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In reply to Cal88 • 3:04p, 4/29/26
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Literally THOUSANDS of tax dollars saved, woohoo!

Half a trillion dollars added to the military budget - ah, who cares...

Not only that. In Minnesota alone, around $250 million has been clearly identified and charged in the largest specific scheme (Feeding Our Future), with broader investigations into related Medicaid/social services fraud estimating hundreds of millions more proven or charged, and potential totals of $1 billion to over $9 billion across programs (though much of the higher figure is estimated rather than fully adjudicated).

So taking your superbloated, unverified estimate of $9 billion at face value - that's the tab of the first 5 days of the war on Iran.

Not exactly. US spending on the Iran conflict is estimated at around $25 billion so far, compared to roughly $188 billion total appropriated by the US for Ukraine-related support since Russia's 2022 invasion (with ~$127-130 billion in direct aid to Ukraine). This doesn't factor in any future financial benefits from dealing with a friendlier Iranian leadership.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 4:45p, 4/29/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


Literally THOUSANDS of tax dollars saved, woohoo!

Half a trillion dollars added to the military budget - ah, who cares...

Not only that. In Minnesota alone, around $250 million has been clearly identified and charged in the largest specific scheme (Feeding Our Future), with broader investigations into related Medicaid/social services fraud estimating hundreds of millions more proven or charged, and potential totals of $1 billion to over $9 billion across programs (though much of the higher figure is estimated rather than fully adjudicated).

So taking your superbloated, unverified estimate of $9 billion at face value - that's the tab of the first 5 days of the war on Iran.

Not exactly. US spending on the Iran conflict is estimated at around $25 billion so far, compared to roughly $188 billion total appropriated by the US for Ukraine-related support since Russia's 2022 invasion (with ~$127-130 billion in direct aid to Ukraine). This doesn't factor in any future financial benefits from dealing with a friendlier Iranian leadership.


There was over $20 billion in damage incurred to the bases and material alone through Iranian missile and drone bombing, to which you have to add the amount of ordinance used and other operational costs.

We're not getting friendlier Iranian leadership, we are getting a younger, more assertive bunch that is for example going to charge Hormuz transit tolls.
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In reply to Cal88 • 5:52p, 4/29/26
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


Literally THOUSANDS of tax dollars saved, woohoo!

Half a trillion dollars added to the military budget - ah, who cares...

Not only that. In Minnesota alone, around $250 million has been clearly identified and charged in the largest specific scheme (Feeding Our Future), with broader investigations into related Medicaid/social services fraud estimating hundreds of millions more proven or charged, and potential totals of $1 billion to over $9 billion across programs (though much of the higher figure is estimated rather than fully adjudicated).

So taking your superbloated, unverified estimate of $9 billion at face value - that's the tab of the first 5 days of the war on Iran.

Not exactly. US spending on the Iran conflict is estimated at around $25 billion so far, compared to roughly $188 billion total appropriated by the US for Ukraine-related support since Russia's 2022 invasion (with ~$127-130 billion in direct aid to Ukraine). This doesn't factor in any future financial benefits from dealing with a friendlier Iranian leadership.

There was over $20 billion in damage incurred to the bases and material alone through Iranian missile and drone bombing, to which you have to add the amount of ordinance used and other operational costs.

We're not getting friendlier Iranian leadership, we are getting a younger, more assertive bunch that is for example going to charge Hormuz transit tolls.

While no one knows what their future leadership will look like, Iran currently has no navy, and its replacement Supreme Leader is missing body parts.

Surrounding Arab nations have become friendlier to US interests thanks to Trump. Iran attacking their neighbors doesn't help their standing with them.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:17p, 4/29/26
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Cal88 said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:


Literally THOUSANDS of tax dollars saved, woohoo!

Half a trillion dollars added to the military budget - ah, who cares...

