him do what he needs to do then we can go back to sh*ting on him okay?"pic.twitter.com/IODZ34GM8p

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) January 3, 2026

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

---

And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

---

I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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Okay. Again, we'll see.

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It's crazy to me that you can't, at the very least, say you're happy for a group of people to be out from under the fist of a dictator. This is where your hatred for Trump has taken you.

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"Wait and see" is a perfectly fair position to take. I was happy that Saddam Hussein was gone too, but then . . .

I hope you see my point here.

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I'm not saying you can't wait and see but the fact you can't type the words "I'm happy for the people of Venezuela for being out from under a dictator" is very telling. This to this woman

Venezuelan woman who claims she is Trump number 1 hater, says leftists need to educate themselves and that people are happy,

"Let him do what he needs to do then we can go back to sh*ting on him okay?"pic.twitter.com/IODZ34GM8p

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) January 3, 2026

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Same kind of dumb propaganda hoisted before the Iraqi wars, stories of babies thrown out of incubators.



There were a lot of Iraqi expats who were pleading for the US to destroy their county, these people were used to sell the war to a gullible public.

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BearlySane88 said:

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Cal88 said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

---

I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

---

Again, sounds familiar.

---

And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

---

Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

---

It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

---

Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

---

I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

---

It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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Okay. Again, we'll see.

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It's crazy to me that you can't, at the very least, say you're happy for a group of people to be out from under the fist of a dictator. This is where your hatred for Trump has taken you.

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"Wait and see" is a perfectly fair position to take. I was happy that Saddam Hussein was gone too, but then . . .

I hope you see my point here.

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I'm not saying you can't wait and see but the fact you can't type the words "I'm happy for the people of Venezuela for being out from under a dictator" is very telling. This to this woman

Venezuelan woman who claims she is Trump number 1 hater, says leftists need to educate themselves and that people are happy,

"Let him do what he needs to do then we can go back to sh*ting on him okay?"pic.twitter.com/IODZ34GM8p

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) January 3, 2026

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Same kind of dumb propaganda hoisted before the Iraqi wars, stories of babies thrown out of incubators.



There were a lot of Iraqi expats who were pleading for the US to destroy their county, these people were used to sell the war to a gullible public.

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Child please

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Trump says they call it the "Donroe Doctrine" pic.twitter.com/qzgG0IOP6H

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) January 3, 2026

sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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sycasey said:

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I thought this was the anti-war president?

Full-scale military operations appear to be underway against Venezuela, with dozens of helicopters with the U.S. Army spotted over the capital of Caracas. pic.twitter.com/kIqfbGjOK4

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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This isn't a war, don't be silly. The people of Venezuela thank us. Do you support a dictator?

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I remember people saying this about a certain guy from Iraq.

We'll see.

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So you're saying you support Maduro decimating his people and country for decades?

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Again, sounds familiar.

---

And yet you didn't answer the question. Weird.

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Because it's a silly question set up to make the answer look bad no matter what. A "when did you stop raping your wife?" kind of question. And I think you know that.

Of course Maduro sucks. But when was the last time the US forcing regime change in Latin America worked out well? How about the Middle East?

Maybe if the Trump Administration had some kind of great Marshall Plan for how they will rebuild the government after . . . hahahahaha, sorry I can't stop laughing.

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It's not a silly question, it's a very easy one to answer. I didn't ask if you support regime change. I didn't ask if you support going in and getting.

I asked if you supported him pillaging "his" people and "his" country

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No, but that's not the question here.

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Then we are on the same page. As I previously said, I don't love that Trump did this. I don't love what he's saying about running the country for now.

I can however separate the two and be EXTREMELY happy and supportive of the Venezuelan people and be grateful for our military and the incredible work they do

---

I'm going to hold off on being happy for the Venezuelan people because we don't know who is going to lead their country now. Maybe our government has some brilliant plan here, but I'm not holding my breath.

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It's very obvious you have never been to Venezuela or closely know any one of Venezuelan descent.

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Okay. Again, we'll see.

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It's crazy to me that you can't, at the very least, say you're happy for a group of people to be out from under the fist of a dictator. This is where your hatred for Trump has taken you.

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"Wait and see" is a perfectly fair position to take. I was happy that Saddam Hussein was gone too, but then . . .

I hope you see my point here.

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I'm not saying you can't wait and see but the fact you can't type the words "I'm happy for the people of Venezuela for being out from under a dictator" is very telling. This to this woman

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Uh oh, I'm insufficiently happy about Maduro being kidnapped! Are you gonna get me cancelled like the people who weren't sad about Charlie Kirk?

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My $.02? Going after leaders of countries if they start wars should be fair game (I.e. Putin shouldn't feel that he has some special right to not have his house attacked during a war)

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BearlySane88 said:

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What have I backtracked on?

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You're bringing up things that happened months ago that have 0 to do with this situation. You practice whataboutism that all of us on the right are accused of constantly

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BearlySane88 said:

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I'm not saying you can't wait and see but the fact you can't type the words "I'm happy for the people of Venezuela for being out from under a dictator" is very telling. Listen to this woman

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Keep posting these.

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— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) January 3, 2026

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sycasey said:

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What have I backtracked on?

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You're bringing up things that happened months ago that have 0 to do with this situation. You practice whataboutism that all of us on the right are accused of constantly

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That's just using past examples to bolster my point. My point remains the same. I haven't backtracked.

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Weird timing to post that since he just brought peace to Venezuelan people.

This isn't an endless war lmao. It's not even a war.

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Weird timing to post that since he just brought peace to Venezuelan people.

This isn't an endless war lmao. It's not even a war.

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Yeah. Don't pay any attention to the angry billionaire drug lords. They would never fund an endless guerilla war.

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Tell me this, you're a drug lord and just saw Trump and the US military take out Maduro with ease and efficiency. Do you:

A) say I'm gonna fight that guy
B) run for the Colombian hills
C) scream like a blue haired liberal about how congress didn't approve something they didn't need to approve

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Weird timing to post that since he just brought peace to Venezuelan people.

This isn't an endless war lmao. It's not even a war.

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Yeah. Don't pay any attention to the angry billionaire drug lords. They would never fund an endless guerilla war.

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Tell me this, you're a drug lord and just saw Trump and the US military take out Maduro with ease and efficiency. Do you:

A) say I'm gonna fight that guy
B) run for the Colombian hills
C) scream like a blue haired liberal about how congress didn't approve something they didn't need to approve

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A and B.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Weird timing to post that since he just brought peace to Venezuelan people.

This isn't an endless war lmao. It's not even a war.

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Yeah. Don't pay any attention to the angry billionaire drug lords. They would never fund an endless guerilla war.

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Tell me this, you're a drug lord and just saw Trump and the US military take out Maduro with ease and efficiency. Do you:

A) say I'm gonna fight that guy
B) run for the Colombian hills
C) scream like a blue haired liberal about how congress didn't approve something they didn't need to approve

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A and B.

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Regime change New York

Regime change Chicago

Regime change Detroit

Regime change Philly

Regime change California

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) January 3, 2026