Not only that. In Minnesota alone, around $250 million has been clearly identified and charged in the largest specific scheme (Feeding Our Future), with broader investigations into related Medicaid/social services fraud estimating hundreds of millions more proven or charged, and potential totals of $1 billion to over $9 billion across programs (though much of the higher figure is estimated rather than fully adjudicated).

So taking your superbloated, unverified estimate of $9 billion at face value - that's the tab of the first 5 days of the war on Iran.

Not exactly. US spending on the Iran conflict is estimated at around $25 billion so far, compared to roughly $188 billion total appropriated by the US for Ukraine-related support since Russia's 2022 invasion (with ~$127-130 billion in direct aid to Ukraine). This doesn't factor in any future financial benefits from dealing with a friendlier Iranian leadership.

There was over $20 billion in damage incurred to the bases and material alone through Iranian missile and drone bombing, to which you have to add the amount of ordinance used and other operational costs.

We're not getting friendlier Iranian leadership, we are getting a younger, more assertive bunch that is for example going to charge Hormuz transit tolls.

While no one knows what their future leadership will look like, Iran currently has no navy, and its replacement Supreme Leader is missing body parts.

Surrounding Arab nations have become friendlier to US interests thanks to Trump. Iran attacking their neighbors doesn't help their standing with them.


Where are you getting your info and analyses on this war? Not trying to be an a55, just a bit curious.

Iran still has its flotilla of torpedo and missile-launching small boats and subs with which it can wage asymetric warfare on the Persian Gulf.

UAE is all in with the US/Israel, Qatar has flipped neutral, but the Saudis are hedging, based on the fact that Iran can destroy their oil infrastructure so they would rather things get settled. China and Russia are looking like the adults in this conversation with Trump and Bibi bent on escalation.
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In reply to Cal88 • 11:20p, 4/29/26
Which may possibly:

- end OPEC (UAE exits May 1st)
- UAE pipeline bypasses the Strait
- Iran leverage w Hormuz drops with alternate routes increasing business
- quicken our military withdrawl in Europe
- thereby easing tensions w Russia
- possibly helping to wind down the Ukraine - Russia war

No, I'm not for a $1.5 Trillion MIC budget, or even $1.2 T.
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:23a, 4/30/26

Trump is posting Q-anon content: Nothing can stop what is coming.
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11:14a, 5/1/26
They don't want anything that celebrates America, Trump, Elon, and they want to keep poll numbers down through November.

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3:08p, 5/1/26

Holy smokes!
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In reply to Cal88 • 5:51p, 5/1/26
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Iran still has its flotilla of torpedo and missile-launching small boats and subs with which it can wage asymetric warfare on the Persian Gulf.

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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:47p, 5/1/26
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Holy smokes!

Gotta put more resources in Iran probably.
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In reply to sycasey • 6:56p, 5/1/26
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Gotta put more resources in Iran probably.

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11:17p, 5/1/26
Patrick Bet David and Susan Kokinda w Promethean Action.

The Giant has awoke to London's financial control games.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1369456745015235/?mibextid=9drbnH
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1:28a, 5/2/26

Not AI.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 2:15p, 5/2/26
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Cal88 said:
Iran still has its flotilla of torpedo and missile-launching small boats and subs with which it can wage asymetric warfare on the Persian Gulf.


Wow, sounds almost like Iran's doing this on porpoise!


ta dum dum...
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 8:53p, 5/2/26
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Gotta put more resources in Iran probably.



Quickie presser today.

President Trump was questioned about pulling troops out of Germany: "we are going to cut way down, and we are cutting a lot more than the 5,000."

Sweet! Bring some home, others to Poland?

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1:02p, 5/3/26
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In reply to bearister • 1:29p, 5/3/26
Still not funny.
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In reply to movielover • 2:39p, 5/3/26
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Still not funny.

Read the comments in the Trump supporting rag, the Daily Mail, to the weekly Sunday review of the prior evening's SNL broadcast. Several hundred people make your identical comment. Real creative and imaginative and……

The Hegseth and Patel Cold Opening was funny as f@uck and everyone knows it, including you.

*…and yes, the skits are horrifically bad, but an occasional Cold Opening is very good and Weekend Update is almost always good.
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In reply to bearister • 3:15p, 5/3/26
In my youth I recall seeing snippets of Belushi and others, the Coneheads, then it fell flat. Maybe it was kept afloat by Saturday Night stoners.
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5:55p, 5/3/26

Did SNL make any Platner Nazi jokes or say anything about the SPLC?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 7:32p, 5/3/26
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Did SNL make any Platner Nazi jokes or say anything about the SPLC?

I'm gonna say that the current people in charge of government are worthier targets than a back-bencher Congresswoman and a guy who hasn't been elected to anything yet.

The constant victimhood whining from Trump fans has reached some truly ridiculous levels. Nothing is ever your guy's fault.
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In reply to sycasey • 7:41p, 5/3/26
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Did SNL make any Platner Nazi jokes or say anything about the SPLC?

I'm gonna say that the current people in charge of government are worthier targets than a back-bencher Congresswoman and a guy who hasn't been elected to anything yet.

The constant victimhood whining from Trump fans has reached some truly ridiculous levels. Nothing is ever your guy's fault.



Who are you calling a back-bencher?

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7:54p, 5/3/26

Trump publicly mentioned Osama Bin Laden and a terrorist attack, a year and half before 9-11.
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In reply to movielover • 3:26a, 5/4/26
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In my youth I recall seeing snippets of Belushi and others, the Coneheads, then it fell flat. Maybe it was kept afloat by Saturday Night stoners.
oh boy, this explains a lot
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 4:29a, 5/4/26
Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock were so long ago, as was Dana Carvey.
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12:09p, 5/4/26

Suspected Medicare fraud exceeding $600 million.

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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 1:30p, 5/4/26
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Suspected Medicare fraud exceeding $600 million.



Imagine how rampant the fraud is. We're the piggybank for criminals everywhere. When low trust criminals enter high trust areas (Minnesota).
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In reply to movielover • 1:59p, 5/4/26
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till not funny.

But you have to admire Colin Jost's amazing ability to take anything and make it not funny. Then he can't keep a straight face, perhaps because he is being ironic. This is what a Harvard education can do for people!
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In reply to movielover • 5:53p, 5/4/26
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Suspected Medicare fraud exceeding $600 million.

Imagine how rampant the fraud is. We're the piggybank for criminals everywhere. When low trust criminals enter high trust areas (Minnesota).


1,500% increase in hospice companies since 2010, far exceeding national growth relative to the elderly population and coincides with documented clustering in single buildings or small areas.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:56p, 5/4/26
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movielover said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Suspected Medicare fraud exceeding $600 million.

Imagine how rampant the fraud is. We're the piggybank for criminals everywhere. When low trust criminals enter high trust areas (Minnesota).


1,500% increase in hospice companies since 2010, far exceeding national growth relative to the elderly population and coincides with documented clustering in single buildings or small areas.


Beach Boys should write a song about this but they are probably in hospice
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 6:14p, 5/4/26
The Little Old Lady From Pasadena?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:28p, 5/4/26
Nick Shirley seemed to blow this area up, but Dr. Oz claims what tipped them off was elderly, infirm individuals... who seem to never die!
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 6:41p, 5/4/26
Anarchistbear said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
movielover said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Suspected Medicare fraud exceeding $600 million.

Imagine how rampant the fraud is. We're the piggybank for criminals everywhere. When low trust criminals enter high trust areas (Minnesota).


1,500% increase in hospice companies since 2010, far exceeding national growth relative to the elderly population and coincides with documented clustering in single buildings or small areas.

Beach Boys should write a song about this but they are probably in hospice

Let's wait awhile to see if any patients complained after the doors were locked.
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